Courts Squash Democrats’ ‘Most Secure Election’ Lie:

[woodwork201]

Irrelevant. if the ballots were fake, then all the votes are in question.

You cannot have it both ways.

Yes. All the votes, all the results, can be called invalid. There was no legal, constitutional, authoritative election in 2020. We are living in a post-constitutional age. Let's see if we can get just enough trust in the process we can pretend 2020 was OK and and go on with our nation as though it never happened.

If 2022 or 2024 is more of the same, we all have to consider if the Constitution is governing at all or if we are 100% into tyranny.

 

[BlindBoo]

According to the Constitution, you know; that supreme law of the land thingie, the governor does not.

The governor of Texas does and the Texas Supreme Court affirm it. He changed several rules before the 2020 election. His own party sued him over those changes, and lost.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yes. All the votes, all the results, can be called invalid. There was no legal, constitutional, authoritative election in 2020. We are living in a post-constitutional age. Let's see if we can get just enough trust in the process we can pretend 2020 was OK and and go on with our nation as though it never happened.

If 2022 or 2024 is more of the same, we all have to consider if the Constitution is governing at all or if we are 100% into tyranny.

Nope, if 2020 was not valid, no election after it can ever be valid. If 2020 is not valid nobody in Congress should be running for reelection, all should be out. Those in the Senate that won in 2020 have to be kicked out and theri seats voted for again, or any election cannot be valid.

Oh, and this goes for the state level as well since they were all on the same ballots

 

[alang1216]

According to the Constitution, you know; that supreme law of the land thingie, the governor does not.

The governor does if the legislature delegates that authority. Every court has so far agreed.

 

[woodwork201]

That's funny. The Wisconsin assembly leader, Robin Vos, spoke very highly of drop boxes before the election.

It wasn't until Trump whined about drop boxes that Vos began to be very cagey about where he stands and now he has come out fully against them.

Spineless cowards.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that approved by a legislator is not the same as approved by the legislature? Robin Vos has plenum power to speak and act for the legislature?

 

[surada]

Swing States Didn’t Follow Their Own Laws In 2020​

We hear the courts decided against Trump all the time. If you take the court at its word on Trump then the courts should be heeded here also. This proves the election in the swing states had 0 integrity. This is not a conspiracy. I suppose it is something the criminals could challenge, Where are they? It must be true,

Courts Rule States Did Not Follow Their Own Election Laws In 2020

Pennsylvania and Wisconsin violated their own laws in 2020, emphasizing the necessity of the rule of law in elections.

thefederalist.com

The Federalist never gets anything right.

 

[woodwork201]

woodwork201
Here is a letter from an attorney speaking for Wisconsin Assembly Leader Robin Voss and State Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald written less than two months before the 2020 election: https://www.amoscenterforjustice.or...s/vos-fritzgerald-dropbox-approval-letter.pdf

"WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT".

"EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED".


Trump and his spineless lickspittles will go down in history as the Worst. Sore. Losers. EVAH!!!

The letter doesn't say "expressly authorized lockboxes" it lists all sorts of expressly authorized delivery methods (while trying to dissuade the city from yet another illegal voting scam which was, ultimately, carried out. So thanks for pointing out yet another voting crime by the Democrats.

The letter doesn't say that the authorized lockboxes are those supplied by Zuckerberg but I don't find any other laws allowing lock boxes. So, even though the letter mentions "authorized lockboxes", they're not actually or expressly authorized unless the majority of the legislature, not just two members, approved it. You get that, right?

 

[woodwork201]

Courts have ruled that laws in effect at the time an election is held, determine how the election is carried out. Even if those laws are later overturned, the votes cast under the laws existing at the time of the election stand as valid votes.

Well, that's the whole problem, isn't it? The laws weren't followed and it's the laws that the OP showed were upheld. The bureaucrats changing the rules is not the same as changing the laws. Only the legislature can change the voting laws - in fact, even the governor doesn't get a veto. The Constitution is very clear on the matter.

 

[woodwork201]

These articles prove how Zuckerberg's 500 million dollars violated the law.

Report: Zuckerberg Money Used in Violation of Federal Election Law

A new report by a national public interest law firm alleged, that half a billion dollars donated by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was used to violate election laws...

www.newsmax.com

HAVA-and-Non-Profit-Organization-Report-FINAL-W-Attachments-and-Preface-121420

www.documentcloud.org

 

[woodwork201]

Na na na na NO!.Real simple.State legislatures Control State Elections.
No debate over this.In 2000 the reason there was a huge problem
was that The Most Radical State Supreme Court in the land
was from Florida.Where the Governor was Jeb Bush and his
Secretary-of-State was Kathleen Harris.Both diehard republicans.
It was the Radical Florida State Supreme court that gummied up
as much as it could the month long 2000 Florida recount.
Gore and the Democrats Lost their recount case in
Florida's Circuit Court but was then rewarded when the
Radical Florida State Supreme Court reversed that Circuit
Court Decision.

