Creationists' theory in detail

[RWS]

I think you’re getting unnecessarily flustered.

You make a continued error in your nonsensical claim: “religious beliefs of atheism”. It’s a slogan that the religious zealots use but one they can’t define.

Just curious. How much less was the force of gravity 6,000 years ago vs. today and how did you measure it?

You failed. It goes to show you can't even answer the simplest gravity questions. Thus, no need to explain it to the likes of you.

Didn't I just say that atheists claim to know and use science, but they don't. They know squat.

howabout them who will you be counseling ... guessing, the guy on the board would be your first target.

The only one displaying aggressive behavior towards others for their religious beliefs is you.

you are the violent one. You are the one attacking others. So those pictures you post represent what you wish to do.

I'm gonna kick ass bond. Should he post again...

 

[james bond]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

 

[RWS]

Don't mess with ding. He's on our side, maybe not completely, but enough that he has the same ideals. He's cool.

 

[james bond]

You've produced no facts and I have yet to whine about anything. Made my point and am still happy to exit the thread. Ignore me. I can go away.

Fort Fun Indiana was wrong again and lost again? It wouldn't be the first time.

 

[RWS]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

You believe in a religion that says it's ok to massacre people that don't believe, in the hope that you survive. And bring those non believers to your religion, or kill them, tortuure them, or traffic them.

That's Christianity. That's not a good thing to believe in...

 

[RWS]

Your religion is evil. You cannot deny that

 

[zaangalewa]

The universe is not cyclical. Entropie grows! Example: Never a room will clean itselve on its own; but it will become dirty on no special reason after some time. That's the same in the only real existing room, which has no outside: the universe. Waves will not start at the borders of a lake, will not flow to a special position in the lake and throw a stone on land in the hand of a human being. This is thinkable - but not realizable, because entropy is not shrinking.

Need more value to your posts, zaangalewa.

Value? ... Hmm ... I'm not able to translate this sentence into my own language.

Yes, entropy grows

Or it stays on the same level - for sure it never shrinks.

and it is what makes things happen in our universe.

Or not. Some people have even the idea the growth of entropy has something to do with the flow of time on its own. I don't know why people think in such ways.

It's like how money makes the world go around.

Money makes not the world go round.

In the financial world, we follow the money trail and it tells us where things are good and where things are not so good.

No comment

The successful business people are able to figure out where the money will flow.

Don't be astonished - but to get money or not to get money has nearly nothing to do with any elitarian ability of rich people. When you give a poor idiot money, then he will become a rich idiot, that's all.

It's the same with the physical world

No. What money is doing or not doing has only to do with psychology and sociology. Money is in this context only a kind of crutch. Without money we could in theory do the same things, which we do with money. Money is practically a kind of motivator.

and entropy tells us where things are good and where things are not so good.

No. Sunshine for example takes care that entropie grows. Sunshine is not per se good or bad. Good is it when it is cold and the sun warms - bad is it when you get a sunburn. Living stuctures have to live in balance, in harmony. Extremes are destroying us.

The successful physicists or scientists are able to figure out where the heat will flow. With heat we are able to find out the physical value of energy. Thus, if a country has more energy as the heat is flowing there, then the better off it will be.

Aha. Let me say it in this way: May god ever let shine over you his sun like a smile of his son, so you will never suffer fear or pain. May he protect you and your people.



