Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

[teddyearp]

Where was "Arab state" ever mentioned?

Eat your own pretzel.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I know that Jews should not lie, steel or murder. Day one stuff there.

What is 'steeling'? Are you saying that they forbidden to make an alloy from iron and other elements, primarily carbon?

BTW, Mr. Arnold, it's "stealing", not steeling.

 

[montelatici]

Keep up there Louie.... On your list is this interesting expulsion.. USA --- 1862 (Grant)

Did you research that one? It's a doozy.... I think we should scratch that one the hell off since Lincoln fixed the issue.. And you have several CITIES listed multiple times in as many years. Like Prague or Mainz. Were the Nazis who made this list just fluffing it out a bit there?

No, why?

Did you REALLY BELIEVE jews were expelled by the US govt in 1862 ????

General Order No. 11 was the title of an order issued by Major-General Ulysses S. Grant on December 17, 1862, during the American Civil War. It ordered the expulsion of all Jews in his military district, comprising areas of Tennessee, Mississippi, and Kentucky.
General Order No. 11 (1862) - Wikipedia

32+ thousand posts? Shouldn't you be better at this?

Yep December 17th 1862 by a Yankee fanatic General... Countermanded by Prez Lincoln in an executive order in January 1863. Not the FIRST time that this anti-semite, hard drinking, SOB got called onto the carpet in the Oval Office. Did you not KNOW this??? Again I ask because there's so much that you don't know.... Didn't happen.. Orders traveled slowly back then.. It was before the StormFront discovered Twitter or USMB...

Yep -- LOTS of posts I've made. And I'm VERY good at this...

So, the Jews were expelled and Grant became president later. Game, set, match.

Are you gonna make a historical declaration that Grant expellled the Jews as President?

Or are still gloating that the alcoholic anti-Semitic SOB won election??

No, reiterating the fact that Jews were expelled by Grant.

 

[Lipush]

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

I thought the topic was:
Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

Let me rephrase your question:

Does anyone believe that the UN giving Eretz Yisroel to the Jewish People was the right thing to do? Answer: Yes.

The topic is did it bode well for peace. Try and follow along. You do know what peace means, correct?

Let me break a myth here. This was never about peace. Only lately it was brought us. The main goal of us was the existence of Israel as home for all Jews. If it was through peace with the Arabs, why not, it is the best solution. If it is only possible through war with them, then, we are ready for that, if needed. Either way, Israel remains.

 

[Lipush]

But they have been thrown out of over 100 nations prior to being thrust upon the Palestinians. You don't think it was because of their behavior while others disagree, but simply based on this, the world should have known that it would not bode well for peace.

So the Holocaust was a result of Jews "not playing nice" ... By your logic?

You're crazy.

 

[Correll]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The thing that started this thread seems to operate on the principle that bigotry against Jews is justified by the very reason it exists.

It claims to be Jewish while being here for the sole purpose of hating Jews and ignoring the fact that Jews arose in the very land it seeks to deny them.

If it were actually Jewish, it would know such things.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

 

[Correll]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

 

[Correll]

Seriously now. Could you imagine the UN giving Dallas, TX to a religious cult from Mexico? Does anyone really believe that that would work?

Beyond that, we are talking about a group that already had had to be expelled from pretty much everywhere else where they ever tried to occupy.

Pretty crazy when you think about it, no?

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

The Japanese threw him out of his home?

 

[Correll]

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

The Japanese threw him out of his home?

Try to not be a dishonest prick.

 

[montelatici]

I suspect they figured that the tiny piece of land involved would not be considered a big issue.

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

 

[Correll]

C'mon, can't you see how much of the Arab land Zionist Israel is occupying? And, like the Palestinians say in the first paragraph, in the first lines, of their Charter, Palestine is an indivisible part of the Larger Arab Nation. Since it's the very first thing they say, it must be a really important part of their identity.

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

No, the point is the same. Choose to hold onto your hate, or move on in the world.


The Arab World is vast compared to Israel. Hell, I've met palestinians in this country.

If Israel is so horrible for them, MOVE.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

No, the point is the same. Choose to hold onto your hate, or move on in the world.


The Arab World is vast compared to Israel. Hell, I've met palestinians in this country.

If Israel is so horrible for them, MOVE.

Haha, that's what Judge Judy says to tenants who complain about their landlords and don't want to pay rent: "Move!"

 

[montelatici]

Well, it is really important for the people who already lived there and got booted from their homes. Yes, really important. It doesn't matter how small. It was everything they had.

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

No, the point is the same. Choose to hold onto your hate, or move on in the world.


The Arab World is vast compared to Israel. Hell, I've met palestinians in this country.

If Israel is so horrible for them, MOVE.

What does what is happening in the "Arab world" have to do with Muslim and Christian Palestinians under military occupation being oppressed and humiliated daily?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

No, the point is the same. Choose to hold onto your hate, or move on in the world.


The Arab World is vast compared to Israel. Hell, I've met palestinians in this country.

If Israel is so horrible for them, MOVE.

What does what is happening in the "Arab world" have to do with Muslim and Christian Palestinians under military occupation being oppressed and humiliated daily?

Most Palestinians today live under PA control. Hopefully a peace agreement soon will put an end to checkpoints and stuff like that.

 

[Correll]

You're talking about the 1940s? Nearly 80 years ago?

Your point?

If you hold on to an alleged injustice for two generations, that is your choice to be consumed by hatred and the past.


My dad, a WWII vet, had some resentment against the Japanese. He mentioned it ONCE to me.

He did not raise me to hate them.

I am not raising my child to hate them.

We have moved on.


WWII is OVER.

These Palestinians could learn something from my dad.

That's not a very good analogy, the Palestinians currently are under foreign military occupation subjected to daily humiliation that the children see or have been evicted from their homeland and are living in refugee camps. Forgetting something that is happening in real time on a daily basis is not possible.

No, the point is the same. Choose to hold onto your hate, or move on in the world.


The Arab World is vast compared to Israel. Hell, I've met palestinians in this country.

If Israel is so horrible for them, MOVE.

What does what is happening in the "Arab world" have to do with Muslim and Christian Palestinians under military occupation being oppressed and humiliated daily?

See above.