Climate Change; Can we afford to - not - fix it?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ha ha….bubba, it only matters while man has been on earth. Study evolution….no wonder there are deniers. They never accepted evolution.

We can't adapt better today than we did hundreds or thousands of years ago?

 

[Arlette]

There has always been extreme weather events (EWE) of all kinds, so it's difficult to point at any one EWE and say it was caused by climate change. But we don't have to prove any single EWE was caused by climate change to know that climate change is costing us ever greater losses. This graph on the NOAA website shows that since 1980 EWE ( described as those events with losses in excess of one billion dollars in inflation adjusted dollars ) have gone from 3 - 6 per year to now where we are having 15 - 20..


We can't say any particular EWE is caused by climate change, but we can say with certainty that we are sustaining 15 - 20 billion ( many are multi-billion) dollar loss events in excess of what we had before the rapid global warming over the last four decades.

Total losses due to Billion Dollar EWE are now more than 2 1/2 Trillion dollars.

When we can no longer afford to repair our infrastructure, or simply can no longer keep up the pace of needed repairs we will wonder why solving
our fossil fuels dependency was resisted at all.

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[Crick]

If you can explain to me, with scientific evidence, 4.49 billion years of climate change on this planet before the first human stepped on it.

What do you mean by "explain... 4.49 billion years of climate change"?

Well 4,490,002,023 years, 11 months and 25 days ago, it was glowing orange-red and the wind was screaming along at about 700 miles an hour. 4,490,002,023 years, 11 months and 24 days ago, it was glowing orange-red and the wind was screaming along at about 702 miles an hour...

Like that?

Lots of factors have affected the climate. They still affect the climate. Right now and for the past century, however, the strongest of all the factors has been the greenhouse effect acting on the rapid increase of CO2 from human emissions. CO2 in the atmosphere and the temperature it's driving, have been rising MANY times faster than any point in the last several million years.

If you'd like evidence there are temperature and CO2 records at a variety of scales, some from thermometers and gas chromatographs, some from ice cores, some from other proxies. Those data indicate that both now and in the past, CO2 is both driven by warming temperatures and a driver of warming temperatures. Does that help? Do you have more questions?

 

[Dagosa]

We can't adapt better today than we did hundreds or thousands of years ago?

During the time has been on earth, the CO2 levels have NEVER increased as rapidly as in the industrial revolution. When CO2 levels were high, millions of years before OUR species did not evolve. Reptiles and other species ruled the earth. Gessus, it’s not rocket science.

And no. We can’t adapt as well when CO2 levels are a lot higher.
We have proof, it’s called deer tick infestation, covid infections and diseases and mass migrations, all symptoms of increased CO2 and change rates which makes it harder for our species to evolve. Our life expectancy actuallly diminished during the covid infection. Do you need a rock to fall on your head ?

 

[Dagosa]

Nope

Case closed. You‘re pretense you know anything about climate science and you don’t even have a clue about evolution. No,wonder you’re posts are totally bull shit.

 

[Markle]

During the time has been on earth, the CO2 levels have NEVER increased as rapidly as in the industrial revolution. When CO2 levels were high, millions of years before OUR species did not evolve. Reptiles and other species ruled the earth. Gessus, it’s not rocket science.

And no. We can’t adapt as well when CO2 levels are a lot higher.
We have proof, it’s called deer tick infestation, covid infections and diseases and mass migrations, all symptoms of increased CO2 and change rates which makes it harder for our species to evolve. Our life expectancy actuallly diminished during the covid infection. Do you need a rock to fall on your head ?

It's truly one of the goofiest posts about our environment EVER on the great USMB! Deer ticks and man-made COVID-19 your proof? Seriously?

What percentage of our atmosphere is CO2?

What do plants produce during the day?

What do plants produce at night?

Centuries ago, the Vikings colonized Greenland to resupply their ships. They raised crops and had herds of animals. How could that happen?

 

[Crick]

Centuries ago, the Vikings colonized Greenland to resupply their ships. They raised crops and had herds of animals. How could that happen?

Is that your evidence that the world is not getting warmer?

 

[ding]

Is that your evidence that the world is not getting warmer?

It's an interglacial period which is still 2C cooler than peak interglacial temperature of previous interglacials. Of course it is still warming. It's all quite natural.

