Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[Syriusly]

Please share some...

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

 

[alang1216]

First, we established that you haven't read the Bible much so I wouldn't insult God saying it contains errors and contradictions. Nor do you understand how it was put together or how to approach reading it. You'll pay for it in the end.

We have established no such thing. In fact, I'd put my knowledge of the Bible up against yours any day.

Yes, God has spoken to me like teachers, scientists and other authority. After reading the Bible, I've come to the conclusion it is indeed God's Word. Otherwise, it would have been contradicted long ago. God's Word cannot change, but we know science texts change yearly.

The Bible has been 'contradicted' from day one and yes, God's Word has changed. Do you eat pork or wear different fabrics together?

 

[danielpalos]

Science is not in the business of facts nor proofs, but theories. Science deals with facts and comes up with an explanation. It starts with hypothesis and if enough science people accept it, then it becomes a theory

You're all over the place:

Science is not in the business of facts
and
Science deals with facts​

Science deals with observed facts. Theories are hypothesized that fit these facts. The theory is accepted so long as no new facts contradict the theory. Theories with an enormous amount of facts behind them are accepted as truths.

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There is almost nothing here that makes sense. What are 'ancient humans' and 'prehistoric humans'?

Have you read the Bible at all? I invite you to read the part about Adam and Eve and their ancestors.

I have read the Bible and I can tell you there are no 'ancient humans' or 'prehistoric humans' anywhere in it.

K, since you've read it. Let's start after Adam and Eve. One of their sons was Cain and he was a farmer. He had tools and knew how to use them. So, he ends up killing his brother the shepard. A bit later we get to the begots. These people during that time knew how to use fire, make tools, forge iron, make helmets with horns on them, make weapons, make musical instruments etc. In Genesis 7, we got Noah who built a huge Ark by himself. So, it never occurred to you that these people were more advanced than your prehistoric humans?

I said I read it, I didn't say I accepted it as historically accurate. So I take it that the 'ancient humans' are in the Bible but the 'prehistoric humans' are not? Were the 'prehistoric humans' the Neanderthals and other hominids known from the fossil record?

You have no plausible explanation to explain the water on Earth.

An Ice Age would seem like a flood, to the uneducated mind.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Please share some...

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows? First day, I get a penny. Second day, two pennies. You double my pennies every day for thirty days and that's what you'll end up owing me. At the end of 30 days, I'll return 50% of what you owe me and call it square.

Who taught this idea in regards to population growth? How can you apply it to Adam and Eve?

Just make your point, so I can destroy it.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

We aren't descendants of "monkey's." We are however, descendants of "primates."
DNA doesn't lie and we share 99% of the same DNA with chimpanzees. If you refuse to recognize the DNA similarity, then any crime committed against your family in which DNA was left behind, should be denied by you as not belonging to a specific individual.

That's just statistics being used to back your theory. Mark Twain said, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." No court in the world will convict anyone based on DNA evidence alone.

I have the statistics that 35 million molecules are different from apes and humans. Of those 35 million, 5 million molecules are structured differently in the DNA.

DNA is biology, not statistics.
Clearly you are one of those who believe in invisible deities. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Hebrew priests as a primitive way to explain what they had no real answer for, a way to control behavior without a way to contradict them (the creation of an invisible being that can see all, knows all, can do all and can watch everyone's move and action so as to judge them when they die), thus feeding into their primitive and superstitious mentality.
If you have some unflinching belief that every word in that inane book is true, then I challenge you to do what Mark says in MK 16: 17-18. "Believers can handle snakes (I'm sure he means venomous snakes) and drink poison and will not experience harm. Have your Will in order first.

 

[danielpalos]

evolution happens.

what if,

we are merely in Nexus 6, with Zardoz and the incorrigibles?

 

[james bond]

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

I'm trying to give you a thought experiment in order to provide evidence through population. Creation started with Adam and Eve. How did evolution's human population start? How many ape-humans were there?

You pay me a penny the first day. 2 pennies the second and keep doubling my salary for 30 days. This is what you would pay.

Day 1 $0.01
Day 2 $0.02
Day 3 $0.04
Day 4 $0.08
Day 5 $0.16
Day 6 $0.32
Day 7 $0.64
Day 8 $1.28
Day 9 $2.56
Day 10 $5.12
Day 11 $10.24
Day 12 $20.48
Day 13 $40.96
Day 14 $81.92
Day 15 $163.84
Day 16 $327.68
Day 17 $655.36
Day 18 $1,310.72
Day 19 $2,621.44
Day 20 $5,242.88
Day 21 $10,485.76
Day 22 $20,971.52
Day 23 $41,943.04
Day 24 $83,886.08
Day 25 $167,772.16
Day 26 $335,544.32
Day 27 $671,088.64
Day 28 $1,342,177.28
Day 29 $2,684,354.56
Day 30 $5,368,709.12
Day 31 $10,737,418.24

In 30 days, you would owe me over $5 million. This shows the power of doubling.

