Do You Believe We Came From Monkeys?

[james bond]

How well can you swing through trees and eat bananas lol?

As well as I can tell ancient humans were prehistoric. I assume you can do neither.

And you can't tell prehistoric humans? WTF is wrong with your evolution?

Largest prehistoric animals - Wikipedia

I can swing through trees using a vine or rope. But I can't eat a banana like this --

with seeds. You can eat that shat.

Besides, you don't even know what the prehistoric apes did.

 

[james bond]

There are no ape humans because we are different species.

Now, you're getting it through your bag of rocks head. I think ha ha.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

I'm trying to give you a thought experiment in order to provide evidence through population. Creation started with Adam and Eve. How did evolution's human population start? How many ape-humans were there?

You pay me a penny the first day. 2 pennies the second and keep doubling my salary for 30 days. This is what you would pay.

Day 1 $0.01
Day 2 $0.02
Day 3 $0.04
Day 4 $0.08
Day 5 $0.16
Day 6 $0.32
Day 7 $0.64
Day 8 $1.28
Day 9 $2.56
Day 10 $5.12
Day 11 $10.24
Day 12 $20.48
Day 13 $40.96
Day 14 $81.92
Day 15 $163.84
Day 16 $327.68
Day 17 $655.36
Day 18 $1,310.72
Day 19 $2,621.44
Day 20 $5,242.88
Day 21 $10,485.76
Day 22 $20,971.52
Day 23 $41,943.04
Day 24 $83,886.08
Day 25 $167,772.16
Day 26 $335,544.32
Day 27 $671,088.64
Day 28 $1,342,177.28
Day 29 $2,684,354.56
Day 30 $5,368,709.12
Day 31 $10,737,418.24

In 30 days, you would owe me over $5 million. This shows the power of doubling.

Thomas Malthus explained how two people could have populated a planet. He "published in 1798, was An Essay on the Principle of Population as it affects the Future Improvement of Society. In it, Malthus raised doubts about whether a nation could ever reach a point where laws would no longer be required, and in which everyone lived prosperously and harmoniously. There was, he argued, a built-in agony to human existence, in that the growth of a population will always outrun its ability to feed itself. If every couple raised four children, the population could easily double in twenty-five years, and from then on, it would keep doubling. It would rise not arithmetically—by factors of three, four, five, and so on—but geometrically—by factors of four, eight, and sixteen."

The Ecology of Human Populations: Thomas Malthus

Today's population of 7.6 billion people backs a doubling of the population from Adam and Eve's time of around 6,000 years. Evolution puts it around 200,000 years ago and that does not back a population of 7.6 billion. It should be much higher. What happened?

Billions of People in Thousands of Years?

What a ridiculous, simple minded pile of utter nonsense. For one, it is demonstrably false, using mitochondrial DNA studies. Furthermore, it can and should be rejected prima facie due to the absolute fantasy in the idea of a tiny, inbreeding population increasing so quickly and both sustaining itself and spreading across the globe. Just utter, ridiculous nonsense meant for gullible, religious nutballs .


I mean...seriously, you are an insufferable moron. How dare an uneducated slob like you call the scientists of the world liars and incompetents. If I had my way, I would parade you around on television and around Universities so you could soak up the ridicule you so richly deserve.

 

[danielpalos]

You're all over the place:

Science is not in the business of facts
and
Science deals with facts​

Science deals with observed facts. Theories are hypothesized that fit these facts. The theory is accepted so long as no new facts contradict the theory. Theories with an enormous amount of facts behind them are accepted as truths.

I have read the Bible and I can tell you there are no 'ancient humans' or 'prehistoric humans' anywhere in it.

K, since you've read it. Let's start after Adam and Eve. One of their sons was Cain and he was a farmer. He had tools and knew how to use them. So, he ends up killing his brother the shepard. A bit later we get to the begots. These people during that time knew how to use fire, make tools, forge iron, make helmets with horns on them, make weapons, make musical instruments etc. In Genesis 7, we got Noah who built a huge Ark by himself. So, it never occurred to you that these people were more advanced than your prehistoric humans?

