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Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

Read more: Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

So?

Explain EXACTLY:

How would closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants block a vote?


Why the hell are you asking me? I'm not in Congress-- but being you obviously didn't read the whole ******* article..


passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Read more: Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

So, you really don't understand what happened.

Do you really want me to 'splain it to you?

Frankly it seems you're more interested in justifying your cherry-picked position regarding protecting your pet programs rather than knowing exactly what occurred.
 
So?

Explain EXACTLY:

How would closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants block a vote?


Why the hell are you asking me? I'm not in Congress-- but being you obviously didn't read the whole ******* article..


passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Read more: Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

So, you really don't understand what happened.

Do you really want me to 'splain it to you?

Frankly it seems you're more interested in justifying your cherry-picked position regarding protecting your pet programs rather than knowing exactly what occurred.

Actually I understand it quite well.. I even noted it for you. It's obvious you don't know what **** you're talking about though so quit wasting my time with your circus one man freak show.
 
Well, yes, but mainly just to Kosh.

Does that make me EVIL?

I feel so honored to be such a target for the far left Taliban..

Just goes to show that the truth hurts!

You should feel very special.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Note: Honored = special to this far left Taliban member.

Next they will ask me to prove a negative..

Oh well too bad for the far left Taliban they did not get their way..
 
Yes that would hurt and probably a very valid step.

Especially about the salaries in Washington..

its either that or raise everyone's taxes 30%. Are you libs who are paying zero taxes ready to step up and pay your fair share of 30%? No entity, public or private, can continue deficit spending forever.

No it can not and until we get enough people willing to actually deal with the problem in Washington it will never be corrected.

have you told obama and reid? have you told hillary? how about your senators and reps? have you demanded that they balance the budget?

We, the people, can fix this. But only if we put the fear of losing their jobs in the mind of every politician in DC.
 
I feel so honored to be such a target for the far left Taliban..

Just goes to show that the truth hurts!

You should feel very special.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Note: Honored = special to this far left Taliban member.

Next they will ask me to prove a negative..

Oh well too bad for the far left Taliban they did not get their way..

The Far Left Taliban would demand you pay for your own medication for being painfully special.
 
This thread has denigrated in to Mickey's Playhouse on steroids..
 
Why the hell are you asking me? I'm not in Congress-- but being you obviously didn't read the whole ******* article..


passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Read more: Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

So, you really don't understand what happened.

Do you really want me to 'splain it to you?

Frankly it seems you're more interested in justifying your cherry-picked position regarding protecting your pet programs rather than knowing exactly what occurred.

Actually I understand it quite well.. I even noted it for you. It's obvious you don't know what **** you're talking about though so quit wasting my time with your circus one man freak show.

But you just can't seem to explain it.....

:eusa_hand:


You understand it "QUITE WELL!" .....yeah......just wasting your time 'splain'n stuff an' all.

Gotcha.
 
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Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller
Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

“Removing this unbalanced treatment of our military retirees ought to be one of the key actions we should take before this legislation moves forward. In fact, greater savings than this can be achieved by passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens,” Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions said Monday, announcing his co-sponsorship of Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker’s amendment to restore the military retirement benefits Monday.

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

Tuesday evening, Sessions attempted to force Majority Leader Harry Reid allow amendments the budget agreement.

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

SessionsÂ’ motion failed on a 46 to 54 party-line vote, with North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan crossing the aisle as the lone Democrat to vote with the Republicans.

“ReidÂ’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.​



“Reid’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.


LOL, WELL AS LONG AS SUCH AN UNBIASED SOURCES SAYS IT'S TRUE IT MUST BE RIGHT?

12/18/2013 LOL

Murray argued that adding more amendments would jeopardize the carefully crafted bill and noted that, given the two-year time frame Democrats and Republicans could continue to work together to find savings in the future.

The budget deal, which has already passed in the House, is expected to pass in the Senate Wednesday.
So, you support cutting veterans' pensions and giving money illegally to criminal aliens.

Not at all surprising, really.
 
Samson, the foreign military bases thing was my subject, not that of the OP.

The OP was about cutting veteran benefits in favor of welfare for illegal immigrants.

Whole different ballgame. My apologies for the derail.


What about the highlighted above is difficult to grasp? ILLEGAL welfare versus taking care of America's veterans??

Sorry, but The Far Left Taliban read the article in the OP, not the opinion of the poster.

The bill had nothing to do with "illegal welfare."
The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did. Do keep up.
 
Typical Democrat bullshit. we are being invaded and all they concern themselves with is more votes and welfare dependency.
 
What about the highlighted above is difficult to grasp? ILLEGAL welfare versus taking care of America's veterans??

Sorry, but The Far Left Taliban read the article in the OP, not the opinion of the poster.

The bill had nothing to do with "illegal welfare."
The proposed amendment that the poster highlighted did. Do keep up.

The Bill Did NOT Include Anything To Do with Illegal Welfare.

Thanks for finally confirming.

:eusa_clap::eusa_clap::eusa_clap:
 
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Next, when was it decided that military pensions should be immune to cuts in a budget that clearly needs cutting?
 
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Let's be clear. This was Paul Ryan's bill to cut the pensions in the first place, am I correct?

No.

The bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

That would be 'yes', not 'no'. You can't be a co-owner and a non-owner at the same time.

You wanted to be clear?

I was: THE bill is co authored by Patty Murray and Paul Ryan.

It is not "Paul Ryan's Bill"

No smoke and mirror bullshit tactics are necessary to validate your argument.
 

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