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They also were a transit point for Steyr .50 cal sniper rifles getting to the enemy in Iraq, despite assurances they wouldn't do so.
The Iranians are bad actors. The idea of them with a bomb is too scary.

The US and Israel have bombs, why isn't that scary?

Iran does not have a history of imperialism or state sponsored terrorism.


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Are you fucking out of your mind? Or are you just completely ignorant? It's one of those two.
Does the name "Hezbollah" mean anything to you? Any idea who sponsors that? What they do?
Please. Your credibility here is at an all time low.
 
They also were a transit point for Steyr .50 cal sniper rifles getting to the enemy in Iraq, despite assurances they wouldn't do so.
The Iranians are bad actors. The idea of them with a bomb is too scary.

The US and Israel have bombs, why isn't that scary?

Iran does not have a history of imperialism or state sponsored terrorism.


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Does the name "Hezbollah" mean anything to you?

Are you fucking out of your mind? Or are you just completely ignorant? It's one of those two.

Does the name "Israel" mean anything to you? Any idea who sponsors that? What they do?


Please. Your credibility here is at an all time low.


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Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?
 
Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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Oh boy. Get out of town with that crap.
You have zero, no, credibility with me anymore. I can't take you seriously.
 
Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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i dont care one way or the other regarding the Israel/Palestine problems but seeing how hezbollah was behind the Marine barracks bombing in 1983 it would be nice to see them decimated.
 
How does missles in CZ and Poland make the world a safer place, exactly?

Does Alqada have missles?

Is Russia threatening to blow up Poland and CZ?

It's not Russia, nor Al Qaeda, rather Iran or other rogue power.

other rogue power.

Is this "other" to be named at a future date. Will there be a special draft for the rights to this new enemy?:lol:
 
Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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i dont care one way or the other regarding the Israel/Palestine problems but seeing how hezbollah was behind the Marine barracks bombing in 1983 it would be nice to see them decimated.

No, that's impossible. Hezbollah ismade up of Lebanese patriots defending the homeland from Israeli aggression. At least if you believe the chief dim bulb of this board.
 
Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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Oh boy. Get out of town with that crap.
You have zero, no, credibility with me anymore. I can't take you seriously.



You Can't Handle The Truth



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Israel is a democratic parliamentary republic in the Middle East that grants voting rights to all its citizens, including Arabs. It has a seat at the UN. It has never engaged in a war of conquest, only intervening to protect itself.
Do you see any similarity to Hezbollah? Or have you even figured out what Hezbollah is yet and who is behind them?

Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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i dont care one way or the other regarding the Israel/Palestine problems but seeing how hezbollah was behind the Marine barracks bombing in 1983 it would be nice to see them decimated.

WHY were the marines in Lebanon?


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Bullshit.

Israel is an illegal enclave in Palestine. It was formed by slaughtering , terrorizing and maiming thousands of Palestinians. It is one of the most dangerous sponsors of worldwide terrorism.

Hezbollah is composed of Lebanese Patriots ready and determined to stop Israel's expansionism and imperialism.


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i dont care one way or the other regarding the Israel/Palestine problems but seeing how hezbollah was behind the Marine barracks bombing in 1983 it would be nice to see them decimated.

WHY were the marines in Lebanon?


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so as a person with the statue of liberty as an avatar are you saying they got what they deserved?
it was a stupid peace keeping mission where the hezbollah scumbags found some imbecile to drive a bomb filled truck into the barracks area and blown it up. if they hadnt made themselves an enemy to my country i might have more sympathy for them, instead i want to see them destroyed.
 
do you bitch about all the money we spend in Mexico and on illegals,? how about all the money we waste in Africa?

yes, i am a bit of an isolationist,i support tax dollars aiding Americans in America and not foreigners in foreign lands. So do you favor tax dollars going to protect foreigners? If so why? And why would you support tax money benefitting foreigners but not support tax dollars protecting Americans(healthcare)?

Can someone please expalin to me why SOME people see this as a BAD thing?