Thomas Malthus explained how two people could have populated a planet. He "published in 1798, was An Essay on the Principle of Population as it affects the Future Improvement of Society. In it, Malthus raised doubts about whether a nation could ever reach a point where laws would no longer be required, and in which everyone lived prosperously and harmoniously. There was, he argued, a built-in agony to human existence, in that the growth of a population will always outrun its ability to feed itself. If every couple raised four children, the population could easily double in twenty-five years, and from then on, it would keep doubling. It would rise not arithmetically—by factors of three, four, five, and so on—but geometrically—by factors of four, eight, and sixteen."

The Ecology of Human Populations: Thomas Malthus

Today's population of 7.6 billion people backs a doubling of the population from Adam and Eve's time of around 6,000 years. Evolution puts it around 200,000 years ago and that does not back a population of 7.6 billion. It should be much higher. What happened?

Billions of People in Thousands of Years?

 

[james bond]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

We aren't descendants of "monkey's." We are however, descendants of "primates."
DNA doesn't lie and we share 99% of the same DNA with chimpanzees. If you refuse to recognize the DNA similarity, then any crime committed against your family in which DNA was left behind, should be denied by you as not belonging to a specific individual.

That's just statistics being used to back your theory. Mark Twain said, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." No court in the world will convict anyone based on DNA evidence alone.

I have the statistics that 35 million molecules are different from apes and humans. Of those 35 million, 5 million molecules are structured differently in the DNA.

DNA is biology, not statistics.
Clearly you are one of those who believe in invisible deities. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Hebrew priests as a primitive way to explain what they had no real answer for, a way to control behavior without a way to contradict them (the creation of an invisible being that can see all, knows all, can do all and can watch everyone's move and action so as to judge them when they die), thus feeding into their primitive and superstitious mentality.
If you have some unflinching belief that every word in that inane book is true, then I challenge you to do what Mark says in MK 16: 17-18. "Believers can handle snakes (I'm sure he means venomous snakes) and drink poison and will not experience harm. Have your Will in order first.

It's statistics the way you are using it as argument to show apes and humans are related. If it's biology, then why are there apes and humans and no ape-humans today? Apes and humans have been interbred in forbidden experiments and their offspring does not live beyond one generation.

 

[james bond]

Science is not in the business of facts nor proofs, but theories. Science deals with facts and comes up with an explanation. It starts with hypothesis and if enough science people accept it, then it becomes a theory

You're all over the place:

Science is not in the business of facts
and
Science deals with facts​

Science deals with observed facts. Theories are hypothesized that fit these facts. The theory is accepted so long as no new facts contradict the theory. Theories with an enormous amount of facts behind them are accepted as truths.

Have you read the Bible at all? I invite you to read the part about Adam and Eve and their ancestors.

I have read the Bible and I can tell you there are no 'ancient humans' or 'prehistoric humans' anywhere in it.

K, since you've read it. Let's start after Adam and Eve. One of their sons was Cain and he was a farmer. He had tools and knew how to use them. So, he ends up killing his brother the shepard. A bit later we get to the begots. These people during that time knew how to use fire, make tools, forge iron, make helmets with horns on them, make weapons, make musical instruments etc. In Genesis 7, we got Noah who built a huge Ark by himself. So, it never occurred to you that these people were more advanced than your prehistoric humans?

I said I read it, I didn't say I accepted it as historically accurate. So I take it that the 'ancient humans' are in the Bible but the 'prehistoric humans' are not? Were the 'prehistoric humans' the Neanderthals and other hominids known from the fossil record?

You have no plausible explanation to explain the water on Earth.

An Ice Age would seem like a flood, to the uneducated mind.

You're the one who is uneducated and full of shyt.

Otherwise, explain where are all the ape-human fossils? Furthermore, Is there enough prehistoric human fossils to fit the population from 200,000 years ago? There should be a high numbers.

 

[cnm]

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood.

Gods. I see you can't even work out what prehistoric means.

 

[james bond]

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood.

Gods. I see you can't even work out what prehistoric means.

You do provide evidence that you're related to a dumb ape. How well can you swing through trees and eat bananas lol?

 

[LuckyDuck]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

We aren't descendants of "monkey's." We are however, descendants of "primates."
DNA doesn't lie and we share 99% of the same DNA with chimpanzees. If you refuse to recognize the DNA similarity, then any crime committed against your family in which DNA was left behind, should be denied by you as not belonging to a specific individual.

That's just statistics being used to back your theory. Mark Twain said, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." No court in the world will convict anyone based on DNA evidence alone.

I have the statistics that 35 million molecules are different from apes and humans. Of those 35 million, 5 million molecules are structured differently in the DNA.

DNA is biology, not statistics.
Clearly you are one of those who believe in invisible deities. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Hebrew priests as a primitive way to explain what they had no real answer for, a way to control behavior without a way to contradict them (the creation of an invisible being that can see all, knows all, can do all and can watch everyone's move and action so as to judge them when they die), thus feeding into their primitive and superstitious mentality.
If you have some unflinching belief that every word in that inane book is true, then I challenge you to do what Mark says in MK 16: 17-18. "Believers can handle snakes (I'm sure he means venomous snakes) and drink poison and will not experience harm. Have your Will in order first.

