Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

[Shusha]

... than that of a universal welcoming religion like Christianity ...

Oh please? A "welcoming" religion? With a supposed father who tortures his children for eternity?

But, you must also understand we Christians do not believe in your fairy tales.

Christianity, by definition, requires you to believe in at least some of our fairy tales. Or are you rejecting your entire "Old Testament" now?

Take a guess.

"Hebrews 8:13 ►

By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Fairy tale = obsolete?

So, I guess a cassette tape is just a fairy tale, huh?

 

[Lipush]

Except that she's right, and you're clueless with not even the tinniest sip of knowledge of the Jewish world.

I'm a he. lol

*facepalm* I probebly confused you with Independent, or another poster. *another face palm*

Dayum.

 

[Lipush]

You must understand that a tiny paranoid religion has to have a position statement that is more self-serving than that of a universal welcoming religion like Christianity. Things like helping those of your own religion rather than seeing others in a Christian way differentiates Christianity from small paranoid sects like Judaism and large aggressive sects like Islam.

But, you must also understand we Christians do not believe in your fairy tales.

Why must I see things in a Christian way rather then you see things in a Jewish way or a Muslim way? Why do you think everybody should view things in your prespective or else? That's pure egotistical, snobish, and sinning to the truth.

 

[Lipush]

You must understand that a tiny paranoid religion has to have a position statement that is more self-serving than that of a universal welcoming religion like Christianity. Things like helping those of your own religion rather than seeing others in a Christian way differentiates Christianity from small paranoid sects like Judaism and large aggressive sects like Islam.

But, you must also understand we Christians do not believe in your fairy tales.

Yet you believe that a virgin was impregnanted by God, and Muslims believe Muhammad came to the western wall flying a golden horse.

Not that I give a flying s***, but you have your fairy tales and we have our own. I'll rather stick to mine. You don't like it, let's take it to the religious forum. It's really not the point here. I was just stating the obvious that Neturei Karta don't follow the laws they pretend to stick to, is all.,

 

[louie888]

Neturei Karta don't follow the laws they pretend to stick to, is all.,

 

[Indeependent]

They say Zionists are against God but themselves alone disobey so many of the Torah laws, without even realizing it. so sad.

Please explain if you can, but I already know you are just talking shit.

Most Liberal, self-hating Jews, such as yourself, never spent an hour learning Torah.

All I said was I know that Jews should not lie, steel or murder. Day one stuff there.

I guess you disagree LOL.

Like I posted...you know NOTHING.

 

[Hollie]

Of course nobody thought this would bode well for peace. Don't forget the Jews history. From the OP:

Why on earth would anyone think it would of worked in Palestine of all places which in fact was inhabited by their sworn enemies.

Sworn enemies?

I thought Islamism was The Religion of Peace™

 

[flacaltenn]

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

 

[montelatici]

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

 

[Lipush]

Hamas is the Palestinian government. And funny you should point that out... when was the last time the palestinians voted for a change in government? when was it that Hamas called for elections to make sure THEY are what the people still want?

Netanyahu may be a sleaze, but he's known for calling for election many times in the past when the goverment's place in the public eye began shaking. That's a point in his favor.

 

[louie888]

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

Yes I have a clue... do you? Jews have been thrown out of over 100 countries so you bring up Palis getting kicked out of 2? That is off topic. Remember what we are discussing:

Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

And this thread is 7 pages long and not one poster came on here claiming it would bode well for peace. That speaks volumes, especially considering the posters here.


Start a thread on all the countries Palestinians were kicked out of. And they were fine self governing prior to the zionist terrorists stealing their land. That off topic aspect of your post was simply trash and a deflection as well.

Look at it again...

Now reread your post and please start a new thread if you wish to change the topic.

Thanks.

 

[flacaltenn]

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

 

[louie888]

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

I thought the topic was:
Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

I thought the topic was:
Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

Let me rephrase your question:

Does anyone believe that the UN giving Eretz Yisroel to the Jewish People was the right thing to do? Answer: Yes.

 

[louie888]

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

I thought the topic was:
Did anyone really believe that the UN giving Palestine to extremist Jews would bode well for peace?