There are too many countries on this planet to fight them all. We MADE allies and signed treaties so that we didn't have to watch all the countries so closely. Some have proven to be friends and help us maintain peace in the world (as we have done for the most part since WWII). The USSR was not a good country. It oppressed its citizens and swallowed other nations behind its iron curtain; doing horrible things to those peoples. When the Berlin wall was torn down and that border allowed more travel, the USSR tolerated some of the confiscated nations to declare themselves independent (with the knowledge that they could take them back).
When these nations started trading more with western Europe and the western hemisphere, Russia again showed its covetess nature. Only with western support can these countries become truly independent (more rights for everyone).
Iran, in the mean time has been cozying up to Russia (presumably for arms and technology on nukes). Before you go into the whole Iran wants nukes for peace crap, ask yourself: Why would a country that is sitting on one of the largest oil reservoirs in the world, that could basically supply them with relatively CHEAP electricity and energy until the end of the world want to go thru all the extra trouble of designing, preparing safety "everything", and building super expensive structures staffed with specially educated personnel, that will require special, consistant maintenance for something they could have had at a tiny fraction of the costs? Where was I, oh, yes, if Russia wants to hurt one of its old "satelite countries", it can whisper into Iran's ear and let them do the dirty work (in exchange for some paltry favor).
At that point, the fallout will travel thru the atmosphere to this country, probably during a repub's term, when all the libs will scream: why didn't you protect us instead of blowing all that money on sex change operations covered under Obamacare?
At that point our defense will have been completely depleted, no one will want to work for any intelligence agency in the country (thanks to this administration's selective justice), and there will be no one to stand up to all the tyrants that were allowed to take over because "it wasn't in our country". That is how our country will fall.
When you tell someone that your country will do something, the gov must back that agreement, otherwise nothing your gov says has any value (you have just become a petty country going thru and unending chain of coups). Our allies need us as much as we need them. We might seem like the big kid on the block, but without support, we will be out-numbered and surrounded. Who will fight then? The libs? When have the libs ever stood up to any bully?
Do you get it?
 
i dont care one way or the other regarding the Israel/Palestine problems but seeing how hezbollah was behind the Marine barracks bombing in 1983 it would be nice to see them decimated.

WHY were the marines in Lebanon?


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so as a person with the statue of liberty as an avatar are you saying they got what they deserved?
it was a stupid peace keeping mission where the hezbollah scumbags found some imbecile to drive a bomb filled truck into the barracks area and blown it up. if they hadnt made themselves an enemy to my country i might have more sympathy for them, instead i want to see them destroyed.

I have swore to defend the CONSTITUTION against foreign and DOMESTIC enemies.

I owe no loyalty to the Reagan era, the GOP or democrats.

You should blame the Reagan administration not me.


"The suicide truck attack on October 23 stunned the world. Yet, as Colin Powell, who was then a major general, later observed in his autobiography: "Since [the Muslims] could not reach the battleship, they found a more vulnerable target, the exposed Marines at the airport."


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The leftist media spin is that the current crisis in North Asia is the result of George W. Bush calling Pyongyang a member of the 'axis of evil.' In reality, the soft-line appeasement policy taken by Clinton against North Korea and China is what has led us to this point.

For example, former Clinton adviser Paul Begala, now serving as a talking head on CNN, claimed that the Clinton administration contained the threat from North Korea. Clearly, Mr. Begala missed the 1990s.

Of course, Mr. Begala simply forgot that Clinton's military chief of staff testified in 1998 that North Korea did not have an active ballistic missile program. One week later the North Koreans launched a missile over Japan that landed off the Alaska coast.

During the early Clinton years, hard-liners and so-called conservative hawks advocated a pre-emptive strike to halt North Korea's nuclear weapons development before it could field an atomic bomb. Instead of taking the hard line, President Clinton elected to rely on former President Jimmy Carter and decided to appease the Marxist-Stalinist dictatorship.

Carter met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang and returned to America waving a piece of paper and declaring peace in our time. Kim, according to Carter, had agreed to stop his nuclear weapons development.

The Clinton appeasement program for North Korea included hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor. However, the agreement was flawed and lacked even the most informal means of verification.

In return, Kim elected to starve his people while using the American aid to build uranium bombs. The lowest estimate is that Kim starved to death over 1 million of his own people, even with the U.S. aid program.

Axis of Evil and Friends

North Korea was not left all alone in its effort to obtain nuclear weapons. North Korea relied heavily on China, its closest ally, to assist in its all-out effort to obtain the atomic bomb.

Beijing elected to covertly aid its North Asian ally by proliferation. China allowed Pakistan to send nuclear technology purchased from Beijing to North Korea in exchange for No Dong missile technology.

Beijing provided Pakistan with its nuclear weapons technology, including an operational atomic bomb design. Pakistan is now providing North Korea with equipment and engineering to assist in its bomb-making efforts.

