For the anti Israel & AIPAC crowd

OP, do you know that many, if not most dumocraps accept AIPAC money that has been laundered through another PAC or SuperPAC to hide its origin? The dumocraps are taking AIPAC money just like republicans, but are going to greater lengths to hide it. For example, do you know that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Cory Booker and Hakeem Jeffries all take money from Pro-Israel PACs? Your party should drop this anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC stuff before more people find out. AIPAC and Israel are not ruining this country, corrupt politicians are.

Track AIPAC - Follow Israel lobby spending in U.S. politics
 
Most have been trained from their youth that they have to choose a "team." And they need to cheer for their teem no matter what. They've lost sight of the fact that the real war has always been Good vs. Evil. Few take time to ponder what that really means. What is good and right and righteous? And what's the alternative?

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Maybe not so much about choosing a team, but being unable/unwilling to analyze a teams performance and still hanging onto it forever - aka sheeple - who never learned to think and act for themselves.
 
OP, do you know that many, if not most dumocraps accept AIPAC money that has been laundered through another PAC or SuperPAC to hide its origin? The dumocraps are taking AIPAC money just like republicans, but are going to greater lengths to hide it. For example, do you know that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Cory Booker and Hakeem Jeffries all take money from Pro-Israel PACs? Your party should drop this anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC stuff before more people find out. AIPAC and Israel are not ruining this country, corrupt politicians are.

Track AIPAC - Follow Israel lobby spending in U.S. politics
Would you like some dressing with your salad? Another apologist speaks.

Re-read what you just wrote. You admit that BOTH sides of the Swamp aisle take money from Israel/AIPAC then you admit that government is corrupt but you said it while attempting to defend the RepubliCONS.
 
OP, do you know that many, if not most dumocraps accept AIPAC money that has been laundered through another PAC or SuperPAC to hide its origin? The dumocraps are taking AIPAC money just like republicans, but are going to greater lengths to hide it. For example, do you know that Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, Cory Booker and Hakeem Jeffries all take money from Pro-Israel PACs? Your party should drop this anti-Israel and anti-AIPAC stuff before more people find out. AIPAC and Israel are not ruining this country, corrupt politicians are.

Track AIPAC - Follow Israel lobby spending in U.S. politics
The SYSTEM requires one who pays - and one who takes, as such both are evil or hideous in their intend and action. Just blaming only Democrats or only Republicans, only shows you didn't get the issue as such. Or you are obviously simply content with it, as long YOUR respective party gets to collect more.
 
The SYSTEM requires one who pays - and one who takes, as such both are evil or hideous in their intend and action. Just blaming only Democrats or only Republicans, only shows you didn't get the issue as such. Or you are obviously simply content with it, as long YOUR respective party gets to collect more.
I'm certainly not condoning the GOP for taking AIPAC money, I'm simply pointing out that the Anti-Israel and Anti-AIPAC left does not know that its star politicians are indirectly taking AIPAC money. I would prefer massive campaign finance reforms that prohibit foreign interference, I would prefer Citizen's United be overturned, I would prefer that all lobbying be illegal, and I would prefer a cap on how much any individual can donate to a campaign. I would prefer that politicians can't get rich while in political office. But I know politicians on both sides of the aisle would not.
 
The SYSTEM requires one who pays - and one who takes, as such both are evil or hideous in their intend and action. Just blaming only Democrats or only Republicans, only shows you didn't get the issue as such. Or you are obviously simply content with it, as long YOUR respective party gets to collect more.
Money in politics by design ensures ones voice is heard. The pharmaceutical industry, the NRA, different governments around the world etc.

This will allow a lobbyist a voice, it is the politician who makes the decision on the policy. This is where I would be surprised if Trump bent ón any issue, he doesn't need the money and he is the president not a low level politician, he has many advisors and Intel resources.

Thus, if he decided to attack Iran for example, it is solely his decision. I cannot imagine any lobbyist having that much power. If Trump were truly that weak, he should resign.

