Coulda Had a Pipeline

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes if you live in an ivory tower and all your personal needs are provided for you by a living government with inexhaustible resources

Or if you are a rational person who is willing to consider the facts and not roll up into the fetal position at the first intellectual challenge to their childish political fetishes. As you always like to do, and are doing right here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump's policies allowed that to happen, and Biden's policies of tightening up the industry is changing that opportunity.

Overblown nonsense and a red herring. What I said has been true for 100 years and would be true if Biden and Trump were both aborted as fetuses. And will still be true 50 years from now.

 

[Mac-7]

Or if you are a rational person who is willing to consider the facts and not roll up into the fetal position at the first intellectual challenge to their childish political fetishes. As you always like to do, and are doing right here.

Thats what the left was proposing until very recently

It seems that many low income people really liked staying home and not working if government was going to support them

Now they are facing eviction because they havent been paying their rent in a year

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Thats what the left was proposing until very recently

Nah, that's a lie. Such an idea has never had any actual political traction. You like to overblow and invent stuff to scare yourself, when you run out of reasons to complain.

Of course, half the reason you do this is because you think it is a valid intellectual tactic to just pinch off a steaming turd in the middle of the room, and make it everyone else's job to sift through it.

 

[sparky]

The energy shortage is due to capitalist not producing oil so they can make record profits, it has nothing to do with Biden.

it's 1973 again Moon dude.....~S~

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

(Notice the right wing scramble for off topic convo, now that the original point of the thread has been obliterated)

 

[Mac-7]

Nah, that's a lie. Such an idea has never had any actual political traction. You like to overblow and invent stuff to scare yourself, when you run out of reasons to complain.

Have you forgotten the guv of california shutting down businesses across california?

Even in Texas where liberal county commissioners in deep blue counties locking up small business owners who ordered them to remain closed

Or the police breaking up church services as non essential activities

That was liberal insanity on display

 

[Burgermeister]

Gone from energy dominance to begging for it. In 9 months.

 

[Godboy]

The

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You can whine and spin your alt-right lies as many times as they can escape your lips. It doesn't change the fact the US was never energy independent.

U.S. Is Not “Energy Independent,” Despite Trump’s Claims | Houston Public Media

But Texas’ crude oil production would cushion the effects of potential Iranian attacks on Mideast oil infrastructure.

www.houstonpublicmedia.org

Then why arent democrats helping to change that? Why do you fight so vigorously against drilling and fracking? Why shut down oil from our closest ally and instead beg countries on the other side of the world to give us more oil?

 

[Weatherman2020]

One simple concept that seems to elude you guys:

"We" didn't export jack shit. Internationally owned and traded private companies did, after they pulled the privately owned oil out of the privately owned land where it resides, then sold that oil on the global market to the highest bidder, to the benefit of the shareholders and executives of the privately and internationally owned companies.

What you refuse to address: Biden asks Muslims to increase exports to America, and he asks for no American oil.

 

[ClaireH]

Its highly corrosive and hard to refine.

I take back my reply -prior to checking data- in response to your statement that it costs 26 plus some odd dollar ppb to clean. Definitely not worth the cost to double the cost per barrel or take a big hit.

We export 2.5 million bpd day but that NOT oil independence.

Export- not import^.

Currently, Canada exports about 3.8 million bpd to the United States, according to U.S. Energy Department data. I believe you posted 2019 data. Nowadays, one year is considered outdated unless we’re talking hair styles.

“Analysts expect that to rise to between 4.2 million and 4.4 million bpd over the next few years. Pipeline expansions currently in progress will add more than 950,000 bpd of export capacity for Canadian producers before 2025, according to Rystad Energy.”

Even without Keystone XL, U.S. set for record Canadian oil imports

The Keystone XL pipeline project may be dead, but the United States is still poised to pull in record imports of Canadian oil in coming years through other pipelines that are in the midst of expanding.

www.reuters.com

I usually don’t come back to nitpick an issue unless current data isn’t being utilized. Two year old gas/oil data for is only useful with longitudinal studies.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do we keep repeating this "energy independent" lie to describe the Trump years? It didn't happen.
Honestly, the United States hasn't been energy independent...in a LONG time.

Actually the fracking in the Dakotas did bring production above imports.
That is not like saying we did not still use imports as well.
But interestingly enough, it happened before Trump.

 

[Weatherman2020]

(Notice the right wing scramble for off topic convo, now that the original point of the thread has been obliterated)

What you refuse to address: The OP.

Biden asks Muslims to increase exports to America, and he asks for no American oil.

 

[Weatherman2020]

then you should be mad at your god for getting people to cut production so the oil companies would have higher profits.

Congrats. You’re one of the 2% who defend Poopypants Brandon.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Congrats. You’re one of the 2% who defend Poopypants Brandon.

saying bad things about one person is not defending another person.

if you had an IQ above your shoe size you would know this. But instead you are just SOL

 

[Meister]

Also, one thing to consider is that the US would stockpile oil when the PPB is low.
Even though we were energy independent.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Can't make a point if your life depended on it, can ya? How frustrating that must be, when posting on message boards is one of your hobbies.

Right over your head. Making leftist look like idiots is so easy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Also, one thing to consider is that the US would stockpile oil when the PPB is low.

Did we?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Have you forgotten the guv of california shutting down businesses across california?

Have you forgotten the other 42 states that also issued lockdowns? Of course not, because that would mean that, at some time in the past, you were informed and knew things about this.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Right over your head. Making leftist look like idiots is so easy.

Still can't make your point, like a big girl. How frustrating for you.