Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[alex.harmuth]

Here's another thing to think about. The Summerians created writing. So put yourself in their shoes, if you just created writing, what would you write about?

I contend they wrote about their history, who they are where they came from. Their writing is almost exactly like the story of creation. They wrote that a God made a man and woman from dust, placed them in a garden, the woman was tricked by a serpent, they left the garden, there was a global flood (the sumerian deluge), 1 man built an ark and survived it, there are even mentions of people from the Bible, etc.... Note their history didn't say that old uncle Jerry was a cave man who evolved from a tadpole.

Sure maybe some elements aren't exactly the same, as several hundred years would have passed between Adam and Eve and the invention of writing. But if multiple historical texts verify a story, logically, doesn't that make the story more credible?

There are ZERO historical texts that mention anything about evolution. ZERO mentions of how man thought monkeys look similar and we came from monkeys. ZERO writings of discoveries of old humanoid skeletons with all the digging and building ancient people did. Meanwhile nearly every ancient religion has a story similar to the Garden of Eden. Now which belief seems to be more corroborated?

And your wrong again by the way. I considered myself an atheist until around 18.

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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Both beliefs fail to simply use their own eyes and common sense.

How absurd....

 

[james bond]

DNA is biology, not statistics.

Let's stay on biology since it was brought up. What Darwin, whom we get the idea that humans came from apes, claimed was humans in Africa came from apes. Not only is that racist today, one cannot get a white person from a black person. One cannot get a white blue eyed caucasian. However, one can get that from a Middile Eastern (Aramaean) or Jews race.

What is racist in pointing out that all humans- of all colors- and the apes of Africa- are descended from a common ancestor?

You go to Africa and tell a black person that his ancestor is an ape.

Furthermore, you still haven't explained how ape-humans evolved from a single cell. You have not explained anything from prehistoric humans. Give us the 60-second rundown. The infograph is in the link below.

Template:Life timeline - Wikipedia

 

[james bond]

Thus, we know humans did not come from apes. Too much evidence against it

Please share some...

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

Did you say “lived hundreds of years”?

Have you read the Bible? It's the world's best selling non-fiction book. In its history, Adam and Eve's and their descendants lived hundreds of years.

Did people really live hundreds of years according to Genesis? | CARM.org

 

[james bond]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

"Are" not allowed.

This is why atheists are usually wrong. Atheist science believes the universe started from nothing and that there are multiverses. They are bat sh*t looney. They also believe in the racist theory that humans in Africa came from apes.

Answer me this... Is the Earth round or flat?

Is it a ball or a pancake? I think it's a pancake! I don't care about the scientist bullshit. It's obviously flat. Besides all the shit we disagree on, I think we may finally agree on something, dang... I'm interested in your view on this

I lost track since yesterday of where we were, so sorry if this is a repeat.

I'm afraid that we're still disagreeing .

The earth is a sphere floating in space. That's from the Bible. Do you want proof?

Even in those days, people used the stars for navigation.

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Today, I realized that I've known you for years on this forum, but never invited you. Today, we talked about inviting at church..

Even if you believe you evolved from an ape, would you consider inviting Christ into your life? That you are a sinner and that he died to save you from your sins.

Believing you're related to monkeys is probably not a sin unless you go too far.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,1 and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." Acts 1

Jesus is in my life. I try to live my life the way Jesus would, in the ideal, whether he existed or not. I just don't accept the religions that use that ideal (or others) to inflict harm upon others.

>>RWS: Jesus is in my life. I try to live my life the way Jesus would, in the ideal, whether he existed or not. I just don't accept the religions that use that ideal (or others) to inflict harm upon others.<<

Don't play like that. You'll BIH forever.

Jesus stands before everyone and everything like gravity. He is like the container that holds our universe. Atheist scientists think gravity is the weakest force since a magnet can overcome the pull of the earth. However, when you factor in distance, it is the strongest force. You cannot escape wherever you are in this universe. You cannot build an anti-gravity chamber to escape. So do not do this ever again.

 

[RWS]

Here's another thing to think about. The Summerians created writing. So put yourself in their shoes, if you just created writing, what would you write about?

I contend they wrote about their history, who they are where they came from. Their writing is almost exactly like the story of creation. They wrote that a God made a man and woman from dust, placed them in a garden, the woman was tricked by a serpent, they left the garden, there was a global flood (the sumerian deluge), 1 man built an ark and survived it, there are even mentions of people from the Bible, etc.... Note their history didn't say that old uncle Jerry was a cave man who evolved from a tadpole.

Sure maybe some elements aren't exactly the same, as several hundred years would have passed between Adam and Eve and the invention of writing. But if multiple historical texts verify a story, logically, doesn't that make the story more credible?

