Claimed value of sleepy NY estate could come to haunt Trump

The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.
 
They'll be talking about this forever....so long as the leftist propaganda machine knows they can write

Hasn’t been forever
Only a couple of weeks since SCOTUS ordered Trump to release his tax records that have been hidden behind Presidential immunity.

Afraid it is only the beginning
 
I'm sure this will be a "breaking story" on the Roger Madcow show. The leftists will believe every word Heshe says and it will turn out just like her last Trump tax return where we found out Trump paid millions more than Obama and Hitlery.
 
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.
What did Trump do, exactly?

A bank will not accept the valuation of an owner when looking to finance.

The tax office will not accept the valuation of an owner for tax purposes.
 
The amount of the tax deduction was based on the value of the 150 acres as assessed by the town, 21 million.
Who hired the appraiser that valued the property at 56 million? It had to have been the town correct?
You skipped the part that Trump valued the $56 million property at $250 million to Deutchebank, when seeking a loan secured by real property.
First you claim this ONLY relates to the 21 million assessed by the town.

Then you claim they assessed it at 56 million. (they didn't).

As far as inflating the value regarding mortgages...read the law. If you pay someone to inflate the value that's fraud.
It's the big One ! It really is ! Never give up hope ! All your dreams are about to come true! They really are!
 
Trump will not go to jail over this.
As usual, he will deny any knowledge, blame others, blame a witch hunt

He will be fined, he will tie it up in appeals and ultimately not pay.

Rinse/Repeat
Why should he go to jail over this accusation? I mean if this is all the left wing's investigation has turned up.....it's a big zero

It is just the tip of the iceberg

The TRUMP empire is a House of Cards built on the TRUMP name and false valuations of assets

This is just the first card
wow...five years and we are just at the "tip of the iceberg" - and this is it? nothing? hahaha

I've heard your line before over and over again the past five years,,,with a big zero in the end
Hidin'... like Biden? Sorry, Charlie that one
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.

Trump has been hiding for five years.
You can’t investigate ME.....I am the PRESIDENT

Well, he ain’t the President anymore
Private Citizen Trump now has to pay the piper
Sorry, Charlie. He gave at the office. Next fib!!!!
 
They'll be talking about this forever....so long as the leftist propaganda machine knows they can write

Hasn’t been forever
Only a couple of weeks since SCOTUS ordered Trump to release his tax records that have been hidden behind Presidential immunity.

Afraid it is only the beginning
YA GOT HIM THIS TIME, Wrongwinger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laughing0301:
 
Trump will not go to jail over this.
As usual, he will deny any knowledge, blame others, blame a witch hunt

He will be fined, he will tie it up in appeals and ultimately not pay.

Rinse/Repeat
Why should he go to jail over this accusation? I mean if this is all the left wing's investigation has turned up.....it's a big zero

It is just the tip of the iceberg

The TRUMP empire is a House of Cards built on the TRUMP name and false valuations of assets

This is just the first card
wow...five years and we are just at the "tip of the iceberg" - and this is it? nothing? hahaha

I've heard your line before over and over again the past five years,,,with a big zero in the end
Hidin'... like Biden? Sorry, Charlie that one
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.

Trump has been hiding for five years.
You can’t investigate ME.....I am the PRESIDENT

Well, he ain’t the President anymore
Private Citizen Trump now has to pay the piper
Sorry, Charlie. He gave at the office. Next fib!!!!
He gave nothing

He used his office to delay the release of his records
 
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.

Actually it's going to be just like every other leftists"We got him now" fake story that you morons fall for and we'll end up laughing at you just like the last 20 times.
 
More shenanigans...


Trump opted for a strategy that would allow him to keep the property but reduce his taxes. He granted an easement to a conservation land trust to preserve 158 acres (60 hectares) of meadows and mature forest.
Trump received a $21 million income tax deduction, equal to the value of the conserved land, according to property and court records. The amount was based on a professional appraisal that valued the full Seven Springs property at $56.5 million as of Dec. 1, 2015.
That was a much higher amount that the evaluation by local government assessors, who said the entire estate was worth $20 million.
Michael Colangelo, a lawyer in the New York attorney general's office, outlined the central question involving the Seven Springs easement at a hearing last year regarding a dispute over evidence.
“If the value of the easement was improperly inflated, who obtained the benefit from that improper inflation and in what amounts?” Colangelo said. “It goes without saying that the attorney general needs to see the records that would reflect the value of that deduction, as it flowed up to intermediate entities, and ultimately to Mr. Trump, personally.”
A message seeking comment was left with Trump’s spokesperson. In the past, the Republican ex-president has decried the investigations as part of a “witch hunt.”
Seven Springs caught investigators’ attention after Trump’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen told a congressional committee in 2019 that Trump had a habit of manipulating property values — inflating them in some cases and minimizing them in others to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
Cohen testified that Trump had financial statements saying Seven Springs was worth $291 million as of 2012. He gave copies of three of Trump's financial statements to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform during his testimony.
Cohen said the statements, from 2011, 2012 and 2013, were ones Trump gave to his main lender, Deutsche Bank, to inquire about a loan to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills and to Forbes magazine to substantiate his claim to a place on its list of the world's wealthiest people.

Trump, on his annual financial disclosure forms while president, said the property was worth between $25 million and $50 million.
Undervaluing properties for taxes and overvaluing properties for insurance is at the core of one of the investigations.

And they're looking very closely at Deutsche, which is the only bank that would go near him, and which has had other legal, uh, "issues".

