Zone1 Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?

[rstrats]

1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".

2. There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

3. And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).

4. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.

6. I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide examples to support the belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

 

[JGalt]

Not having been there myself, all I can say is "No idea."

 

[lg325]

What was considered the first day of the week by their calendar? What was considered a full day?

 

[alang1216]

1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".

2. There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

3. And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).

4. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.

6. I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide examples to support the belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

Not sure it answers your query, but keep in mind that Jesus and his follows were observant Jews so their day started at sunset. The Christians who wrote the NT were likely pagan converts whose days were marked in other ways. Just a thought.

 

[ding]

The Christians who wrote the NT were likely pagan converts

The first followers of Jesus were essentially all ethnically Jewish or Jewish proselytes. Jesus was Jewish, preached to the Jewish people, and called from them his first followers.

Jewish Christianity - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rstrats]

What was considered the first day of the week by their calendar? What was considered a full day?

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

 

[rstrats]

Not sure it answers your query, but keep in mind that Jesus and his follows were observant Jews so their day started at sunset. The Christians who wrote the NT were likely pagan converts whose days were marked in other ways. Just a thought.

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

 

[Ace Nova]

It has always been 3rd day or 3 days - I've never heard about 3 nights.

Friday - Day 1
Saturday - Day 2
Sunday - Day 3

 

[alang1216]

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

I consider myself an amateur historian. I am not a Christian so I have no opinion.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It has always been 3rd day or 3 days - I've never heard about 3 nights.

Friday - Day 1
Saturday - Day 2
Sunday - Day 3

Daylight and Day are not the same. These are the lengths Catholics must go thru to push their paganism on the world

 

[Carl in Michigan]

It has always been 3rd day or 3 days - I've never heard about 3 nights.

Friday - Day 1
Saturday - Day 2
Sunday - Day 3

3 days and 3 nights

 

[rstrats]

It has always been 3rd day or 3 days - I've never heard about 3 nights.

Friday - Day 1
Saturday - Day 2
Sunday - Day 3

See Matthew 12:40.

 

[rstrats]

I consider myself an amateur historian. I am not a Christian so I have no opinion.

So, I'm curious as to why you posted since this topic is directed to those who do?

 

[rstrats]

3 days and 3 nights

Daylight and Day are not the same. These are the lengths Catholics must go thru to push their paganism on the world

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion?

Of course not -- since I already posted a DAY is 24 hours long

 

[rstrats]

Of course not

But this topic is directed to those who are.

-- since I already posted a DAY is 24 hours long

What does that have to do with something happening or not happening on a day of the week?

 

[ding]

1. The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".

2. There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

3. And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).

4. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

5. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.

6. I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide examples to support the belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

Jewish burial practices - according to the Talmud (c. eight century) - tried to ensure that the dead were truly dead.

We go out to the cemetery and examine the dead [to see if they are still alive and have been buried by mistake] for a period of three days and do not fear being suspected of engaging in the ways of the Amorites [i.e., superstitious practices]. Once a man who had been buried was examined and found to be alive; he lived for twenty-five years more and then died. Another such person lived and had five children before he died. (S’machot 8:1)1​

This means that according to Jewish custom, a person was not considered dead until after three days.

 

[alang1216]

The first followers of Jesus were essentially all ethnically Jewish or Jewish proselytes. Jesus was Jewish, preached to the Jewish people, and called from them his first followers.

All true. It is also true that the within a generation the vast majority of Christians were pagan converts.

 

[alang1216]

So, I'm curious as to why you posted since this topic is directed to those who do?

My post was historical, which I feel qualified to post, your question was theological, which I am unqualified to answer.

 

[rstrats]

My post was historical, which I feel qualified to post, your question was theological, which I am unqualified to answer.

Why would you reply to a topic that you are unqualified to answer?