Constitutional Amendments are no longer absolute?

If we can't restrict arms ownership for felons, then we can't imprison felons, either, as it infringes their freedom of mobility.

The Constitution was drafted for a generally moral and law-abiding population, as the Federalist Papers aver.
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
 
It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
we will remember that next time you commit a crime and we just shoot you without a trial,,
 
No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.
And what about when they don't comport with the Constitution?
If an Amendment is passed, it does comport with the Constitution.....case in point the 16th (Income Tax) Amendment which was passed after the Supreme Court had declared a federal income tax to be unConstitutional in 1895 (Pollock v. Farmers Loan Trust Co.)
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
I am not sure what you are asking
 
I suspect the Founding Fathers and subsequent legislators Way Back When assumed a few things when they put this stuff in writing.

Primarily that we would always be able and willing to communicate, collaborate and innovate without going full tribal.

Little did they know that we would decay to where we are today.
Washington warned about that....he saw it coming.
 
It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.

Wrong again. Government has no authority to restrict rights. Its time to start ignoring this tyrannical govt. Thats our duty.
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
I am not sure what you are asking
If an amendment doesn't mean anything concrete, then how does a state know its overriding it? Everyone can have their own interpretation.
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
I am not sure what you are asking
If an amendment doesn't mean anything concrete, then how does a state know its overriding it? Everyone can have their own interpretation.
It might not...hence why cases got to Court. Everyone can, but it's the Court's interpretation that matters
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
I am not sure what you are asking
If an amendment doesn't mean anything concrete, then how does a state know its overriding it? Everyone can have their own interpretation.
It might not...hence why cases got to Court. Everyone can, but it's the Court's interpretation that matters
If interpretation is all that matters, especially by a select few, then we live in chaos and fear.

Language has to be clear and concise. A consensus must prevail; everyone must interpret the amendments the same way.
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.
This means states can change their voting ages to 25, yes?
No, a State law can't override the US Constitution, which sets the age at 18.
How can you help but override amendments that aren't absolute?
I am not sure what you are asking
If an amendment doesn't mean anything concrete, then how does a state know its overriding it? Everyone can have their own interpretation.
It might not...hence why cases got to Court. Everyone can, but it's the Court's interpretation that matters
If interpretation is all that matters, especially by a select few, then we live in chaos and fear.

Language has to be clear and concise. A consensus must prevail; everyone must interpret the amendments the same way.
Really? I think the Court system, is away to keep us from living in chaos. It gives us all a place to go to air our issues in a civil manner.

If it was all clear and concise, then we'd have no need to Courts....

We do have a clear, concise...the Court...or at least the SCOTUS is final
 
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited.
Your antic definition of government necessarily negates government.

Universal self-indulgence is hardly the hallmark of any advanced society.
What?

The Constitution is written to negate universal self-indulgence.

The process to amend the Constitution is deliberately difficult. Fads, whims, and Marxist/Socialist/Communist mentalities are flash in the pan concepts that are harmful and the Founding Fathers set forth to make it exceedingly hard for these kinds of 'societal' changes to happen.

Slow and deliberate is the correct path.

History shows us that governments are harmful and universally corrupt. That is why individual rights are supreme and exceed the power of government. This was the intentional condition of our country.
 
It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
The government's responsibility is to ensure that our rights are not limited. You are, as always, ignorant of what the Constitution says.
Where did you find your misinformation?
The federalist's papers.

Where did you find yours?

Never mind. You're an extremist and your opinion is worthless.
You disagree with both liberal and conservative justices, past and present and you distort and misinterpret the federalist papers.

You've never read the Federalist Papers Nimrod.
 
If we can't restrict arms ownership for felons, then we can't imprison felons, either, as it infringes their freedom of mobility.

The Constitution was drafted for a generally moral and law-abiding population, as the Federalist Papers aver.
Ever hear of Due process?

Rights are absolute, but when you harm others, you forfeit those.

But it has to be the Individual that commits something so heinous that they forfeit their rights.

Government is just a mechanism to enforce that. They do not get to determine who forfeit their rights.

We have juries of our peers for a reason. So that it is NOT government that takes our rights from us.
 
It’s remarkable how ignorant most conservatives are concerning American governance and law; indeed, that ignorance is what makes a conservative a conservative – this thread being one of many examples of that.

No right is absolute or unlimited; government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on citizens’ rights provided those limits and restrictions comport with the Constitution.

That these fundamental tenets of American governance and law must be explained to conservatives is what makes conservatism such a danger to the American nation.
Sorry, NAZI, but the Bill of Rights is the law, not a guideline. The government has no authority to place such limits. In fact the BOR was created specifically to tell the government what it cannot do. What restriction comports with "shall not be abridged?"
 
They have never been absolute. For example, people lose their voting, and gun rights if they have committed certain crimes....additionally, people who are committed can lose their gun rights.[/ATTACH]

What part of "without due process of law" didn't you understand? The 5th Amendment specifically allows for that.

There are also numerous exceptions to search warrants

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

The key here is due process must happen first and foremost.

No duh, exactly as stated in the 5th Amendment.
 

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