AntonToo
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Was Trump running the country in 2020 or do you imagine someone else?our economy was the best in decades when Trump was running the country
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Was Trump running the country in 2020 or do you imagine someone else?our economy was the best in decades when Trump was running the country
I was going to ask the same thing:He wasn't "going to", HE ACTUALLY DID IT.
Mulveney executed the hold up at OMB that Trump wanted and GOA ruled that hold illegal.
It's in black and white and not subject to your spin bullshit:
In the summer of 2019, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) withheld from obligation funds appropriated to the Department of Defense (DOD) for security assistance to Ukraine. In order to withhold the funds, OMB issued a series of nine apportionment schedules with footnotes that made all unobligated balances unavailable for obligation.
Office of Management and Budget—Withholding of Ukraine Security Assistance
In the summer of 2019, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) withheld from obligation funds appropriated to the Department of Defense (DOD) for...www.gao.gov
What part of that don't you get?
Was Trump running the country in 2020 or do you imagine someone else?
Your economy was crashed, 8 million people fell into poverty, and 500,000 people died in the pandemic, when Trump was running the country. Illegal border crosssing rose to their highest levels in 20 years two years after he took office.
The budget deficit had ballooned to unheard of levels, your trade deficit had increased from $735 billion in 2016, to $850 billion in 2019 - before the pandemic, and he'd suffered the biggest mid-Terms defeat in modern Presidential history, off-shoring was continuing unabated, and close to 100,000 people per year are dying in a opioid epidemic, and you said the country was in "great shape".
If your country was in "great shape", why wasn't Trump re-elected in a landslide? Why did he lose the House in the mid-Terms, despite the heavy gerrymandering of the districts? Why were millions of people marching in the streets despite the pandemic, if everything was so hunky dory.
So the answer is, "yes, Trump was running the country in 2020."Back to lying again, what should I expect from a lying lib.
2020 is when we got hit with a worldwide plague that had nothing to do with the President or any policy he made. If you're going to lie, at least lie about something most people don't know about. It makes you look stupid when you lie about something everybody in the world knows about.
Democrats are not “commies”. Biden doesn’t have dementia. Hillary is not a crook.
And yet is still a billion miles away from what Communism is...The left is the closest thing we have to communism in the US.
No, just the facts ma'am...OMG!! That's hilarious!!! Are you John Candy?
You're the one talking smack about price gouging on a messageboard. Maybe you should go home and look in the mirror and start talking to yourself, otherwise why be on a messageboard? At the end of the day you don't know the answer. This doesn't surprise me. All Deplorables don't know their arse from their elbow, let alone the machinations of how the real world turns. You guys prove it everyday.....on this board.You seem to think your question means something profound.
It was not. God, you guys are so delusional. It's like when people mention firearm deaths and you guys go "oh, take out the gang deaths an it's a different story". You say the same about COVID. "Oh take that out of the equation and he's done a great job". Well, duh, you can't take that out of the equation. It happened on his watch. End of story.Yet our country was in great shape when he was running it. Look at us now!
People like you are the problem. You can't debate Trump's great success as President, so you hate the guy because of meanie Tweets, and that's what's wrong in this country; too many people voting on personality instead of accomplishments. When you use the same criteria to pick representatives that you used picking American Idol contestants, of course you're going to end up with the problems we have today.
You and I own widget factories. You choose your employees based on how nice they are even though terrible workers. I choose my employees based on their ability to make my company successful. Which one of our widget factories will close down first?
Ppffttt...wage growth chart. Note it slowly started increasing under Obama after the GFC. All that happened was it increased slightly under Trump at the same rate it was under Obama.Yes, true….he tweets .But he accomplished a LOT before the communists released their virus and shut down the world:
1) His pro-business policies created such a positive environment that we were at the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, with blacks having the lowest unemployment rate on record.
2) For the same reason, we saw low-wage salaries rise, in real terms, for the first time in decades
3) We were energy independent and gas prices were affordable for the working classes
4) He was making inroads with the Arab-Israeli situation via the Abraham Accords
5) He got us out of poor trade agreements, and into an advantageous with Mexico and Canada
6) He had the border well under control, with the Wait-in-MexIco policy
Those are just the ones off my head. So the way I see it is a choice between:
1) a man with an abrasive personality with great policy decisions and a record of accomplishments to run on
2) a man with dementia who has made a mess if the border situation, has incentivized people not to work with unneeded payoffs, has gone to the extreme left and is trying to push through policies that will exacerbate an already high inflation, left $85 billion in military equipment and Americans behind to Islamic terrorists, and has a 50-year record of accomplishing nOthing
Glad you've come around to agree there was in fact a hold.The hold was lifted on Sept. 11
You're the one talking smack about price gouging on a messageboard. Maybe you should go home and look in the mirror and start talking to yourself, otherwise why be on a messageboard? At the end of the day you don't know the answer. This doesn't surprise me. All Deplorables don't know their arse from their elbow, let alone the machinations of how the real world turns. You guys prove it everyday.....on this board.
Ppffttt...wage growth chart. Note it slowly started increasing under Obama after the GFC. All that happened was it increased slightly under Trump at the same rate it was under Obama.
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RATFLMAO....the Abraham Accords??? Between Israel and the UAE - a country that has never had any issue with Israel? The same UAE that has not once in the history of Israel had any military conflict with it? How about Iran and Israel? Or Palestine and Israel? Or Saudi Arabia and Israel? Or Syria and Israel? What has the Orange Idiot done in that regard? That's like getting the Baptists and the Methodists together to have a Sunday picnic and then declaring it's the equivalent of the Second Coming. Meanwhile, 99.99 per cent of the rest of the world are going "and?"
Trade agreements??? LOL
But multiple studies suggest this is not the case: the cost of tariffs have been borne almost entirely by American households and American firms, not foreign exporters.Did Trump’s tariffs benefit American workers and national security? | Brookings
Geoffrey Gertz explains who pays for American tariffs and how they affect workers and national security.www.brookings.edu
As for immigration. Really?
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Hey, here's an idea. Instead of thinking 'off the top of your head' (which is a trait of a lot of Trump Deplorables), how about doing some fucking research?
Policy?Back to lying again, what should I expect from a lying lib.
2020 is when we got hit with a worldwide plague that had nothing to do with the President or any policy he made.
Er, I think you need to reread it...for comprehension...View attachment 584571
All that happened was it increased slightly under Trump at the same rate it was under Obama.
Ummm.....the same rate would have been a flat line. LOL!
Er, I think you need to reread it...for comprehension...
"..it increased slightly.."You need to learn how to read your own chart.
"at the same rate it was under Obama"
Durr.
"..it increased slightly.."
Derp
You speak about "the will of voters" as if it's sacrosanct.Well you have to admit that those 2 impeachments of Trump were incredibly stupid.
Even if they were based on truth, (which I do not believe), their only purpose was to defeat the will of the voters.