There are ZERO historical texts that mention anything about evolution. ZERO mentions of how man thought monkeys look similar and we came from monkeys. ZERO writings of discoveries of old humanoid skeletons with all the digging and building ancient people did. Meanwhile nearly every ancient religion has a story similar to the Garden of Eden. Now which belief seems to be more corroborated?

And your wrong again by the way. I considered myself an atheist until around 18.

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The Sumerians did write about their history, and how they were created by the Anunnaki, and were taught everything they know by the Anunnaki. They were never trying to dig up bones and figure out the rest.

The biblical story of creation (and many others as you mentioned) is plagiarized from Sumerian and Babylonian texts up to 2000 years before the OT. Enki is the serpent btw (but he's actually the good guy that created and protected us).

The people back then had no idea about evolution, or what it meant. And it went that way for a few thousand years. Until some people started noticing physical traits that got passed on during experiments. As opposed to religious traits that get passed on regardless of experimentation, and demand you believe in that belief regardless of logic, common sense, and morals.

Evolution took a long time to get accepted, because of the religious fervor that it created. So did the round earth. And so did the idea that the earth revolves around the sun.

One of the last things you are left with is evolution. And the biblical creation theory, copies the Sumerian creation myth. And they were writing about aliens...

 

[sealybobo]

Here's another thing to think about. The Summerians created writing. So put yourself in their shoes, if you just created writing, what would you write about?

I contend they wrote about their history, who they are where they came from. Their writing is almost exactly like the story of creation. They wrote that a God made a man and woman from dust, placed them in a garden, the woman was tricked by a serpent, they left the garden, there was a global flood (the sumerian deluge), 1 man built an ark and survived it, there are even mentions of people from the Bible, etc.... Note their history didn't say that old uncle Jerry was a cave man who evolved from a tadpole.

Sure maybe some elements aren't exactly the same, as several hundred years would have passed between Adam and Eve and the invention of writing. But if multiple historical texts verify a story, logically, doesn't that make the story more credible?

There are ZERO historical texts that mention anything about evolution. ZERO mentions of how man thought monkeys look similar and we came from monkeys. ZERO writings of discoveries of old humanoid skeletons with all the digging and building ancient people did. Meanwhile nearly every ancient religion has a story similar to the Garden of Eden. Now which belief seems to be more corroborated?

And your wrong again by the way. I considered myself an atheist until around 18.

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No. The fact that several different societies have the same stories don’t add credibility to the story. One made it up and the others took it as their own.

Those goat herders couldn’t have imagined evolution. They even thought the earth was still and the stars revolved around us. We were special they thought. Not just the most advanced and intelligent animal on the planet.

 

[alex.harmuth]

If evolution were true, I'd imagine life would be abundant in not just the universe, but in this solar system. There should be life on Mars, Venus, moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Life should be everywhere... But it's not.

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[alex.harmuth]

Yeah and we evolved from fish is logical.

Both beliefs fail to simply use their own eyes and common sense.

How absurd....

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[dannyboys]

Look at who was in the Whitehouse before President Trump for eight years.
Your question will be answered.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

evolution were true, I'd imagine life would be abundant in not just the universe, but in this solar system. There should be life on Mars, Venus, moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Life should be everywhere... But it's not.

None of this makes a lick of sense. Abiogenesis is the term you are looking for, not evolution.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah and we evolved from fish is logical.

It absolutely is,in every single way. And we can so.y look at the fossil record and watch it happen. The evidence is overwhelming and is all mutually supportive.

Considering all of this, and considering the fact that there is no longer any scientific debate about the truth of evolution, have you ever paused to wonder that, oh just maybe, it doesn't "make sense" to you only because you know less than nothing about it?

 

[Votto]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

Not true.

That's a heckuva lotta videos to watch... Could you please provide a point, and then use them as reference? I mean, I can also give you a million videos explaining evolution without a comment.

Maybe your genesis theory is based on ancient aliens... hmm? That's much more believable.....

The videos are not that long.'

Essentially he back tracks to ancient rabbinical texts that seem to suggest that the translation of the original Hebrew version of Genesis implies that the Earth is much older than thousands of years. For example, the terms day and night during the first 7 days can be translated chaos and order instead of literal day and night, according to the expert rabbis. Keep in mind, this was pre-modern science, so they had not benefit in trying to change the young earth theory into an old earth theory in order to fit what we know about science today.

He then goes on his own theory regarding the passage of time. As we know, time is not constant, it varies according to where you are in the universe, so immediately after the Big Bang, time varied greatly than what is it today. To make a long story short, he comes up with the theory that for each day time halves. This means that the first day was 8 billion years, the second day 4 billion years, etc. If you use his time clock, the evolutionary scale matches the Biblical scale.

