Dicks and Walmart getting sued HAHA

[Zander]

I doubt it will ever see a court. Dicks and Wal-Mart will quietly capitulate and comply with the state law or they'll drop guns and ammo entirely.

 

[martybegan]

I wonder who is funding the kid's lawsuit? The NRA or the so called gun grabbers?

I't might even be the child of a gun rights supporting trial lawyer who saw some easy meat.

 

[OldLady]

So if the conservative nuts on this forum had any intellectual honesty and consisitency,

they would be supporting Dick's and Walmart,

since the RW consensus on this forum at least is that a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

oops.

Conservatives do believe a retailer can pick and choose what they want to sell.
The law has already determined they don't get to pick and choose who they sell it to.

Right. Unless the retailer wants to choose WHAT to sell based on WHO wants to buy it.

Since Dick's isn't the only place selling guns, why did he go there? Is this another bake-a-cake suit? Who won that one?

Not the baker

Okay, so I've heard the baker is winning and I've heard the baker isn't winning.
Any other helpful information to clear this up?

It depends on the words they use..

Aye caramba.

 

[Hiryuu]

Right. Unless the retailer wants to choose WHAT to sell based on WHO wants to buy it. Then they're be

Well yeah, they can decide not to sell firearms, eliminating their need to determine who they sell to based on age discrimination.
They wouldn't be breaking the law that way.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And there is widespread belief around here that the law is WRONG on that.

Whether or not someone thinks a law is wrong, doesn't change the fact it is law.

Newsflash. People around here argue whether a law is right or wrong all the time.

 

[Vastator]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
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2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

I knew this was coming. And he'll win too. These retailers have only two legal choices... Sell as state law permits. Or don't sell at all...
These retailers need better lawyers. If I had fit the bill, and were conveiniently located I'd have trampled my own mother to be first, collect on this easy payday.

 

[Vastator]

Since Dick's isn't the only place selling guns, why did he go there? Is this another bake-a-cake suit? Who won that one?

Not the seller...

 

[Hiryuu]

Newsflash. People around here argue whether a law is right or wrong all the time.

News Flash: It doesn't matter who argues what around here, the law remains the law.

 

[OldLady]

Right. Unless the retailer wants to choose WHAT to sell based on WHO wants to buy it. Then they're be

Well yeah, they can decide not to sell firearms, eliminating their need to determine who they sell to based on age discrimination.
They wouldn't be breaking the law that way.

Sounds good to me.

 

[Hiryuu]

Sounds good to me.

Same here, it's not that complicated.

If Dick's doesn't want to sell firearms, that is their choice.
They just don't get to discriminate in who they sell firearms to.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Republicans should just change their name to the Socialist Party of America now that they want to tell private businesses what to do.

You got your cake didnt you?

 

[Care4all]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
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2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

So if the conservative nuts on this forum had any intellectual honesty and consisitency,

they would be supporting Dick's and Walmart,

since the RW consensus on this forum at least is that a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

oops.

Your blanket statement is wrong as usual.

First, if the law is in place, it has to be equally applied. Dicks is an actual PA, in a State where age discrimination is illegal.

2nd, I for one support PA laws when applied to actual PA's. My issue has always been applying them to any business at all.

So you want to pretend that most righties on this forum don't support the right of a business to refuse service to anyone for any reason?

lol, good one.

They did not do it on an individual basis, they made a corporate wide policy, and made everyone aware of it....

So that makes it a little different.....

Also, age discrimination laws are there and written to protect the elderly.....not certain about the young???

This suit will be interesting......

 

[TNHarley]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
-----------
2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

So if the conservative nuts on this forum had any intellectual honesty and consisitency,

they would be supporting Dick's and Walmart,

since the RW consensus on this forum at least is that a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

oops.

Your blanket statement is wrong as usual.

First, if the law is in place, it has to be equally applied. Dicks is an actual PA, in a State where age discrimination is illegal.

2nd, I for one support PA laws when applied to actual PA's. My issue has always been applying them to any business at all.