I said I read it, I didn't say I accepted it as historically accurate. So I take it that the 'ancient humans' are in the Bible but the 'prehistoric humans' are not? Were the 'prehistoric humans' the Neanderthals and other hominids known from the fossil record?

You have no plausible explanation to explain the water on Earth.

An Ice Age would seem like a flood, to the uneducated mind.

You're the one who is uneducated and full of shyt.

Otherwise, explain where are all the ape-human fossils? Furthermore, Is there enough prehistoric human fossils to fit the population from 200,000 years ago? There should be a high numbers.

an ice age would account for any flood stories.

We have more than Ten simple Commandments from a God; only loyal subjects of the Animal Kingdom, do that.

 

[MaryL]

We didn't come from the Monkeys, we came from the Beatles.

 

[james bond]

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

I'm trying to give you a thought experiment in order to provide evidence through population. Creation started with Adam and Eve. How did evolution's human population start? How many ape-humans were there?

You pay me a penny the first day. 2 pennies the second and keep doubling my salary for 30 days. This is what you would pay.

Day 1 $0.01
Day 2 $0.02
Day 3 $0.04
Day 4 $0.08
Day 5 $0.16
Day 6 $0.32
Day 7 $0.64
Day 8 $1.28
Day 9 $2.56
Day 10 $5.12
Day 11 $10.24
Day 12 $20.48
Day 13 $40.96
Day 14 $81.92
Day 15 $163.84
Day 16 $327.68
Day 17 $655.36
Day 18 $1,310.72
Day 19 $2,621.44
Day 20 $5,242.88
Day 21 $10,485.76
Day 22 $20,971.52
Day 23 $41,943.04
Day 24 $83,886.08
Day 25 $167,772.16
Day 26 $335,544.32
Day 27 $671,088.64
Day 28 $1,342,177.28
Day 29 $2,684,354.56
Day 30 $5,368,709.12
Day 31 $10,737,418.24

In 30 days, you would owe me over $5 million. This shows the power of doubling.

Thomas Malthus explained how two people could have populated a planet. He "published in 1798, was An Essay on the Principle of Population as it affects the Future Improvement of Society. In it, Malthus raised doubts about whether a nation could ever reach a point where laws would no longer be required, and in which everyone lived prosperously and harmoniously. There was, he argued, a built-in agony to human existence, in that the growth of a population will always outrun its ability to feed itself. If every couple raised four children, the population could easily double in twenty-five years, and from then on, it would keep doubling. It would rise not arithmetically—by factors of three, four, five, and so on—but geometrically—by factors of four, eight, and sixteen."

The Ecology of Human Populations: Thomas Malthus

Today's population of 7.6 billion people backs a doubling of the population from Adam and Eve's time of around 6,000 years. Evolution puts it around 200,000 years ago and that does not back a population of 7.6 billion. It should be much higher. What happened?

Billions of People in Thousands of Years?

What a ridiculous, simple minded pile of utter nonsense. For one, it is demonstrably false, using mitochondrial DNA studies. Furthermore, it can and should be rejected prima facie due to the absolute fantasy in the idea of a tiny, inbreeding population increasing so quickly and both sustaining itself and spreading across the globe. Just utter, ridiculous nonsense meant for gullible, religious nutballs .


I mean...seriously, you are an insufferable moron. How dare an uneducated slob like you call the scientists of the world liars and incompetents. If I had my way, I would parade you around on television and around Universities so you could soak up the ridicule you so richly deserve.

Then go ahead and explain mitochondrial DNA studies using your own words. How does it relate?

Mine is based on Malthus and he was seriously questioned over his population explosion theories, but not over the doubling in size of population and the population numbers back up today's population from a young earth. You ignore everything I've said and instead fall into your dumb AF routine. Besides, you are so dumb AF to not realize the ape humans would've had to inbreed, too. We already know that their progeny would be deformed. They would've produced someone like you had they really existed. Hairy, can't walk upright, small cranial capacity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then go ahead and explain mitochondrial DNA studies using your own words. How does it relate?

Why? Why should any educated person spend one shred of energy providing any evidence or explanation to an asshole like you? You parade around with your stupid book of fairy tales, pissing on all the available evidence.