I like what you're saying but the delivery sucks. Can you figure out why your posts are adding a linebreak near the end of each line rather than just letting the browser wrap the lines? No one else has this problem (other than that one idiot who keeps centering each line of his/her posts). Your posts would be a lot easier to read if you wouldn't try to outsmart the browser. You're losing on that battle of wits.

 

[woodwork201]

Table 9: Ballot Drop Box Laws

Covers the drop box definition, design features, number and location as required by each state that permits or requires ballot drop boxes.

www.ncsl.org

There you go. A list of states which have been using drop boxes for years, with no controversies.

Even the Republican leaders of the Wisconsin state legislature expressly authorized and wholeheartedly approved drop boxes in 2020.

It was not until Trump's Big Lie that they flip-flopped like the spineless cowards they are.

If all you have is, "Nuh-uh!" then we are done here.

So some states have laws allowing lockboxes. No evidence in your reply that they were there for decades. For many of those states, the lockbox must be manned by a security guard or police. For almost all they must have cameras. Most require that the boxes be locked down during off voting hours.

But, most important, what's missing in that list is any law by the legislatures of Pennsylvania or Wisconsin.

Not only were the boxes in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin illegal and unconstitutional, they didn't follow any of the practices required by those states that do allow the boxes. But, then again, the boxes were illegal and they could have had two swat teams guarding them and they would still be illegal.

When votes are cast illegally, the remedy cannot be to count the votes and fix it the next time. The remedy must be to exclude those votes and let the voters respond as they choose back to the state political offices that violated their rights.

 

[toobfreak]

So when will the 6 members of the Elections Board face charges for their crimes and what will the charges be, pray-tell?

Hey stoopid-- -- why don't you ask your representatives in your state that question instead of some stranger on your internet?

 

[toobfreak]

The courts say “NO”.

Didn't ASK the courts ya dope ya.

 

[woodwork201]

Really? The Patriots are known for cheating, just like the Democrats.

Sports fans are still singing the praises of Tom Brady, the cheating QB of the Patriots.

This is the problem with Republicans. How many Republicans continue to watch football players take a knee during the National Anthem? How many couldn't wait to watch the NBA championships?

Cheating doesn't matter. Disrespecting the flag doesn't matter. Slavery and concentration camps in China don't matter - not to the left or to the right.

At least the left has the defense of being communists themselves so supporting a communist nation is right up their alley. The Republicans, any Republican, who continues to watch these sports is a liar.

 

[konradv]

Didn't ASK the courts ya dope ya.

You prefer battering rams, I take it!

 

[meaner gene]

This is the realization that the 2020 election was unreliable because voting laws were broken.

Actually the two are totally unrelated. A bank can violate the records requirements, yet the financial security of the bank being 100% secure.

You're trying to conclude, since records are missing, that somebody robbed the bank.

 

[Leo123]

Actually the two are totally unrelated. A bank can violate the records requirements, yet the financial security of the bank being 100% secure.

You're trying to conclude, since records are missing, that somebody robbed the bank.

We're not talking banks, dufus.

 

[meaner gene]

Well, that's the whole problem, isn't it? The laws weren't followed and it's the laws that the OP showed were upheld. The bureaucrats changing the rules is not the same as changing the laws. Only the legislature can change the voting laws - in fact, even the governor doesn't get a veto. The Constitution is very clear on the matter.

Re: Only the legislature can change the voting laws .

While this is true. Legislatures often delegate regulation to subordinate bodies. The legislatures also granted the governor "emergency powers" making it a matter of opinion the limits of those emergency powers.

Under Pennsylvania's Emergency Management Services Code, the Governor is empowered to declare states of emergency and exercise broad authority, including issuing executive orders with the force of law.

 

[meaner gene]

But, then again, the boxes were illegal and they could have had two swat teams guarding them and they would still be illegal.

When votes are cast illegally, the remedy cannot be to count the votes and fix it the next time. The remedy must be to exclude those votes and let the voters respond as they choose back to the state political offices that violated their rights.

This is where you're wrong, because you conflate illegal handling of vote with illegal votes.

An analogy is if federal banking laws require the armored cars carrying bank deposits be licensed by the state. And when finding out one of the carriers violated the law, Telling the businesses their deposits carried on those trucks would be excluded (no longer on deposit)

 

[Lastamender]

The Federalist never gets anything right.

Got a better record than the NYT or the WP.