Let me rephrase your question:

Does anyone believe that the UN giving Eretz Yisroel to the Jewish People was the right thing to do? Answer: Yes.

The topic is did it bode well for peace. Try and follow along. You do know what peace means, correct?

 

[montelatici]

nd

Where should they have gone if nobody wanted them?

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

Oh please, the Palestinians are not Hashemite Bedouins, Jordan was established as a Hashemite Bedouin (Arabians) state. The country is controlled by and for the Hashemite Bedouins, it has done nothing for Palestinian self-determination. Their attempt to achieve self-determination through violence in a state where they were not the native people was a mistake, on the other hand they were emulating what the Jews did in their native land and two wrongs don't make a right, I agree. Today they make up 50% or more of the population and they don't have many more rights than Arab citizens of Israel have, A fully functional PA in an occupied territory is no different than Vichy France, that's not self-determination, it is just accepting and validating permanent military occupation. In Gaza Israel controls the borders, territorial sea, the air space and collects taxes. Gaza is occupied by Israel as the ICJ has determined. Do I need to go on blowing this Zionist propaganda out of the water?

 

[flacaltenn]

nd

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

Oh please, the Palestinians are not Hashemite Bedouins, Jordan was established as a Hashemite Bedouin (Arabians) state. The country is controlled by and for the Hashemite Bedouins, it has done nothing for Palestinian self-determination. Their attempt to achieve self-determination through violence in a state where they were not the native people was a mistake, on the other hand they were emulating what the Jews did in their native land and two wrongs don't make a right, I agree. Today they make up 50% or more of the population and they don't have many more rights than Arab citizens of Israel have, A fully functional PA in an occupied territory is no different than Vichy France, that's not self-determination, it is just accepting and validating permanent military occupation. In Gaza Israel controls the borders, territorial sea, the air space and collects taxes. Gaza is occupied by Israel as the ICJ has determined. Do I need to go on blowing this Zionist propaganda out of the water?

Not gonna get into TRIBAL fusses with you in THIS thread. It's a ridiculous assertion that any PEOPLE need to live in a TRIBALLY segregated Zone or country... Kinda kills you're "peace and love" in the HolyLand plan doesn't it? Since we're talking about who's been tossed out of various countries, it needs to pointed out that the Complainants in this thread -- the Palis --- apparently have a HUGE ISSUE in living with other Tribes and cultures... I don't give a damn about every pesky Arab tribe getting their own ******* country... If the Jews had that psychological problem --- they'd need TWELVE countries..

 

[montelatici]

nd

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

Oh please, the Palestinians are not Hashemite Bedouins, Jordan was established as a Hashemite Bedouin (Arabians) state. The country is controlled by and for the Hashemite Bedouins, it has done nothing for Palestinian self-determination. Their attempt to achieve self-determination through violence in a state where they were not the native people was a mistake, on the other hand they were emulating what the Jews did in their native land and two wrongs don't make a right, I agree. Today they make up 50% or more of the population and they don't have many more rights than Arab citizens of Israel have, A fully functional PA in an occupied territory is no different than Vichy France, that's not self-determination, it is just accepting and validating permanent military occupation. In Gaza Israel controls the borders, territorial sea, the air space and collects taxes. Gaza is occupied by Israel as the ICJ has determined. Do I need to go on blowing this Zionist propaganda out of the water?

Not gonna get into TRIBAL fusses with you in THIS thread. It's a ridiculous assertion that any PEOPLE need to live in a TRIBALLY segregated Zone or country... Kinda kills you're "peace and love" in the HolyLand plan doesn't it? Since we're talking about who's been tossed out of various countries, it needs to pointed out that the Complainants in this thread -- the Palis --- apparently have a HUGE ISSUE in living with other Tribes and cultures... I don't give a damn about every pesky Arab tribe getting their own ******* country... If the Jews had that psychological problem --- they'd need TWELVE countries.. [/QUOTE

Arabs are people that speak Arabic, they are not all Arabians. Austrians and German-speaking Swiss for example are Germanic, but they are not Germans. The Spanish and other nationalities are Hispanic, but a Colombian or Mexican is not a Spaniard. A Tunisian is an Arab, but barring language is far closer culturally to other people of the Mediterranean than an Arabian. Palestinians have the same right as other people to self determination, it has nothing to do with tribalism. Nor is it a psychological problem with the Palestinians unless any people desiring independence and self-determination have a psychological problem, Jews included.