 

[Syriusly]

DNA is biology, not statistics.

Let's stay on biology since it was brought up. What Darwin, whom we get the idea that humans came from apes, claimed was humans in Africa came from apes. Not only is that racist today, one cannot get a white person from a black person. One cannot get a white blue eyed caucasian. However, one can get that from a Middile Eastern (Aramaean) or Jews race.

What is racist in pointing out that all humans- of all colors- and the apes of Africa- are descended from a common ancestor?

You go to Africa and tell a black person that his ancestor is an ape.

Still waiting for an answer:

What is racist in pointing out that all humans- of all colors- and the apes of Africa- are descended from a common ancestor?

 

[Syriusly]

If evolution were true, I'd imagine life would be abundant in not just the universe, but in this solar system. There should be life on Mars, Venus, moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Life should be everywhere... But it's not.

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Why anyone thinks that life would 'be everywhere' because of evolution is a mystery to me.

There is nothing in the theory of evolution that makes that claim.

 

[Syriusly]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

"Are" not allowed.

This is why atheists are usually wrong. Atheist science believes the universe started from nothing and that there are multiverses. They are bat sh*t looney. They also believe in the racist theory that humans in Africa came from apes.

Answer me this... Is the Earth round or flat?

Is it a ball or a pancake? I think it's a pancake! I don't care about the scientist bullshit. It's obviously flat. Besides all the shit we disagree on, I think we may finally agree on something, dang... I'm interested in your view on this

I lost track since yesterday of where we were, so sorry if this is a repeat.

I'm afraid that we're still disagreeing .

The earth is a sphere floating in space. That's from the Bible. Do you want proof?

Even in those days, people used the stars for navigation.

++++++++

Today, I realized that I've known you for years on this forum, but never invited you. Today, we talked about inviting at church..

Even if you believe you evolved from an ape, would you consider inviting Christ into your life? That you are a sinner and that he died to save you from your sins.

Believing you're related to monkeys is probably not a sin unless you go too far.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,1 and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." Acts 1

Jesus is in my life. I try to live my life the way Jesus would, in the ideal, whether he existed or not. I just don't accept the religions that use that ideal (or others) to inflict harm upon others.

>>RWS: Jesus is in my life. I try to live my life the way Jesus would, in the ideal, whether he existed or not. I just don't accept the religions that use that ideal (or others) to inflict harm upon others.<<

Don't play like that. You'll BIH forever.

Jesus stands before everyone and everything like gravity. .

Except we can measure gravity.

We can't measure 'Jesus'.

 

[Syriusly]

Please share some...

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

Did you say “lived hundreds of years”?

Have you read the Bible? It's the world's best selling non-fiction book. In its history, Adam and Eve's and their descendants lived hundreds of years.

Did people really live hundreds of years according to Genesis? | CARM.org[/QUOTE

Still waiting for something authoritative to substantiate that people ever lived for hundreds of years.

Still waiting.......still waiting......

Still waiting for something authoritative to substantiate that people ever lived for hundreds of years.

Still waiting.......still waiting.

 

[Syriusly]

Look at a tree, you know it's a tree. You don't need to do math or use DNA to prove it's a tree. Why?.... Because it's a tree. Now apply this to the Earth and to monkeys vs human beings.

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So when you see a tree- you know it has always been a tree- and was always a tree.....and was never a seed?

Now apply this to the Earth and the theory of evolution.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

"Are" not allowed.

This is why atheists are usually wrong. Atheist science believes the universe started from nothing and that there are multiverses. They are bat sh*t looney. They also believe in the racist theory that humans in Africa came from apes.

Except that its religion that believes it all came from nothing.

If you're talking about christianity, they believe their god waved his hand around for six days and then rested. I'm no bible scholar but I don't know of any place (except the idiotic Adam's rib stuff, where it says their god used some sort of raw material.

I've never heard of any belief that "humans in Africa came from apes". Perhaps you might want to familiarize yourself with evolution.

And for Pete's sake, get a different, more accurate name!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Look at a tree, you know it's a tree. You don't need to do math or use DNA to prove it's a tree. Why?.... Because it's a tree. Now apply this to the Earth and to monkeys vs human beings.

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So when you see a tree- you know it has always been a tree- and was always a tree.....and was never a seed?

Now apply this to the Earth and the theory of evolution.

Exactly.

And then ...

Are palms trees? Or maybe large, woody herbs?

Flat-Earthers Have a Wild New Theory About Forests - The Atlantic