Bless the Lord, O my soul! O Lord my God, you are very great! You are clothed with splendor and majesty, covering yourself with light as with a garment, stretching out the heavens like a tent. He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters; he makes the clouds his chariot; he rides on the wings of the wind; he makes his messengers winds, his ministers a flaming fire. He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. You covered it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled; at the sound of your thunder they took to flight. The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place that you appointed for them. You set a boundary that they may not pass, so that they might not again cover the earth. You make springs gush forth in the valleys; they flow between the hills; they give drink to every beast of the field; the wild donkeys quench their thirst. Beside them the birds of the heavens dwell; they sing among the branches. From your lofty abode you water the mountains; the earth is satisfied with the fruit of your work. You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man’s heart. The trees of the Lord are watered abundantly, the cedars of Lebanon that he planted. In them the birds build their nests; the stork has her home in the fir trees. The high mountains are for the wild goats; the rocks are a refuge for the rock badgers. He made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting. You make darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep about. The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God. When the sun rises, they steal away and lie down in their dens. Man goes out to his work and to his labor until the evening. O Lord, how manifold are your works! In wisdom have you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures. Here is the sea, great and wide, which teems with creatures innumerable, living things both small and great. There go the ships, and Leviathan, which you formed to play in it. These all look to you, to give them their food in due season. When you give it to them, they gather it up; when you open your hand, they are filled with good things. When you hide your face, they are dismayed; when you take away their breath, they die and return to their dust. When you send forth your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the ground. May the glory of the Lord endure forever; may the Lord rejoice in his works, who looks on the earth and it trembles, who touches the mountains and they smoke! I will sing to the Lord as long as I live; I will sing praise to my God while I have being. May my meditation be pleasing to him, for I rejoice in the Lord. Let sinners be consumed from the earth, and let the wicked be no more! Bless the Lord, O my soul! Praise the Lord!
Psalm 104

 

[Hollie]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

It’s funny, people who understand biological sciences can talk about it. You cut and paste links to knuckleheads with blogs.

The blogger poses the knucklehead question “do you believe in evolution”? That’s a clue that your fundie knucklehead blogger is a fundie knucklehead.

There’s no requirement for belief when facts point to what is known.

 

[Newtonian]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

You believe in a religion that says it's ok to massacre people that don't believe, in the hope that you survive. And bring those non believers to your religion, or kill them, tortuure them, or traffic them.

That's Christianity. That's not a good thing to believe in...

True - Christendom has been responsible for many of the wars and atrocities in history (e.g. the inquisition; Conquistadors; World War II; Serbian Ortodox ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo; etc.). These religions claim to be 'Christian' but they do not follow what Jesus taught - for example for us to love our enemies - Matthew 5:44

We (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not go to war and we do love our enemies. We do actually follow what Jesus taught.

 

[ding]

A lie told often enough becomes truth.

a people without a heritage are easily persuaded.

 

[ding]

Your religion is evil. You cannot deny that

If you really believed that then you should start fire bombing churches.

 

[ding]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

You believe in a religion that says it's ok to massacre people that don't believe, in the hope that you survive. And bring those non believers to your religion, or kill them, tortuure them, or traffic them.

That's Christianity. That's not a good thing to believe in...

You believing that shit is as ridiculous as believing the earth is 6000 years old.

you should join the JW’s.

 

[ding]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

It’s funny, people who understand biological sciences can talk about it. You cut and paste links to knuckleheads with blogs.

The blogger poses the knucklehead question “do you believe in evolution”? That’s a clue that your fundie knucklehead blogger is a fundie knucklehead.

There’s no requirement for belief when facts point to what is known.

I find militant atheists, like yourself, to be more dangerous to liberty and freedom than fundie knucklehead bloggers.

 

[Hollie]

It’s here. Page 50.

Any of the Vishnu, Zeus believers, Christian polytheists care to post their:

“General Theory of SuperMagical Creation".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You've produced no facts and I have yet to whine about anything

I am not a research scientist. They produce facts. If you think your uneducated ass has outsmarted them, then the burden is on you. Because evolution as the origin of species is an accepted fact.

And yes, all you have done for the last 3 pages is whine. Incessantly.

 

[james bond]

The universe is not cyclical. Entropie grows! Example: Never a room will clean itselve on its own; but it will become dirty on no special reason after some time. That's the same in the only real existing room, which has no outside: the universe. Waves will not start at the borders of a lake, will not flow to a special position in the lake and throw a stone on land in the hand of a human being. This is thinkable - but not realizable, because entropy is not shrinking.

Need more value to your posts, zaangalewa.

Value? ... Hmm ... I'm not able to translate this sentence into my own language.

Yes, entropy grows

Or it stays on the same level - for sure it never shrinks.

and it is what makes things happen in our universe.

Or not. Some people have even the idea the growth of entropy has something to do with the flow of time on its own. I don't know why people think in such ways.

It's like how money makes the world go around.

Money makes not the world go round.

