Did Pretti act lawfully?

[22lcidw]

You need to read the Constitution
Pretti was following the law

Police need to deescalate when there is no threat to themselves or the public

The whole ICE insurrections are a sham. Our nation is fragmenting with a growing percentage of people coming here not assimilating.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The actions of ICE do more harm than good

to the privileged class

I don’t care if a neighbor has the correct paperwork, I care if he is a good neighbor

can we assume this goes for voting as well

I don’t want ICE storming my neighbourhood chasing peaceful people

and they don't want illegals hiding in your neighborhood, and you are breaking the law if you are aiding and abetting illegals.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The actions of ICE do more harm than good

I don’t care if a neighbor has the correct paperwork, I care if he is a good neighbor

I don’t want ICE storming my neighbourhood chasing peaceful people

You are simply parroting what you see on TV.

Is ICE “storming” your neighborhood and taking away your neighbors who broke federal law?

Give us examples in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I live in Tampa, we have thousands of illegals. I see no examples of ICE storming neighborhoods.

It seems to me you are just here to spread left wing talking points from the talking heads you see on screens.

 

[Seymour Flops]

He was wrongfuly killed he never met the standard for use of deadly force. He should have bee arrested

Yes, I agree with that.

The whole approach of ICE officers being sent to detain illegals for deportation and then being expected to also deal with rioters they are confronted with was wrongheaded. It was bound to lead to tragedy, and now it has led to two tragedies.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes, I agree with that.

The whole approach of ICE officers being sent to detain illegals for deportation and then being expected to also deal with rioters they are confronted with was wrongheaded. It was bound to lead to tragedy, and now it has led to two tragedies.

The democrats poured oil on the fire and wanted as much chaos as they could create. They want illegal in the country at any cost. They are the future of the democrat party as voters and counted in the census. This is an attack on American culture

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes, I agree with that.

The whole approach of ICE officers being sent to detain illegals for deportation and then being expected to also deal with rioters they are confronted with was wrongheaded. It was bound to lead to tragedy, and now it has led to two tragedies.

They didn't "riot".

The DHS Agents are the ones that initiated physical violence.

Violence resulting in an unarmed man (who the shooting officer just watch another officer exit the scrum with the extracted firearm from the rear holster that Pretti never reached for) in the back while on his knees, in control of the 4-5 officer scrum, arms in front of him, holding his phone, blinded and in pain from being OC sprayed multiple times.

WW

 

[Seymour Flops]

They didn't "riot".

The DHS Agents are the ones that initiated physical violence.

Violence resulting in an unarmed man (who the shooting officer just watch another officer exit the scrum with the extracted firearm from the rear holster that Pretti never reached for) in the back while on his knees, in control of the 4-5 officer scrum, arms in front of him, holding his phone, blinded and in pain from being OC sprayed multiple times.

WW

If you claim that those people were not rioting then that is too dishonest to start an actual discussion.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Cute, he did it to himself.

Um no. He literally did nothing and definitely didn't shoot himself.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You lefties cried that it was impossible to have a secure border.

Now you are crying that deportations are bad.

You also cry that voter id is bad.

Share with us YOUR plan to handle the 20 million people who broke federal immigration laws.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Here Maria Bartiromo also tries in vain to get a Democrat to be honest:

 

[j-mac]

Post #151 does tell the whole story. From way before the officers came to Pretti's side of the road. Until after they lined up and executed him. Including all the in between stuff.

And if that is indeed the case, then the investigation will show that, the officers will be charged, and it will come out at trial.

You, nor I was there, and we don’t know the entire story.

The ‘court of public opinion’ doesn’t matter here.

 

[WorldWatcher]

If you claim that those people were not rioting then that is too dishonest to start an actual discussion.

If you claim that those people were rioting then that is too dishonest to start an actual discussion.

WW

 

[j-mac]

You lefties cried that it was impossible to have a secure border.

Now you are crying that deportations are bad.

You also cry that voter id is bad.

Share with us YOUR plan to handle the 20 million people who broke federal immigration laws.

Easy, give them all amnesty, DLs, and allow them to vote.

 

[WorldWatcher]

You lefties cried that it was impossible to have a secure border.

Now you are crying that deportations are bad.

You also cry that voter id is bad.

Share with us YOUR plan to handle the 20 million people who broke federal immigration laws.

That's why I'm not a lefty.

#1 I support border security when done intelligently and also stepped up enforcement of illegals that crossed the border legally and remained past their alloted time.

#2 I support deportation of those present in the country illgeally in accordance with the law and under rights guarenteed to all persons.

#3 I don't support shooting a woman through the head through the drivers side window of a vehicle or shooting an unarmed man in the back who was on the ground under physical control of 4-5 DHS agents.

WW

 

[YoursTruly]

And if that is indeed the case, then the investigation will show that, the officers will be charged, and it will come out at trial.

You, nor I was there, and we don’t know the entire story.

The ‘court of public opinion’ doesn’t matter here.

The camera's didn't lie or distort anything. This was recorded from way before the officers came to Pretti's side of the road. He never even got close to them, until they came to him.

And it also shows the officer who shot Pretti, paying very close attention to the officer who took Pretti's gun. Even after the gun was taken.

We wasn't there. But it doesn't change what we saw on video.

 

[j-mac]

You're thinking of Trump's goons going after his VP for respecting the law and democracy?

Trump expressed support for hanging Pence​

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Who they plan to hang with that prop, a midget?

 

[YoursTruly]

That's why I'm not a lefty.

#1 I support border security when done intelligently and also stepped up enforcement of illegals that crossed the border legally and remained past their alloted time.

#2 I support deportation of those present in the country illgeally in accordance with the law and under rights guarenteed to all persons.

#3 I don't support shooting a woman through the head through the drivers side window of a vehicle or shooting an unarmed man in the back who was on the ground under physical control of 4-5 DHS agents.

WW

I agree with all that. But the shooting of Good. That was a good shoot. The officer didn't have time to see exactly which direction the wheels were turned or that she was trying to dodge him. Only that the car was moving forward towards him. After she'd been told by another to get out of her vehicle.

Good escalated that one.

But Pretti, 100% that was a bad shoot.

 

[j-mac]

Um no. He literally did nothing and definitely didn't shoot himself.

Obstructing law enforcement is a bad idea.

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you claim that those people were rioting then that is too dishonest to start an actual discussion.

WW

I respect you as a poster, and I will discuss any other topic with you.

But democrats and "not democrats" have made the conscious decision that taking the honest approach to this issue will not work for them, so therefore they will be completely dishonest.

Which is . . . okay. Unlike assaulting and interfering with law enforcement officers, being dishonest on a message board is absolutely protected by the first amendment.

But I do not have to humor people who do that, or say something like, "well for the sake of argument . . . "

 

[YoursTruly]

Obstructing law enforcement is a bad idea.

Pretti wasn't obstructing anything. The officer approached him. He only raised his hand to block the pepper spray.

That's not obstructing.