Do you believe that the Internet should be a free speech Platform?

[jbander]

If you are a Nazi, you want to be able to say anything you want. Only way to drive for the hate needed to promote Nazism. And we see that daily in the right wing here. Where they actually think it is better to lie then to tell the truth. Again you can control people with controlling verbiage , hate filled and ugly. If you decide that lying is always better then telling the truth more hate will be created.

 

[jbander]

To prove my point just read the responses. you will see who wants to be able to say anything they want.

 

[shockedcanadian]

"Free speech" means that you can say what you want without the GOVERNMENT stopping you.

Youtube is NOT the government. They have their platform, if they ban you, it doesn't stop you from saying what you want elsewhere.

Do you know why the government used to confront monopolies? To ensure that citizens didn't become powerless as we are in most of the world. Google, youtube, FB and twitter are the modern day oil tycoons from yesteryear. Instead, government harnesses them for power today rather than directing them to allow free speech.

 

[The Duke]

If you are a Nazi, you want to be able to say anything you want. Only way to drive for the hate needed to promote Nazism. And we see that daily in the right wing here. Where they actually think it is better to lie then to tell the truth. Again you can control people with controlling verbiage , hate filled and ugly. If you decide that lying is always better then telling the truth more hate will be created.

To prove my point just read the responses. you will see who wants to be able to say anything they want.

Stupid commie slave shitbag. If there wasn't free speech, you couldn't spout your bullshit lies.

Silencing others and even ruining their lives is what your side wants to and tries to do though.

You piece of stupid shit. Your ideas can't withstand the light of day.

Free discourse exposes that. You know, Liberalism?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do you know why the government used to confront monopolies? To ensure that citizens didn't become powerless as we are in most of the world. Google, youtube, FB and twitter are the modern day oil tycoons from yesteryear. Instead, government harnesses them for power today rather than directing them to allow free speech.

The government doesn't have to direct them to "allow free speech" because they are NOT the government. The government "harnesses them for power today".... well, the whole US system is corrupt. Nobody seems interested in changing this.

People come on here whining and moaning about something because they don't understand what it is, and then don't complain about something they SHOULD because they're equally ignorant.

That's how "democracy" works.

 

[The Duke]

The government doesn't have to direct them to "allow free speech" because they are NOT the government. The government "harnesses them for power today".... well, the whole US system is corrupt. Nobody seems interested in changing this.

People come on here whining and moaning about something because they don't understand what it is, and then don't complain about something they SHOULD because they're equally ignorant.

That's how "democracy" works.

Do you not believe in equity? Equity for Republicans?

Should they not get an equal say on any platform based in the US?

 

[22lcidw]

The internet with free speech must also be secure. Not to deny however to make sure people do not get destroyed from having a passionate view or opinion at the moment and are out of bounds.

 

[pknopp]

So we are arguing for government control of private companies? LOL

 

[22lcidw]

So we are arguing for government control of private companies? LOL

Making the internet secure is not government control. We have windows editions built in with flaws a lot of people complain. We used to have some standards on TV. Perhaps too much. The problem is that when they were removed the advancement into anything goes mushroomed and it continues today. TV has become dark and cynical. It affects people.

 

[pknopp]

Making the internet secure is not government control.

So who is going to "secure" it?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Do you not believe in equity? Equity for Republicans?

Should they not get an equal say on any platform based in the US?

So if a Democrat writes a post, a Republican has to reply before another Democrat can write a post or what????

 

[Votto]

Before 2020 people like David Duke and Andrew Tate, Robert Spencer, and others were allowed to provide their messages. Often they were mocked, laughed at or disagreed with. Everything was fine. The world was a safer place. The economy was better. Fast forward to 2020 and political platforms like YouTube, Instagram and Twitter banned these types of figures under the guise of “hate speech.”

The Democrats and neocons will say well that’s a businesses decision. Of course they are intentionally trolling or they simply don’t know any better that these social media platforms play pivotal roles when it comes to the election. Just look at Taylor Swift another powerful figures using social media, to tell people to support abortion and get out and vote which is her right. So you could either support freedom or under some evil deranged or misinformed guy say “well it’s just a business decision Taylor Swift should be banned.”





And that’s the difference between an American patriot and Biden BLM supporter. The American patriot says let’s allow BLM to go on YouTube and say white people are born privileged. To say that the white man is evil. But the Biden BLM supporter will turn around and say no the business can do what they want, and they can even affect the outcome of elections by banning certain figures from their platforms.

It’s all the more interesting because here in 2023 We have a terrible economy, super high inflation under Joe Biden. Out of control illegal immigration and crime throughout the country. To think that Biden supporters and supporters of restrictions of free-speech will go along with that stuff while they are poor, using drugs all the time, obese, or severely underweight, is all the more interesting and astonishing really.

But things are perhaps being taken to a new level. With the idea of further encroachments of free speech in countries like England, Canada and America, where the proposals are to silence, fine and even imprison people who for example, engage in “vaccine disinformation.” in other words simply disagreeing with What a politician say. A clear cut infringement of free speech.