So you want to pretend that most righties on this forum don't support the right of a business to refuse service to anyone for any reason?

lol, good one.

They did not do it on an individual basis, they made a corporate wide policy, and made everyone aware of it....

So that makes it a little different.....

Also, age discrimination laws are there and written to protect the elderly.....not certain about the young???

This suit will be interesting......

sounds pretty simple to me
It is an unlawful practice for any person to deny full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation in violation of this section. [Formerly 30.670; 2003 c.521 §1; 2005 c.131 §1; 2007 c.100 §5; 2015 c.614 §27]

 

[martybegan]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
-----------
2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

So if the conservative nuts on this forum had any intellectual honesty and consisitency,

they would be supporting Dick's and Walmart,

since the RW consensus on this forum at least is that a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

oops.

Your blanket statement is wrong as usual.

First, if the law is in place, it has to be equally applied. Dicks is an actual PA, in a State where age discrimination is illegal.

2nd, I for one support PA laws when applied to actual PA's. My issue has always been applying them to any business at all.

So you want to pretend that most righties on this forum don't support the right of a business to refuse service to anyone for any reason?

lol, good one.

They did not do it on an individual basis, they made a corporate wide policy, and made everyone aware of it....

So that makes it a little different.....

Also, age discrimination laws are there and written to protect the elderly.....not certain about the young???

This suit will be interesting......

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

The reason you can discriminate with regards to alcohol and in some places tobacco is because the laws prohibit sale to those under 21.

There are no such law in Oregon with regards to firearms and ammunition.

 

[Hiryuu]

They did not do it on an individual basis, they made a corporate wide policy, and made everyone aware of it....

So that makes it a little different.....

Also, age discrimination laws are there and written to protect the elderly.....not certain about the young???

This suit will be interesting......

Age discrimination laws do not indicate an age.
They simply state that you cannot discriminate on the basis of age (well, if you are a private business, the government can).

 

[Care4all]

Like a Hooters hiring only young female waitresses.....

Was legal, and not discrimination against men or the elderly, it was their business model.....

 

[bodecea]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
-----------
2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

Excellent...let the country see the gun pushers in all their glory.

 

[tyroneweaver]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...420060cb7bd_story.html?utm_term=.aad35c23c783
PORTLAND, Ore. — An Oregon man filed suits Monday claiming Dick’s Sporting Goods and Walmart discriminated against the 20-year-old when they refused to sell him a rifle.

Dick’s and Walmart restricted gun sales to adults 21 and older in the wake of the Florida high school massacre. The 19-year-old accused in the school slaying bought the AR-15 used in the attack legally.

Oregon law allows residents to buy shotguns or rifles starting at age 18.

Watson is asking judges to force Dick’s and Walmart “to stop unlawfully discriminating against 18, 19, and 20 year-old customers at all Oregon locations.” Additionally, he is asking for unspecified punitive damages.
-----------
2015 ORS 659A.403¹
Discrimination in place of public accommodation prohibited
Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, all persons within the jurisdiction of this state are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities and privileges of any place of public accommodation, without any distinction, discrimination or restriction on account of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status or age if the individual is of age, as described in this section, or older.
Looks like those fascist PA laws are coming back to haunt some people

So if the conservative nuts on this forum had any intellectual honesty and consisitency,

they would be supporting Dick's and Walmart,

since the RW consensus on this forum at least is that a business should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

oops.

Mean you can't see the irony and hypocrisy on this?
Sprinkled with a little sarasm from the right?

These store have singled out the 2nd amendment for their wrath.
I dont know if you can do that.

 

[Care4all]

They actually can be used to protect the young, as in cases where some car rental companies wouldn't rent to anyone under 25.

Is there a law in Oregon that makes it illegal to rent a car to someone under 25?

 

[Hiryuu]

Like a Hooters hiring only young female waitresses.....

Was legal, and not discrimination against men or the elderly, it was their business model.....

You make a decent point, but businesses are not required to hire someone solely based on anti-discrimination laws.
Like the fact a bio-tech company is not required to hire high school dropout because he is gay.