DHS report says 2 agents fired weapons in Alex Pretti shooting

[JoeB131]

He's not bright enough to connect the dots.

No dots to connect.

The police ignored illegal actions by gun-toting nuts.

But they shot Pretti because he tried to protect a woman they shoved to the ground.

Even the Trump administration is backing away from "this was a good shoot".

They've suspended the officers, fired Bovino, and sent in Homan to smooth things over.

 

[Lesh]

The point is none of them got into a physical altercation with LE like Pretti did with hidden weapons.

That is what got Pretti shot.

So if you carry a gun and “encounter police” (traffic stop… witness a crime .. whatever), you get shot?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Killer Kyle certainly did

How?

 

[JoeB131]

If true, what relevance does this have regarding Pretti's decisions and actions the day he was killed?

Nothing Pretty did warranted shooting him in the back 10 times.

 

[Lesh]

Nothing Pretty did warranted shooting him in the back 10 times.

Bottom line

Mike drop

 

[Lockback]

Killer Kyle certainly did

No he didn't aside from trying to turn himself in before yet another stupid leftist came along and took him on and got a 5.56mm surprise which ended his worthless life.

 

[OODA_Loop]

They've suspended the officers, fired Bovino, and sent in Homan to smooth things over.

Officers are put paid administrative leave during use of force investigations in every department in the nation.

 

[JoeB131]

Officers are put paid administrative leave during use of force investigations in every department in the nation.

So where is Ross's suspension?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I think you are confused.

Rittenhouse wasn't convicted.
The McCloskeys were never put on trial and plead guilty to a misdemeanor (which was later pardoned by the governor)
The nuts at the Michigan Capitol weren't arrested at all.

The point is, none of these people, who were brandishing weapons (and one of whom shot three people) were shot by police.

Pretti wasn't even brandishing his weapon. It had been taken from him before he was shot 10 times.

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Rittenhouse was acquitted by due process. Just because you didn't like what happened, doesn't mean shit.







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[OODA_Loop]

So if you carry a gun and “encounter police” (traffic stop… witness a crime .. whatever), you get shot?

If you fight with them like Pretti did. Highly likely.

Carry a gun and obey the law like millions do everyday. Not so much

 

[Lesh]

If you fight with them like Pretti did. Highly likely.

Carry a gun and obey the law like millions do everyday. Not so much

Sounds like it’s a very dangerous thing to do.

Sounds like any encounter with LE could end up with you dead if you carry

 

[OODA_Loop]

So where is Ross's suspension?

He is too. Do you ever know what your talking about before opining so assuredly?

Federal Agents Who Killed Alex Pretti, Renee Good Have Been Placed On Leave​

Federal Agents Who Killed Alex Pretti, Renee Good Have Been Placed On Leave

Finally.

www.huffpost.com

 

[OODA_Loop]

Sounds like it’s a very dangerous thing to do.

Sounds like any encounter with LE could end up with you dead if you carry

It has the potential that's why one has to be non-confrontational and go out of the way to obey the law while carrying.

It is taught in every concealed carry class as the Golden Rule.

 

[bdtex]

As the mist clears a bit..the first reports are that 2 agents discharged their weapons after an agent shouted, 'Gun!' several times.
At no time is it alleged that Pretti drew his weapon, at no time is it alleged the Pretti even tried to draw his weapon.
In fact, video footage shows an agent taking Pretti's gun BEFORE he was shot.

DHS report says 2 agents fired weapons in Alex Pretti shooting

DHS report sent to the House Oversight Committee says two federal agents shot Alex Pretti and does not say that Pretti drew his gun.

abcnews.go.com

Minneapolis shooting video analysis details killing of Alex Pretti

Alex Pretti shooting follows fatal ICE shooting of Renee Good weeks earlier. Minneapolis gun laws allowed Pretti to carry a weapon. See the timeline.

www.usatoday.com

Here's a second-by-second breakdown of another video, seen below, that was posted to social media by Drop Site News. All times approximate.

0:10 Pretti can be seen holding up his phone, apparently filming an agent interacting with two women on the street.

0:12 Pretti steps into the street to wave a car past while continuing to film.

0:27 An agent is heard yelling at one of the women and approaches them. The video points toward the ground.