Also, people seem to ignore the fact that Israel is at least fighting side by side with the U.S as an ally with skin in the game. Other allies talk a great game, Isreal and the IDF risk their lives and apply their military to the effort. That is a huge difference in my opinion.
 
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If those are your only choice you don't have a choice do you? get you are SOL for voting

by all means though, let the far left get more votes.......yeah that will end well for you and me

You have really became jaded on our government......because of trump?

sorry you don't have a 3rd choice.......a complete angel who will gift you all you desire

You seem bright, the government now is a well oiled machine which will continue to do what it does

they don't want or need your import......you are one person......not important

Try and call SSA, you will find out fast you are a number.......nothing more

trying to fight a system you can't beat, you can keep trying and fail
 
Money in politics by design ensures ones voice is heard. The pharmaceutical industry, the NRA, different governments around the world etc.

This will allow a lobbyist a voice, it is the politicians who makes the decisionon the policy. This is where I would be surprised if Trump bent ón any issue, he doesn't need the money and he is the president not a low level politician, he has many advisors and Intel resources.

Thus, if he decided to attack Iran for example, it is solely his decision. I cannot imagine any lobbyist having that much power. If Trump were truly that weak, he should resign.

Also, people seem to ignore the fact that Israel is at least fighting side by side with the U.S as an ally with skin in the game. Other allies talk a great game, Isreal and the IDF risk their lives and apply their military to the effort. That is a huge difference in my opinion.
Money in politics makes sure those with money get what they want instead of what the people want. It sucks, but that is how it is. The voters don't seem to mind all the financing for their team, but they sure do hate all the financing for the other team. As for Trump. I don't think Trump wanted to attack Iran militarily, but you can bet your ass the rest of the government wanted to, like the Dept. of State, the Pentagon, the CIA and many other agencies. The establishment wanted to attack Iran for decades. This wasn't one man's decision.
 
Thus, if he decided to attack Iran for example, it is solely his decision. I cannot imagine any lobbyist having that much power. If Trump were truly that weak, he should resign.

Also, people seem to ignore the fact that Israel is at least fighting side by side with the U.S as an ally with skin in the game. Other allies talk a great game, Isreal and the IDF risk their lives and apply their military to the effort. That is a huge difference in my opinion.
^^^This.

These assclowns don't have a clue, they're just parrots who have no idea how anything works in the US, they just babble whatever nonsense they're told to.
 
Money in politics makes sure those with money get what they want instead of what the people want. It sucks, but that is how it is. The voters don't seem to mind all the financing for their team, but they sure do hate all the financing for the other team. As for Trump. I don't think Trump wanted to attack Iran militarily, but you can bet your ass the rest of the government wanted to, like the Dept. of State, the Pentagon, the CIA and many other agencies. The establishment wanted to attack Iran for decades. This wasn't one man's decision.

Most non-profits lobby as well; it's an indication that they're significant enough to warrant attention, unlike these assclowns hiding under their beds sniveling about Jews all day, and are clearly idiots; most aren't American either, from the lack of even basic political knowledge they keep posting.
 
Money in politics by design ensures ones voice is heard. The pharmaceutical industry, the NRA, different governments around the world etc.

This will allow a lobbyist a voice, it is the politician who makes the decision on the policy. This is where I would be surprised if Trump bent ón any issue, he doesn't need the money and he is the president not a low level politician, he has many advisors and Intel resources.

Thus, if he decided to attack Iran for example, it is solely his decision. I cannot imagine any lobbyist having that much power. If Trump were truly that weak, he should resign.

Also, people seem to ignore the fact that Israel is at least fighting side by side with the U.S as an ally with skin in the game. Other allies talk a great game, Isreal and the IDF risk their lives and apply their military to the effort. That is a huge difference in my opinion.
Your post is total nonsense. - especially in regards to TACO or any Presidents orders and actions. AFAIK the only US Presidents after Kennedy, who weren't personally/family-wise rich or wealthy were Nixon, Carter and Reagan.

As for "donations":

Political parties especially those being represented in Congress, State administrations down to county level - have their own income - from their side job, and or from the respective government administration that is paying their government jobs paycheck. Aka from the tax-payers. Parties as such receive membership fees via party-members. Aka the Party has enough money to further it's cause - aka that of its voters.

