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[Freewill]

"$4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010."

A few more billion then we are talking about real money come back then.

 

[Peach]

Sure Samson, FreeWill, Ryan hasn't taken credit, Murray doesn't want the 1% cut restored, Ryan DOES Haapy 4th!

 

[NYcarbineer]

No.

The bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

That would be 'yes', not 'no'. You can't be a co-owner and a non-owner at the same time.

You wanted to be clear?

I was: THE bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

It is not "Paul Ryan's Bill"

No smoke and mirror bullshit tactics are necessary to validate your argument.

The OP was trying to blame the Democrats for the cuts. Why aren't you crying about his misrepresentation?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So tell me if I have this correct:

1. the OP posts an article about a bill from December 2013.

2 the bill passes in Feb. 2014.

3. the OP's *****, in Jul 2014, is that the Democrats blocked the bill.

 

[Samson]

That would be 'yes', not 'no'. You can't be a co-owner and a non-owner at the same time.

You wanted to be clear?

I was: THE bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

It is not "Paul Ryan's Bill"

No smoke and mirror bullshit tactics are necessary to validate your argument.

The OP was trying to blame the Democrats for the cuts. Why aren't you crying about his misrepresentation?

Try reading a few of my posts before you put your foot more firmly into your mouth.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You wanted to be clear?

I was: THE bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

It is not "Paul Ryan's Bill"

No smoke and mirror bullshit tactics are necessary to validate your argument.

The OP was trying to blame the Democrats for the cuts. Why aren't you crying about his misrepresentation?

Try reading a few of my posts before you put your foot more firmly into your mouth.

I think we both have our feet in our respective mouths at this point.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

GERMANS BOMB PEARL HARBOR!!!

Congress votes to repeal military pension cuts | Reuters

 

[daveman]

Sorry, but The Far Left Taliban read the article in the OP, not the opinion of the poster.

The bill had nothing to do with "illegal welfare."

The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did. Do keep up.

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did. Do keep up.

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

 

[Samson]

The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did. Do keep up.

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

Apparently you don't have the mental capacity to recall the content of your OP.

Try again, Sparky.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

...and let me, the bill that passed was an up or down vote on the House bill (you know, the REPUBLICAN house) that Harry Reid ALLOWED.

Senate reverses pension cut | TheHill

 

[NYcarbineer]

I agree with you.. but I can't see it on the back of our Veterans when it comes to their personal care. I'm with House.. close those ******* bases outside of American soil which we have no business in being in the first place.

Who said anything about not giving Veterans personal care?

What about the personal care of taxpayers?

the deal would cut $6 billion from military retirement over 10 years, and another $6 billion from federal civilian retirement by forcing new hires with fewer than five years' federal service to contribute an additional 1.3 percent of salary toward their pensions.

"We think it's only fair that hard-working taxpayers who paid for the benefits that our federal employees receive are treated fairly as well," said Ryan. "We also believe it's important that military families as well as non-military families are treated equally and fair."

When civilian families shed their blood in some God-forsaken land thousands of miles away, when they spend months and years away from loved ones, not being able to watch their own children's most precious moments.. When civilians sleep on the ground and go days without a shower.. when they watch their closest friend whom they call "brother" get blown to bits, then and only then will I agree to tell that Veteran or the widow of a Soldier, "Too bad.. I know we promised you that we would live up to our end of this contract, thanks for your husbands sacrifice, but sorry.. we have to cut your benefits." No thanks.

Then let's limit the big ticket benefits to the small percentage of military veterans who actually go through all that.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This is very simple: vets vote republican and anything construed as 'not white' is segregated and pandered to by democrats.

 

[daveman]

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

Whoopty-shit. I'm talking about the proposed amendment that Democrats shot down, dumbass.

 

[daveman]

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

Apparently you don't have the mental capacity to recall the content of your OP.

Try again, Sparky.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

"The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill."

 

[daveman]

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

...and let me, the bill that passed was an up or down vote on the House bill (you know, the REPUBLICAN house) that Harry Reid ALLOWED.

Senate reverses pension cut | TheHill

"The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill."

 

[depotoo]

Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

All Democrats but one voted to illegally give money to criminals instead of preventing cuts to veteran pensions.

Ryan is immaterial. The Daily Caller is immaterial

Defend this action by Democrats, without whom it would have failed.

Should I quote Ryan again?

Only 9 Republicans voted for HJ 59.
All Democrats voted for it.

 

[Peach]

I will never agree with any bill that harms the very people who gave your ass the freedom to spew your BS in this thread in the first place.. find the ******* cuts to authorize what our Veterans need in ******* Corporate welfare programs, etc.. but NOT ever on the backs of America's veterans.

Ah, I see.

Conservative, as long as it doesn't interfere with programs you cherry pick.



How convenient.

How liberal of you.. Americans should ALWAYS "cherry pick" the welfare of those who die in your place and mine.. It's a price that can never be repaid.. it is the least we can do to live up to what these men and women were promised.

On this issue we agree.

 

[Peach]

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

...and let me, the bill that passed was an up or down vote on the House bill (you know, the REPUBLICAN house) that Harry Reid ALLOWED.

Senate reverses pension cut | TheHill

These three to head out:

The only senators to vote against the bill were Tom Carper (D-Del.), Dan Coats (R-Ind.) and Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.).

But cuts for future enlistees stand.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did."

The proposed amendment was the subject of the OP...not the bill.

Are you being deliberately stupid, or is it natural?

The bill passed 6 months ago.

Whoopty-shit. I'm talking about the proposed amendment that Democrats shot down, dumbass.

So help us here. What is this story about?

Reid says he'll allow a vote on Ayotte's amendment | TheHill