In the financial world, we follow the money trail and it tells us where things are good and where things are not so good.

No comment

The successful business people are able to figure out where the money will flow.

Don't be astonished - but to get money or not to get money has nearly nothing to do with any elitarian ability of rich people. When you give a poor idiot money, then he will become a rich idiot, that's all.

It's the same with the physical world

No. What money is doing or not doing has only to do with psychology and sociology. Money is in this context only a kind of crutch. Without money we could in theory do the same things, which we do with money. Money is practically a kind of motivator.

and entropy tells us where things are good and where things are not so good.

No. Sunshine for example takes care that entropie grows. Sunshine is not per se good or bad. Good is it when it is cold and the sun warms - bad is it when you get a sunburn. Living stuctures have to live in balance, in harmony. Extremes are destroying us.

The successful physicists or scientists are able to figure out where the heat will flow. With heat we are able to find out the physical value of energy. Thus, if a country has more energy as the heat is flowing there, then the better off it will be.

Aha. Let me say it in this way: May god ever let shine over you his sun like a smile of his son, so you will never suffer fear or pain. May he protect you and your people.



Bless the Lord, O my soul! O Lord my God, you are very great! You are clothed with splendor and majesty, covering yourself with light as with a garment, stretching out the heavens like a tent. He lays the beams of his chambers on the waters; he makes the clouds his chariot; he rides on the wings of the wind; he makes his messengers winds, his ministers a flaming fire. He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. You covered it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. At your rebuke they fled; at the sound of your thunder they took to flight. The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place that you appointed for them. You set a boundary that they may not pass, so that they might not again cover the earth. You make springs gush forth in the valleys; they flow between the hills; they give drink to every beast of the field; the wild donkeys quench their thirst. Beside them the birds of the heavens dwell; they sing among the branches. From your lofty abode you water the mountains; the earth is satisfied with the fruit of your work. You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man’s heart. The trees of the Lord are watered abundantly, the cedars of Lebanon that he planted. In them the birds build their nests; the stork has her home in the fir trees. The high mountains are for the wild goats; the rocks are a refuge for the rock badgers. He made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting. You make darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep about. The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God. When the sun rises, they steal away and lie down in their dens. Man goes out to his work and to his labor until the evening. O Lord, how manifold are your works! In wisdom have you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures. Here is the sea, great and wide, which teems with creatures innumerable, living things both small and great. There go the ships, and Leviathan, which you formed to play in it. These all look to you, to give them their food in due season. When you give it to them, they gather it up; when you open your hand, they are filled with good things. When you hide your face, they are dismayed; when you take away their breath, they die and return to their dust. When you send forth your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the ground. May the glory of the Lord endure forever; may the Lord rejoice in his works, who looks on the earth and it trembles, who touches the mountains and they smoke! I will sing to the Lord as long as I live; I will sing praise to my God while I have being. May my meditation be pleasing to him, for I rejoice in the Lord. Let sinners be consumed from the earth, and let the wicked be no more! Bless the Lord, O my soul! Praise the Lord!
Psalm 104

I don't know what to tell you. You're looney tunes. Why do you put 'god' in lower case? That refers to Satan. Instead, you need to understand the value of Scripture and how one is blessed. The entropy is increasing is truly a blessing instead of the mish mosh you put together. With it, the engineers, physicists, and other physical scientists will be able to help do good.

 

[james bond]

We (Jehovah's Witnesses) do not go to war and we do love our enemies. We do actually follow what Jesus taught.

Do you believe in the creed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums?

You post your errors in both.

Do you believe evolution?

It's the best we have so far.

Still looking for your proof about orbital physics?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We do? I don't believe you.

It's funny we end up talking about science in R&E and religion in S&T forums? I think it means that they are intertwined.

Do you believe evolution? Here's a website on evolution that you should check out and believe -- Evolution. It's all about science. Maybe that will help get your religious stuff together and stop asking stupid questions and start being less wrong.

Thanks for the link.
No mention there about a flood.
Try again?

 

[james bond]

I am not a research scientist.

Everyone who has discussed things with you know you're not a scientist. You're not even an atheist scientist . I just had the big lol of my day.