Classified Documents vs DeClassified Documents

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

 

[Augustine_]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

Lie to me harder, daddy!

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Lie to me harder, daddy!

You lie enough for a dozen platoons of DemonicRats.

 

[Augustine_]

You lie enough for a dozen platoons of DemonicRats.

Lol you people are completely fucking crazy

 

[MisterBeale]

Lie to me harder, daddy!

What part, precisely, are lies?

Trump’s Privilege Claims Are Beside the Point | National Review

Some of the documents seized in the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago may be covered by privilege — but all of them are the property of the government by law.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[Moonglow]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

The process doesn't work that way. These asshats of the echo chamber are lying to you and you eat it up.

 

[Delldude]

This is a good one, from Politico, of all sources:

Why Donald Trump’s declassification claim might not be that outlandish​

The Scooter Libby case under George W. Bush showed that presidents can declassify materials without a clear paper trail.

Why Donald Trump’s declassification claim might not be that outlandish

 

[Augustine_]

What part, precisely, are lies?

Trump’s Privilege Claims Are Beside the Point | National Review

Some of the documents seized in the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago may be covered by privilege — but all of them are the property of the government by law.

www.nationalreview.com

The part where he makes up a bunch of bullshit to claim the President has unlimited power like a king.

 

[MisterBeale]

The part where he makes up a bunch of bullshit to claim the President has unlimited power like a king.

I never heard any such thing in that video.

Go have your hearing checked.

As to the declass thing?

Do presidents have 'the ability to declassify anything'?

The blockbuster article in The Washington Post saying President Donald Trump had "revealed highly classified information

www.politifact.com

Presidential Power to Declassify Information, Explained (Published 2022)

In an interview, Mr. Trump again insisted that “I declassified everything.” He added that as president, “you can declassify just by saying ‘it’s declassified’ — even by thinking about it.”

www.nytimes.com

 

[Winston]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

This dude is completely unhinged. Look, since he was ten years old he has been able to PARROT, you got that, PARROT, right wing talking points. His day is coming, and I can't wait till it does.

 

[Winston]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

Oh damn, now he wants to claim the president has an unlimited power of declassification. Look, did he declassify the information or was it planted. I mean this dude is a complete fawking MORON.

 

[Winston]

Love this guy, he talks fast, but he explains things in detail
GO BEN!!



Trump took documents from the White House, under a standing order he made WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT, that anything he removed from the White House instantly became DEclassified.

NO, the president does not have the power to unilaterally declassify all information. Some information, especially COMPARTAMENTALIZED top secret information, is not within the purview of the president to declassify. Dude, this guy is a dumbass.

 

[Augustine_]

I never heard any such thing in that video.

Go have your hearing checked.

As to the declass thing?

Do presidents have 'the ability to declassify anything'?

The blockbuster article in The Washington Post saying President Donald Trump had "revealed highly classified information

www.politifact.com

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Presidential Power to Declassify Information, Explained (Published 2022)

In an interview, Mr. Trump again insisted that “I declassified everything.” He added that as president, “you can declassify just by saying ‘it’s declassified’ — even by thinking about it.”

www.nytimes.com

He should have no problem proving he declassified everything, then. Hell, you should submit a FOIA claim to view the seized nuclear secrets removed from Mar-a-Lago since they're no longer classified.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Lol you people are completely fucking crazy

Got to be crazy to allow you fuktards to exist and destroy at will!!!

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

NO, the president does not have the power to unilaterally declassify all information. Some information, especially COMPARTAMENTALIZED top secret information, is not within the purview of the president to declassify. Dude, this guy is a dumbass.

He was reading from government literature from the FBI itself, fuktard!!!

 

[Augustine_]

Got to be crazy to allow you fuktards to exist and destroy at will!!!

Again

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Again

Hear that? Your mommy is calling you. Time to change your diaper and go to bed.
I'm surprised she lets you get online all by yourself, especially being legally brain dead.

 

[Delldude]

NO, the president does not have the power to unilaterally declassify all information. Some information, especially COMPARTAMENTALIZED top secret information, is not within the purview of the president to declassify. Dude, this guy is a dumbass.

Really?

The president, as commander in chief, is ultimately responsible for classification and declassification. When people lower in the chain of command handle classification and declassification duties — which is usually how it’s done — it’s because they have been delegated to do so by the president directly, or by an appointee chosen by the president.

The majority ruling in the 1988 Supreme Court case Department of Navy v. Egan — which involved the legal recourse of a Navy employee who had been denied a security clearance — addresses this line of authority.

"The president, after all, is the ‘Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States’" according to Article II of the Constitution, the court’s majority wrote. "His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the president, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant."

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, told PolitiFact in 2017 that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."

Robert F. Turner, associate director of the University of Virginia's Center for National Security Law, told us in 2017 that "if Congress were to enact a statute seeking to limit the president’s authority to classify or declassify national security information, or to prohibit him from sharing certain kinds of information … it would raise serious separation of powers constitutional issues."

The official documents governing classification and declassification stem from presidential executive orders. But even these executive orders aren’t necessarily binding on a president. The president is not "obliged to follow any procedures other than those that he himself has prescribed," Aftergood said. "And he can change those."

PolitiFact - Could Trump argue he declassified the documents found in the Mar-a-Lago search?

 

[MisterBeale]

He should have no problem proving he declassified everything, then. Hell, you should submit a FOIA claim to view the seized nuclear secrets removed from Mar-a-Lago since they're no longer classified.

When you are at this point, making these sorts of arguments? It is clear to most rational folks, this is nothing but a banana republic motivated partisan political attack. It has nothing to do with "law," or "security."

 

[AsherN]

NO, the president does not have the power to unilaterally declassify all information. Some information, especially COMPARTAMENTALIZED top secret information, is not within the purview of the president to declassify. Dude, this guy is a dumbass.

Nuclear information is outside his purview. He CAN declassify anything else.

However, the normal way if for him to submit a memo to the agency(ies) having an interest. They will respond. The President can ignore the recommendation and order the de-classification. He can also decide unilaterally. But, there still needs to be a paper trail he has done so. You don't de-classify a piece of paper. You de-classify the information it contains. That de-classification must flow to every document containing that information.