It's statistics the way you are using it as argument to show apes and humans are related. If it's biology, then why are there apes and humans and no ape-humans today? Apes and humans have been interbred in forbidden experiments and their offspring does not live beyond one generation.

Our ancestors were a form of primate and chimpanzees share many DNA similarities, however, that 1% difference is because we may be primates, but we are not in their direct family. Way back, all primates shared a similar ancestor. The picture of a tree to represent family trees and evolutional trees is a good one. The great apes are a branch on that tree, lesser primates such as howler monkeys, et cetera, are another branch. We are from "hominids." Our "European" DNA is a combination of Neanderthal and other hominid types. The fact that chimpanzees share 99% of human DNA only reflects that they were close on the evolutionary tree, but that crucial 1% is what differentiated us from them, otherwise we'd be still swinging from trees.
Like I said in my last input, if you believe that every word in that silly superstitious book called the bible, is true, then go ahead and do what Mark said in MK 16: 17-18 and you'll be just fine.

 

[cnm]

How well can you swing through trees and eat bananas lol?

As well as I can tell ancient humans were prehistoric. I assume you can do neither.

 

[Syriusly]

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

I'm trying to give you a thought experiment in order to provide evidence through population.

And I am still pointing out that you have no evidence to back up your claim

So again:
Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim

 

[Syriusly]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

We aren't descendants of "monkey's." We are however, descendants of "primates."
DNA doesn't lie and we share 99% of the same DNA with chimpanzees. If you refuse to recognize the DNA similarity, then any crime committed against your family in which DNA was left behind, should be denied by you as not belonging to a specific individual.

That's just statistics being used to back your theory. Mark Twain said, "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." No court in the world will convict anyone based on DNA evidence alone.

I have the statistics that 35 million molecules are different from apes and humans. Of those 35 million, 5 million molecules are structured differently in the DNA.

DNA is biology, not statistics.
Clearly you are one of those who believe in invisible deities. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Hebrew priests as a primitive way to explain what they had no real answer for, a way to control behavior without a way to contradict them (the creation of an invisible being that can see all, knows all, can do all and can watch everyone's move and action so as to judge them when they die), thus feeding into their primitive and superstitious mentality.
If you have some unflinching belief that every word in that inane book is true, then I challenge you to do what Mark says in MK 16: 17-18. "Believers can handle snakes (I'm sure he means venomous snakes) and drink poison and will not experience harm. Have your Will in order first.

It's statistics the way you are using it as argument to show apes and humans are related. If it's biology, then why are there apes and humans and no ape-humans today? Apes and humans have been interbred in forbidden experiments and their offspring does not live beyond one generation.

Sigh.

There are no ape humans because we are different species.

There have been no offspring of modern apes and humans- at all.

If you actually understood the theory of evolution- as you claim to- you would know exactly why there are no crossbred ape-humans today.

That you ask the question just displays your ignorance of the science behind evolution.

 

[Syriusly]

You're all over the place:

Science is not in the business of facts
and
Science deals with facts​

Science deals with observed facts. Theories are hypothesized that fit these facts. The theory is accepted so long as no new facts contradict the theory. Theories with an enormous amount of facts behind them are accepted as truths.

I have read the Bible and I can tell you there are no 'ancient humans' or 'prehistoric humans' anywhere in it.

K, since you've read it. Let's start after Adam and Eve. One of their sons was Cain and he was a farmer. He had tools and knew how to use them. So, he ends up killing his brother the shepard. A bit later we get to the begots. These people during that time knew how to use fire, make tools, forge iron, make helmets with horns on them, make weapons, make musical instruments etc. In Genesis 7, we got Noah who built a huge Ark by himself. So, it never occurred to you that these people were more advanced than your prehistoric humans?

I said I read it, I didn't say I accepted it as historically accurate. So I take it that the 'ancient humans' are in the Bible but the 'prehistoric humans' are not? Were the 'prehistoric humans' the Neanderthals and other hominids known from the fossil record?

You have no plausible explanation to explain the water on Earth.

An Ice Age would seem like a flood, to the uneducated mind.

You're the one who is uneducated and full of shyt.

Otherwise, explain where are all the ape-human fossils? Furthermore, Is there enough prehistoric human fossils to fit the population from 200,000 years ago? There should be a high numbers.

Who says there should be higher numbers of prehistoric human fossils?

Hell where are the fossils of Adam and Eve? There should be fossils of Adam and Eve!

LOL

 

[MaryL]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

No...But Evolution, yes. Cats did't evolve from dogs. Seals? Whiskers...Perhaps if you are interested, actually read about the issue instead of...THIS nonsense.

 

[NoNukes]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

I think many people on these boards prove this fact, but I may be insulting monkeys.

 

[james bond]

DNA is biology, not statistics.

Let's stay on biology since it was brought up. What Darwin, whom we get the idea that humans came from apes, claimed was humans in Africa came from apes. Not only is that racist today, one cannot get a white person from a black person. One cannot get a white blue eyed caucasian. However, one can get that from a Middile Eastern (Aramaean) or Jews race.

 

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