But, okay.

We know for a fact that there was a mitochondrial Adam and a mitochondrial Eve. We know for a fact that these two individuals did not exist at the same time, and we also know for a fact that many other individuals of the species existed at the same time they existed.

We know mitochondrial Adam lived about 100,000 years ago, and mitochondrial Eve lived about 200,000 years ago.

All of your claims are demonstrably false bullshit. Sorry,but you are complete joke, when it comes to this topic.

 

[james bond]

Then go ahead and explain mitochondrial DNA studies using your own words. How does it relate?

Why? Why should any educated person spend one shred of energy providing any evidence or explanation to an asshole like you? You parade around with your stupid book of fairy tales, pissing on all the available evidence.

But, okay.

We know for a fact that there was a mitochondrial Adam and a mitochondrial Eve. We know for a fact that these two individuals did not exist at the same time, and we also know for a fact that many other individuals of the species existed at the same time they existed.

We know mitochondrial Adam lived about 100,000 years ago, and mitochondrial Eve lived about 200,000 years ago.

All of your claims are demonstrably false bullshit. Sorry,but you are complete joke, when it comes to this topic.

I wanted you to explain because you have no idea of what you are talking about. For example, it's not mitochondrial Adam, but Y-chromosomal Adam and mitochondrial Eve. And you accuse me of slinging bull when you do not read the Bible nor have a good understanding of science. What you just did with your explanation is science backing up what the Bible stated. It's about God creating Adam and Eve. You admitted that all humans living today descended from a single male and single female humans. Our disagreement are over the separate years and whether these were the only humans alive at the beginning. Also, it hasn't been determined where these humans lived. Right now, the focus is in Africa (more evidence for racist Darwin and his theory of ape-humans becoming black humans), but it could have been out of Africa.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I wanted you to explain because you have no idea of what you are talking about. For example, it's not mitochondrial Adam, but Y-chromosomal Adam and mitochondrial Eve.

I do know what I am talking about. Sorry for that little mixup due to haste. My point stands. And all of your claims are embarrassingly stupid and false.

 

[Syriusly]

DNA is biology, not statistics.

Let's stay on biology since it was brought up. What Darwin, whom we get the idea that humans came from apes, claimed was humans in Africa came from apes. Not only is that racist today, one cannot get a white person from a black person. One cannot get a white blue eyed caucasian. However, one can get that from a Middile Eastern (Aramaean) or Jews race.

What is racist in pointing out that all humans- of all colors- and the apes of Africa- are descended from a common ancestor?

 

[Syriusly]

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

LOL- tell us more about the scientific evidence for ancient humans who 'lived hundreds of years'.

There are no 'ancient humans vs prehistoric humans after the Flood'- there are prehistoric humans- and there are historic humans.

While our hunter gatherer ancestors did live longer than our farming ancestors, there is no evidence that any early humans lived any longer than modern humans with access to modern healthcare and sanitation.

None at all.

Heh. Another skeptic and critic of God's Word.

As evidence, would you pay me as follows?

Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim.

I'm trying to give you a thought experiment in order to provide evidence through population.

And I am still pointing out that you have no evidence to back up your claim

So again:
Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim

As always- when pressed to prove his claims- James dances away with the ease of Fred Astaire with Donald Trump on his back.



So again:
Pennies are not evidence that any ancient humans lived 'hundreds of years'.

Let me know when you have anything other than a book of fables to support that claim

 

[Unkotare]

Thus, we know humans did not come from apes. Too much evidence against it

Please share some...

God created humans on a different day.

Religious evidence, got it. Any scientific evidence?

Religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They're worldviews and influence us throughout our entire lives.

For evidence, let's look at the ancient humans vs the prehistoric humans that came after Noah's flood. They knew how to use tools and quickly adapted to farming. These people lived hundreds of years. While the prehistoric humans that came after the flood weren't so advanced. They had to learn things all over again. These are the people you claim to have come from apes.

Did you say “lived hundreds of years”?

 

[Votto]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

Not true.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

Not true.

There is no science to be found anywhere in those videos.