So taking money from "outside" needs to be strictly forbidden - also "donations" from US citizens/companies and logically those from foreign entities and persons.

Anything else is "hidden" or "open" CORRUPTION. And it's this "corruption" that attracts the absolute majority of politicians - and not working to do something good for their country and voters.

So pay a very attractive salary - hire or fire according to PERFORMANCE - just as in the private industry.
If a purchase officer, a night-guard or e.g. a company CEO - takes a bribe - he/she usually gets fired - if he under-performs he gets fired, over and out.

So why should the political system be treated differently? - simply because that's exactly the SYSTEM, that ALL these useless and corrupt politicians have been setting up and maintaining for decades and centuries.

And people like YOU are even in support and defense of this SYSTEM whilst you lament all day long about your Canada. :rolleyes:
 
I'm certainly not condoning the GOP for taking AIPAC money, I'm simply pointing out that the Anti-Israel and Anti-AIPAC left does not know that its star politicians are indirectly taking AIPAC money. I would prefer massive campaign finance reforms that prohibit foreign interference, I would prefer Citizen's United be overturned, I would prefer that all lobbying be illegal, and I would prefer a cap on how much any individual can donate to a campaign. I would prefer that politicians can't get rich while in political office. But I know politicians on both sides of the aisle would not.
Any and everyone who works for the SYSTEM - knows how it works and doesn't need to play "stupid" with me about - hey, I didn't know that I, or my party gets - bribes ...ehm... "donations" from whoever. In Germany e.g. the Police or Police-station is not allowed to take a single penny from anyone outside, even if someone simply wants to show his gratitude - somehow this doesn't restrict or hinder the police to do their job, at all. (that hidden corruption still exists - is understood), but imagine one would openly allow for the police to take "donations".

Once you turn towards politics - e.g. the majors office in a small village- "contributions" are ALL what they look for and talk about!
Or the interior ministry of a State e.g. tendering for a fleet of police-cars - and woom you got fancy holiday invitations, weekend benefits and heavily rebated private e.g. Mercedes for the top boys, or a nice job for someones useless relative at e.g. Mercedes.
 
Most have been trained from their youth that they have to choose a "team." And they need to cheer for their teem no matter what. They've lost sight of the fact that the real war has always been Good vs. Evil. Few take time to ponder what that really means. What is good and right and righteous? And what's the alternative?

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Political parties are only as good as their membership. Especially at the grassroots where it all begins and can be changed/improved.

So what is your realistic and workable alternative, ole wise one ???
 
Hitler was vicious.
Hmm.... that reminds me of somebody....

He was actually in general very nice to blond children, women who adored him, and to those who obeyed him. As such a beloved and adored Dictator, by a slight majority. Somehow his opponents, viewed him differently. And from 1943 since the war was going worse and worse, (he actually thought it would only take 6 month to crush the Soviet-Union), and didn't have an exit-strategy, he started to loose support amongst the German population, despite awarding iron crosses to 12-14 year old kids, and telling the German population that the Soviet-union was more or less beaten.

Also he told his population that he didn't give a shit about their financial well-being - but that preventing the Soviet-Union (a country that had never attacked him) from obtaining massive destructing weapons is his priority. After-all they posed an immediate threat to his ally Japan. Whilst stoically pointing out that the "migrant issue" was being taken care by him, like nobody ever before in German history had, (but you know - all those lefties never appreciated that).

Even his spectacular commando-raid - to kidnap Mussolini away from leftist/communist scum - a military operation such as the world has never seen before, never got the attention, he thought it deserved.

In 1934 several high-ranking politicians (from his own party) tried to rid him of his power - and many former ardent supporters were among those traitors - you know Röhm, Strasser, like a kind of T.Massie or Raffensperger - and boy did he take care of those people - demonstrating how vicious he actually is.

I believe if Adolf had issued postcards depicting himself as Jesus - he might very well have regained some support in 1945.
 
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