The agent can be seen shoving the woman in another video.

0:33 Pretti can be seen apparently leading the woman away.

0:35 The agent shoves the second woman, who falls to the ground.

0:36 Pretti steps between the agent and the second woman on the ground. He is sprayed with what appears to be a chemical irritant and is shoved by the first agent as other agents approach.

0:40 The agent continues to spray Pretti with irritant.

0:47 Pretti and the woman on the ground are separated by the agents and Pretti is held to the ground.

0:59 There are at least six agents present as Pretti is held down on his hands and knees. One appears to strike at him repeatedly with an object in the direction of his head.

1:00 Someone can be heard yelling that he has a gun.

1:01 One agent can be seen drawing his gun.

1:02 A shot rings out. Then three more in quick succession. Then another.

1:06 The agents back away and unload additional shots at Pretti as he lies on the ground.

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/experiments/storytelling-embed/master/uploaded_stuff/takes-gunv2-opt.mp4

They pumped 9 slugs into him.

 

[JoeB131]

Rittenhouse was acquitted by due process. Just because you didn't like what happened, doesn't mean shit.

So was OJ.

Didn't make it right then, either.

It shows how flawed our justice system is that you can get away with murder if you have enough money for lawyers.

But I wasn't arguing about what happened at the travesty of a trial.

I was talking about- wait for it - why the police didn't shoot him on the spot when he was brandishing a gun after he had just murdered two people. By your logic, they should have totally done that.

If you fight with them like Pretti did. Highly likely.

Carry a gun and obey the law like millions do everyday. Not so much

So you have a Second Amendment right to carry a gun, but the police can still shoot you at their discretion.

Right.

Do you guys have any sense of consistency?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It has the potential that's why one has to be non-confrontational and go out of the way to obey the law while carrying.

It is taught in every concealed carry class as the Golden Rule.

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Absolutely. Anyone with a half a brain knows you don't get confrontational with LE when you're carrying, unless you are insane and want to die.

Left cult prove over and over they don't know the first common sense rules of firearms use.

And these are the losers who insist on leading us to war.



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[Lockback]

No dots to connect.

The police ignored illegal actions by gun-toting nuts.

But they shot Pretti because he tried to protect a woman they shoved to the ground.

Even the Trump administration is backing away from "this was a good shoot".

They've suspended the officers, fired Bovino, and sent in Homan to smooth things over.

The police did not "ignore illegal actions by gun-toting nuts". That's full Communist Conspiracy bullshit rattling inside your empty noggin.
They shot Pretti because he stuck his nose into an arrest where he had no business and was carrying a gun to boot. Stupid asshole.
Trump is smart. He's a pragmatist. There may be a slight change in direction here but the basic mission of rounding up illegal aliens and deporting them will not change one iota.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I was talking about- wait for it - why the police didn't shoot him on the spot when he was brandishing a gun after he had just murdered two people. By your logic, they should have totally done that.



So you have a Second Amendment right to carry a gun, but the police can still shoot you at their discretion.

So Police conspired with Rittenhouse immediately after the shooting to let him go?

The Police will likely shoot you if you get into armed physical confrontation with them.

Million of concealed weapons holders interact with police and don't get shot. They obey the law.

In your sage wisdom you so freely share here, is there anything you might counsel future armed protesters on?

 

[JoeB131]

The police did not "ignore illegal actions by gun-toting nuts". That's full Communist Conspiracy bullshit rattling inside your empty noggin.
They shot Pretti because he stuck his nose into an arrest where he had no business and was carrying a gun to boot. Stupid asshole.

They shot Pretti because they suck at their jobs.

Trump is smart. He's a pragmatist. There may be a slight change in direction here but the basic mission of rounding up illegal aliens and deporting them will not change one iota.

Actually, he's already backing out of MN. His deportation numbers are only about on par with Biden's.

Most of the people he's deporting will be welcomed back by the next administration, probably with a nice fruit basket.

 

[Lockback]

They shot Pretti because they suck at their jobs.





Actually, he's already backing out of MN. His deportation numbers are only about on par with Biden's.

That's because they're heading to California ...

Most of the people he's deporting will be welcomed back by the next administration, probably with a nice fruit basket.

Probably.
Which will lead to civil war.
Hope you're ready.