The fact remains that North Korea acquired some key equipment for its nuclear weapons program from Pakistan in 1998. The key equipment, including a working gas centrifuge used to enrich uranium, was shipped to Pyongyang in the coffin of the murdered wife of a North Korean diplomat.

Beijing's indirect assistance includes allowing Pakistani C-130 cargo flights over China to Pyongyang that carry key equipment for nuclear weapons production. The flights return to Pakistan with North Korean No Dong missile parts.

Missiles for Nukes

Pakistan also benefited from the trade in weaponry. The missiles-for-nukes trade gave Pakistan an operational means to deliver its atomic bombs.

Pakistan has since successfully test-fired and deployed its own version of the No Dong missile, called the Ghauri. The North Korean-designed missile has a range of nearly 900 miles and can cover virtually all of India, Pakistan's rival in Southwest Asia.

The ultimate irony here is that the North Korean No Dong and Tae Po Dong missiles are based on technology given to Pyongyang by China. In 1994, the Wall Street Journal revealed that Chinese-made CSS-2 missile technology had found its way into North Korean hands.

China has also allowed North Korea to ship SCUD missiles through its territory for Middle Eastern customers. According to a Canadian undercover operative, North Korean agents moved dismantled SCUD missiles through China into Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran.

The allegations proved to be correct because U.S. satellites were able to follow Chinese-made M-11 missiles bound for Pakistan over the same land route in 2000. The illegal export of M-11 missiles brought swift sanctions against Beijing by the Bush administration.

In recent months China has been much more overt about assisting Pyongyang with its nuclear weapons program. In 2002, China sold Pyongyang a large shipment of tributyl phosphate, a key chemical used to extract plutonium and uranium from spent fuel rods for atomic bombs.

U.S. Pressure on Asian Allies

In contrast, the U.S. repeatedly told India, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan that they should not develop nuclear weapons. The U.S. position was that the no one had the right to bring a new arms race to Asia.

The U.S. also backed up this policy by placing severe restrictions on the export of nuclear and ballistic missile technology to India, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. The trade agreements also had teeth built into them in case U.S. technology was abused.

For example, when India developed and tested its nuclear bomb, the U.S. responded with hefty sanctions and a diplomatic freeze that is just now beginning to thaw.

Compared to the strict U.S. policy, China did not discourage its client states, North Korea and Pakistan, from developing nuclear weapons. Instead, China has overtly and covertly assisted both nations to develop and deploy active weapons upon working delivery systems.

Nature abhors a vacuum, especially in the case of nuclear weapons. The whole equation of Asian defense has changed overnight. As a result of China's nuclear proliferation, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan may now have to follow Pyongyang's lead and begin their own atomic weapons programs. That decision will be made in Tokyo, Seoul and Taipei, not in Washington.

It should shock no one, including the China lobby and DNC apologists, that Beijing will continue to support North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

However, some fools continue to be suckered by Beijing's obvious ploy to dominate Asia. The fools' hope that China will restrain Pyongyang continues to echo off the lips of the leftist media, as if by simply wishing it were true will make it so.

The fact remains that Bill Clinton's legacy is an unstable world filled with hungry dictators and nuclear weapons. The result of the Clinton appeasement policy toward China is a new arms race.

North Korea Nukes Clinton Legacy
 
Lets just remove ourselves from the entire Middle East. If we have to keep buying their oil than so be it. We can keep buying their oil without having such a massive presence over there. We don't understand those people and they don't understand us. We have absolutely nothing in common with those people other than oil. Israel can remain an Allie but i see no reason why the Palestinians can't be our allies as well. We have done way too much meddling over there and around the World. Let the Israelis and the Palestinians sort out their own differences. No more failed "World's Referee" and "World's Policeman" policies. The problem with our Foreign Policy overall is that both the Neo-Cons and the Socialists fully agree on aggressive Globalism by way of aggressive foreign interventionism. They really do come together on that issue even though they don't like to admit it. We need real change in our Foreign Policy but unfortunately that's never going to happen as long the Neo-Cons & Socialists are dictating our foreign policy. We really can be friends with the entire World. No more dangerous & failed Foreign Entanglements. That's what our Founding Fathers really intended.
 
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Socialists/Neo-Cons? Same thing in the end. I think more people are beginning to understand this. Hopey Changey merely = George Bush on Steroids in the end.
 

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