Biden BLM supporters may have already made up their minds along with the neoconservatives. After all they’re the same people who approves of totalitarian shut down of free speech on social media of conservatives in 2020 ….so why wouldn’t they say that somebody who engages in vaccine disinformation should be thrown in jail or fined $1-10 million dollars.


What will be the future of the Internet be in America. Will freedom prevail.???? Will the founding fathers prevail. How about the legacy of The men and women who fought in World War II for freedom…. I think that freedom will prevail and the bad guys will lose.

The only freedoms in the US the government and democrats care about is the freedom to have an abortion and smoke dope.

All other freedoms are too dangerous for people to have.

 

[surada]

If the internet is going to survive they must go 100% free speech... remember its only democrats that are trying to limit speech on the internet....

Like here on usmb?

 

[surada]

The only freedoms in the US the government and democrats care about is the freedom to have an abortion and smoke dope.

All other freedoms are too dangerous for people to have.

So if you put a website on the internet anyone can write anything? Like NAMBLA?

 

[alang1216]

Before 2020 people like David Duke and Andrew Tate, Robert Spencer, and others were allowed to provide their messages. Often they were mocked, laughed at or disagreed with. Everything was fine. The world was a safer place. The economy was better. Fast forward to 2020 and political platforms like YouTube, Instagram and Twitter banned these types of figures under the guise of “hate speech.”

The Democrats and neocons will say well that’s a businesses decision. Of course they are intentionally trolling or they simply don’t know any better that these social media platforms play pivotal roles when it comes to the election. Just look at Taylor Swift another powerful figures using social media, to tell people to support abortion and get out and vote which is her right. So you could either support freedom or under some evil deranged or misinformed guy say “well it’s just a business decision Taylor Swift should be banned.”





And that’s the difference between an American patriot and Biden BLM supporter. The American patriot says let’s allow BLM to go on YouTube and say white people are born privileged. To say that the white man is evil. But the Biden BLM supporter will turn around and say no the business can do what they want, and they can even affect the outcome of elections by banning certain figures from their platforms.

It’s all the more interesting because here in 2023 We have a terrible economy, super high inflation under Joe Biden. Out of control illegal immigration and crime throughout the country. To think that Biden supporters and supporters of restrictions of free-speech will go along with that stuff while they are poor, using drugs all the time, obese, or severely underweight, is all the more interesting and astonishing really.

But things are perhaps being taken to a new level. With the idea of further encroachments of free speech in countries like England, Canada and America, where the proposals are to silence, fine and even imprison people who for example, engage in “vaccine disinformation.” in other words simply disagreeing with What a politician say. A clear cut infringement of free speech.

Biden BLM supporters may have already made up their minds along with the neoconservatives. After all they’re the same people who approves of totalitarian shut down of free speech on social media of conservatives in 2020 ….so why wouldn’t they say that somebody who engages in vaccine disinformation should be thrown in jail or fined $1-10 million dollars.


What will be the future of the Internet be in America. Will freedom prevail.???? Will the founding fathers prevail. How about the legacy of The men and women who fought in World War II for freedom…. I think that freedom will prevail and the bad guys will lose.

I don't very many wish to ban or censor opinions on the internet, I sure don't. On the other hand, lies masquerading as facts, should be banned. It may not be easy or pretty but it is worth trying.

 

[Care4all]

The Internet is just a free market place for people to promote their lies and fake news.... drowning out truth and facts.

Buyer Beware! Know what you are dealing with, and you'll be fine....go down the rabbit hole? Not so much.

 

[SeaMajor7]

If you are a Nazi, you want to be able to say anything you want. Only way to drive for the hate needed to promote Nazism. And we see that daily in the right wing here. Where they actually think it is better to lie then to tell the truth. Again you can control people with controlling verbiage , hate filled and ugly. If you decide that lying is always better then telling the truth more hate will be created.

See, this unhinged poster spouts incredibly warped bullshit, but I'll be damned to deny its right to make an ass of itself.
Fuck YEAH the internet should be a FREE SPEECH platform for ALL!!!

 

[sparky]

What will be the future of the Internet be in America.

Mr Z's bought every last camera around him since this day.....~S~

 

[MinTrut]

"Free speech" means that you can say what you want without the GOVERNMENT stopping you.

Not quite right.

Youtube is NOT the government. They have their platform, if they ban you, it doesn't stop you from saying what you want elsewhere.

YT and similar entities are closely tied to governments, and often act at government direction.

HOW can you pretend not to know this?

Also, once a public space is set up by a private entity, it cannot dictate what is discussed beyond existing legal limits like obscenity, harassment, etc.

But I get it - like conservatives who accuse anyone who wants Anne Frank to be available to 13 years olds of being a Marxist groomer, your liberal belief is that free speech that you disagree with is dangerous and should be silenced.

You don't understand free speech any better than your conservative doppelgangers.

 

[Lesh]

The internet (Facebook) has been used to facilitate genocide (Miramar)

It was used to co-ordinate Jan6

It was used to spread false narratives about COVID

You see that as good things?