 

[louie888]

nd

That's their problem, right? Probably should have tried to assimilate better instead of getting kicked out everywhere.

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

Oh please, the Palestinians are not Hashemite Bedouins, Jordan was established as a Hashemite Bedouin (Arabians) state. The country is controlled by and for the Hashemite Bedouins, it has done nothing for Palestinian self-determination. Their attempt to achieve self-determination through violence in a state where they were not the native people was a mistake, on the other hand they were emulating what the Jews did in their native land and two wrongs don't make a right, I agree. Today they make up 50% or more of the population and they don't have many more rights than Arab citizens of Israel have, A fully functional PA in an occupied territory is no different than Vichy France, that's not self-determination, it is just accepting and validating permanent military occupation. In Gaza Israel controls the borders, territorial sea, the air space and collects taxes. Gaza is occupied by Israel as the ICJ has determined. Do I need to go on blowing this Zionist propaganda out of the water?

Well done Monte!

The liar's punishment is, not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.
>>>>> George Bernard Shaw

LOL

 

[montelatici]

nd

Interesting you should bring that up. Since guess which other "people" have been ejected from nearly every place they have settled recently? Got a clue? Black September? Maybe out of Jordan and Lebanon?

Nawww ... Don't think you've considered the irony of the Palis getting ejected from deals where they COULD HAVE had a self-governing possibilities DECADES ago..

The Palestinians have never had the possibility of self government. Even in 1948, more than a third of the Palestinians would have been relegated to be ruled by Jews permanently. All the other "offers" were attempts to get the Palestinians to formally agree to permanent Jewish military occupation and permanent Jewish control of their borders, air space and territorial sea.

That's BS.. They had the ENTIRE West Bank and representation in the Jordanian Parliament and they blew it. They got their asses tossed out of Jordan for launching a military assault on Amman. They also had a fully functional PA in Israel, FULL possession of Gaza, and their OWN local police and services funded by DOZENS of foreign governments and they BLEW THAT.. Need me to go on?

Oh please, the Palestinians are not Hashemite Bedouins, Jordan was established as a Hashemite Bedouin (Arabians) state. The country is controlled by and for the Hashemite Bedouins, it has done nothing for Palestinian self-determination. Their attempt to achieve self-determination through violence in a state where they were not the native people was a mistake, on the other hand they were emulating what the Jews did in their native land and two wrongs don't make a right, I agree. Today they make up 50% or more of the population and they don't have many more rights than Arab citizens of Israel have, A fully functional PA in an occupied territory is no different than Vichy France, that's not self-determination, it is just accepting and validating permanent military occupation. In Gaza Israel controls the borders, territorial sea, the air space and collects taxes. Gaza is occupied by Israel as the ICJ has determined. Do I need to go on blowing this Zionist propaganda out of the water?

Not gonna get into TRIBAL fusses with you in THIS thread. It's a ridiculous assertion that any PEOPLE need to live in a TRIBALLY segregated Zone or country... Kinda kills you're "peace and love" in the HolyLand plan doesn't it? Since we're talking about who's been tossed out of various countries, it needs to pointed out that the Complainants in this thread -- the Palis --- apparently have a HUGE ISSUE in living with other Tribes and cultures... I don't give a damn about every pesky Arab tribe getting their own ******* country... If the Jews had that psychological problem --- they'd need TWELVE countries..

Arabs are people that speak Arabic, they are not all Arabians. Austrians and German-speaking Swiss for example are Germanic, but they are not Germans. The Spanish and other nationalities are Hispanic, but a Colombian or Mexican is not a Spaniard. A Tunisian is an Arab, but barring language is far closer culturally to other people of the Mediterranean than an Arabian. Palestinians have the same right as other people to self determination, it has nothing to do with tribalism. Nor is it a psychological problem with the Palestinians unless any people desiring independence and self-determination have a psychological problem, Jews included.