 

[RWS]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

"Are" not allowed.

This is why atheists are usually wrong. Atheist science believes the universe started from nothing and that there are multiverses. They are bat sh*t looney. They also believe in the racist theory that humans in Africa came from apes.

Answer me this... Is the Earth round or flat?

Is it a ball or a pancake? I think it's a pancake! I don't care about the scientist bullshit. It's obviously flat. Besides all the shit we disagree on, I think we may finally agree on something, dang... I'm interested in your view on this

I lost track since yesterday of where we were, so sorry if this is a repeat.

I'm afraid that we're still disagreeing .

The earth is a sphere floating in space. That's from the Bible. Do you want proof?

Even in those days, people used the stars for navigation.

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Today, I realized that I've known you for years on this forum, but never invited you. Today, we talked about inviting at church..

Even if you believe you evolved from an ape, would you consider inviting Christ into your life? That you are a sinner and that he died to save you from your sins.

Believing you're related to monkeys is probably not a sin unless you go too far.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,1 and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it." Acts 1

Jesus is in my life. I try to live my life the way Jesus would, in the ideal, whether he existed or not. I just don't accept the religions that use that ideal (or others) to inflict harm upon others.

 

[RWS]

Creationist theory ranks right there with flat earth theory.

Both require religion, and science is not allowed.

Not true.

That's a heckuva lotta videos to watch... Could you please provide a point, and then use them as reference? I mean, I can also give you a million videos explaining evolution without a comment.

Maybe your genesis theory is based on ancient aliens... hmm? That's much more believable.....

 

[toobfreak]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

 

[RWS]

I know there are similarities but I think they are coincidental, like cats and seals both have whiskers. But cats didn't come from seals or vice a versa.

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That can't be right, because it says "homo" in there, before us, and no descendants can come from homos....

 

[alex.harmuth]

If anything, evolution is like the flat Earth theory. Both ignore with their eyes what they try to prove with science.

Flat Earthers use all sorts of math, calculate angles of the Sun, calculate distance over curvature and all the time, to them, it points to the Earth being flat.

Evolutionists point to genetic codes, similarities in the genes, imagined creatures with these genes based on thousands of year old bones and all the time, to them, it points to evolution.

Both beliefs fail to simply use their own eyes and common sense. You can see that the Earth is obviously round just like you can see that we obviously did not come from tadpoles or squirrels or monkeys. Math and science need not apply.

Look at a tree, you know it's a tree. You don't need to do math or use DNA to prove it's a tree. Why?.... Because it's a tree. Now apply this to the Earth and to monkeys vs human beings.

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[RWS]

If anything, evolution is like the flat Earth theory. Both ignore with their eyes what they try to prove with science.

Flat Earthers use all sorts of math, calculate angles of the Sun, calculate distance over curvature and all the time, to them, it points to the Earth being flat.

Evolutionists point to genetic codes, similarities in the genes, imagined creatures with these genes based on thousands of year old bones and all the time, to them, it points to evolution.

Both beliefs fail to simply use their own eyes and common sense. You can see that the Earth is obviously round just like you can see that we obviously did not come from tadpoles or squirrels or monkeys. Math and science need not apply.

Look at a tree, you know it's a tree. You don't need to do math or use DNA to prove it's a tree. Why?.... Because it's a tree. Now apply this to the Earth and to monkeys vs human beings.

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The thing is you're hung up on the religion you were brainwashed into when you were born.

Without the mask of religion clouding your vision, reality should become obvious. God didn't "poof" us into this world. We got here gradually over billions of years.

But there's another thing to consider....

And here's where evolution and creationism mix, and is a great subject to debate:

The Sumerians wrote that the Anunnaki ("those who came from heaven to earth") created humans (AD.IM) in a place called ED.IN. They wrote this at least 2000 years before the supposed writing of the OT. They were our "creators" and "rulers". The OT turned the Anunnaki into a belief in a schizophrenic god.

That's where your OT creation myths come from.

Aliens could have come and created us out of other homos to use as slaves using their own genes, and left us with knowledge when they left. So "gods" created us in their image. Other than that possible part in human history, evolution rules, before and after.