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Constitutional Amendments are no longer absolute?

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
 

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No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.
And what about when they don't comport with the Constitution?
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
Amazing how some of our self-professed conservative members here on USMB are growing dumber and dumber as time goes by.
 

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I too am surpised...to a limited degree....on how common that sentiment is about amendments and the Constitution itself being absolute and un-changing.

I was struck by a meme popular in 2A circles that offers an alleged statement by Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Boebert that suggests the absoluteness of Amendments. If true, that she said it, well, it is disheartening that Congressional Representative doesn't know her American history any better than that. It is her job to know it. She should know better.

If I gave enough of a damn, I'd email Boebert's office and suggest she bone up on the 18th Amendment, and the subsequent 21st.

Our founders, the 1787 framers of the founding documents recognized that flexibility is a strength. And created the amendment tactic as a 'course correction' strategem.....as time, circumstance, society, and expectations change. Good for them. And good for us that they had the foresight to know that nothing is forever. Adaptability like flexibility is good thing.
 

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No longer? They never were. There are certain things you can't say or the government will get you, despite the first amendment. Religious liberty can be curtailed, ask the Mormons, despite what the same amendment says. I'm sure there are many more examples, but I thought we could start with two from the first.
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited. You are, as always, ignorant of what the Constitution says.
 

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I suspect the Founding Fathers and subsequent legislators Way Back When assumed a few things when they put this stuff in writing.

Primarily that we would always be able and willing to communicate, collaborate and innovate without going full tribal.

Little did they know that we would decay to where we are today.
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited. You are, as always, ignorant of what the Constitution says.
Where did you find your misinformation?
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited. You are, as always, ignorant of what the Constitution says.
Where did you find your misinformation?
The federalist's papers.

Where did you find yours?

Never mind. You're an extremist and your opinion is worthless.
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited. You are, as always, ignorant of what the Constitution says.
Where did you find your misinformation?
The federalist's papers.

Where did you find yours?

Never mind. You're an extremist and your opinion is worthless.
You disagree with both liberal and conservative justices, past and present and you distort and misinterpret the federalist papers.
 

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All rights are necessarily circumscribed by the rights of others.

None is absolute.

Courts are principally concerned with adjudicating the relative merits of conflicting rights.

E.g., Insecure neighbor Alphonse may insist that he is so insecure that he experiences stress incontinence unless he is allowed to mount a Howitzer on his front porch. Others in the community might prefer that their right to safety be respected, and suggest that Depends® is a more equitable solution.

If there us an impasse, adjudication takes place.
 

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The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited.
Your antic definition of government necessarily negates government.

Universal self-indulgence is hardly the hallmark of any advanced society.
 

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They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
 

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It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The federal income tax is unconstitutional. The way we pay it is not how it was written up but the elites makes sure we pay it this way. Its how you look at things. I am not against it and taxes. that is the norm. It is the amount. And you love people to pay more and more.
 

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They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
 

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They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
 

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