 

[jc456]

Case closed. You‘re pretense you know anything about climate science and you don’t even have a clue about evolution. No,wonder you’re posts are totally bull shit.

Funny you can’t back up your bullshit but I can. Hmmm gaslighting me?

 

[jc456]

Ha ha….bubba, it only matters while man has been on earth. Study evolution….no wonder there are deniers. They never accepted evolution.

What’s with the new narrative?

 

[jc456]

But we don't have to prove any single EWE was caused by climate change to know that climate change is costing us ever greater losses.

So you admit it’s made up!

 

[Dagosa]

What’s with the new narrative?

Same narrative. It never changed. You are just buried under a rock while climate change has always been about the increased rate of change faster that our species can adapt. That you are ignorant of evolution, just reinforces the chasm between the educated and you illiterates.

 

[Dagosa]

So you admit it’s made up!

It's truly one of the goofiest posts about our environment EVER on the great USMB! Deer ticks and man-made COVID-19 your proof? Seriously?

What percentage of our atmosphere is CO2?

What do plants produce during the day?

What do plants produce at night?

Centuries ago, the Vikings colonized Greenland to resupply their ships. They raised crops and had herds of animals. How could that happen?

Are you babbling again ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

During the time has been on earth, the CO2 levels have NEVER increased as rapidly as in the industrial revolution. When CO2 levels were high, millions of years before OUR species did not evolve. Reptiles and other species ruled the earth. Gessus, it’s not rocket science.

And no. We can’t adapt as well when CO2 levels are a lot higher.
We have proof, it’s called deer tick infestation, covid infections and diseases and mass migrations, all symptoms of increased CO2 and change rates which makes it harder for our species to evolve. Our life expectancy actuallly diminished during the covid infection. Do you need a rock to fall on your head ?

Too fast to adapt? LOL!

and change rates which makes it harder for our species to evolve.

You think we're still evolving? Tell me more!

Our life expectancy actuallly diminished during the covid infection.

Because of CO2? How big a rock hit your head?

 

[Dagosa]

Too fast to adapt? LOL!

Yup,

and change rates which makes it harder for our species to evolve.

You think we're still evolving? Tell me more!

Sure, read a science text on evolution.

Our life expectancy actuallly diminished during the covid infection.

Because of CO2? How big a rock hit your head?

Yes illiterate.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yup,

Sure, read a science text on evolution.

Yes illiterate.

Humans can't walk north fast enough, or use more air conditioning,
to survive another 1 degree of warming in the next 100 years? Hilarious!

Tell me what survival pressure is causing humans to still evolve?

Yes, you were hit by a rock, sorry to hear that.

 

[Dagosa]

Humans can't walk north fast enough, or use more air conditioning,

Well obviously you can’t even walk to the library to get a text on evolution.

to survive another 1 degree of warming in the next 100 years? Hilarious!

You’re strange.

Tell me what survival pressure is causing humans to still evolve?

Read a book on it.

Yes, you were hit by a rock, sorry to hear that.

So, you never graduated from HS.
Home schooled ?

 

[jc456]

Same narrative. It never changed. You are just buried under a rock while climate change has always been about the increased rate of change faster that our species can adapt. That you are ignorant of evolution, just reinforces the chasm between the educated and you illiterates.

Are you suggesting climate didn’t ever change before humans existed? And you’re talking to me? Hahaha disinformation genius you are

 

[jc456]

Are you babbling again ?

It’s what you understand

 

[ReinyDays]

... Vikings colonized Greenland to resupply their ships ...

Just a nitpick ... the Norse colonies on Greenland were being supplied from ships ... food, metal and wood from Norway or Iceland ... they were not self-sufficient ...

The Little Ice Age is considered to be the main reason for dying off, though there were other reasons ... notably half of Iceland died of the Black Death ... just maybe that had something to do with the Greenland colonies dying off ... also note the Thule Nation lives there today, but I don't know how much support they get from the Norway/Denmark Commonwealth ...

What caused the Little Ice Age? ... did humans quit drinking beer? ... c'mon now, Alarmist say CO2 is the primary driver of climate change ... how did James Watts' steam engine in 1796 cause the Cold Snap in the 14th and 15th Centuries ... if you've got the answer, you should publish, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for this discovery ...