:popcorn:

“We got him right where we want him this time!” -Episode 4897
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They'll be talking about this forever....so long as the leftist propaganda machine knows they can write

Hasn’t been forever
Only a couple of weeks since SCOTUS ordered Trump to release his tax records that have been hidden behind Presidential immunity.

Afraid it is only the beginning
YA GOT HIM THIS TIME, Wrongwinger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laughing0301:

Trump is not going to be a happy pappy

After hiding all records for four years, it is time to pay the piper. It ain’t going to be pretty
 
They'll be talking about this forever....so long as the leftist propaganda machine knows they can write

Hasn’t been forever
Only a couple of weeks since SCOTUS ordered Trump to release his tax records that have been hidden behind Presidential immunity.

Afraid it is only the beginning
YA GOT HIM THIS TIME, Wrongwinger!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laughing0301:

Trump is not going to be a happy pappy

After hiding all records for four years, it is time to pay the piper. It ain’t going to be pretty
Still waiting for you to explain what he did that was illegal.

The tax office doesn’t get their valuation from the property owner.

Banks don’t get their valuations from the borrower.

Once again ya got nothing.
 
Newsflash. Anyone running for president is going to invite more scrutiny.
No, any outsider running as a republican is going to get an anal exam from the washington establishment
 
More shenanigans...


Trump opted for a strategy that would allow him to keep the property but reduce his taxes. He granted an easement to a conservation land trust to preserve 158 acres (60 hectares) of meadows and mature forest.
Trump received a $21 million income tax deduction, equal to the value of the conserved land, according to property and court records. The amount was based on a professional appraisal that valued the full Seven Springs property at $56.5 million as of Dec. 1, 2015.
That was a much higher amount that the evaluation by local government assessors, who said the entire estate was worth $20 million.
Michael Colangelo, a lawyer in the New York attorney general's office, outlined the central question involving the Seven Springs easement at a hearing last year regarding a dispute over evidence.
“If the value of the easement was improperly inflated, who obtained the benefit from that improper inflation and in what amounts?” Colangelo said. “It goes without saying that the attorney general needs to see the records that would reflect the value of that deduction, as it flowed up to intermediate entities, and ultimately to Mr. Trump, personally.”
A message seeking comment was left with Trump’s spokesperson. In the past, the Republican ex-president has decried the investigations as part of a “witch hunt.”
Seven Springs caught investigators’ attention after Trump’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen told a congressional committee in 2019 that Trump had a habit of manipulating property values — inflating them in some cases and minimizing them in others to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
Cohen testified that Trump had financial statements saying Seven Springs was worth $291 million as of 2012. He gave copies of three of Trump's financial statements to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform during his testimony.
Cohen said the statements, from 2011, 2012 and 2013, were ones Trump gave to his main lender, Deutsche Bank, to inquire about a loan to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills and to Forbes magazine to substantiate his claim to a place on its list of the world's wealthiest people.

Trump, on his annual financial disclosure forms while president, said the property was worth between $25 million and $50 million.
Undervaluing properties for taxes and overvaluing properties for insurance is at the core of one of the investigations.

And they're looking very closely at Deutsche, which is the only bank that would go near him, and which has had other legal, uh, "issues".

:popcorn:

“We got him right where we want him this time!” -Episode 4897
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I didn't say that.

Do you ever stop lying? Do you do this in real life?
 
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.
Typical democrat telling stories backward. Where have you been the last four years? Everything you idiots come up with as a bombshell fizzles out like a popcorn fart in a hurricane. Every. Single. Time.
 
Trump will not go to jail over this.
As usual, he will deny any knowledge, blame others, blame a witch hunt

He will be fined, he will tie it up in appeals and ultimately not pay.

Rinse/Repeat
Why should he go to jail over this accusation? I mean if this is all the left wing's investigation has turned up.....it's a big zero

It is just the tip of the iceberg

The TRUMP empire is a House of Cards built on the TRUMP name and false valuations of assets

This is just the first card
wow...five years and we are just at the "tip of the iceberg" - and this is it? nothing? hahaha

I've heard your line before over and over again the past five years,,,with a big zero in the end
Hidin'... like Biden? Sorry, Charlie that one
The funny thing is that this is just like all the other Trump controversies. That people come out to defend Trump, only to have the story slowly unwind, and they switch from Trump didn't do it, to what's the big deal if he did.

Trump has been hiding for five years.
You can’t investigate ME.....I am the PRESIDENT

Well, he ain’t the President anymore
Private Citizen Trump now has to pay the piper
Sorry, Charlie. He gave at the office. Next fib!!!!
He gave nothing

He used his office to delay the release of his records
Everything the DA has, was filed with the proper Govt agencies already.

The same challenges he gave to Congress (which he won) and gave the NYC DA, are the same challenges any private citizen could have given.

Let's face it, after investigation, after investigation, after investigation for the past 6 years....this is all you have...that a professional appriaser valued a 50 plus million dollar property, a million more then the State? ooooook
 
NY State prosecutors just got Trumps tax returns. They are pouring over them with a fine toothed comb.

This is just the beginning of what is to come
Trump will claim ignorance and avoid jail. But the TRUMP empire is in jeopardy. The TRUMP House of Cards is ready to tumble

All they need to do to nail Rump is to flip Allen Weisselberg :)
 
More shenanigans...


Trump opted for a strategy that would allow him to keep the property but reduce his taxes. He granted an easement to a conservation land trust to preserve 158 acres (60 hectares) of meadows and mature forest.
Trump received a $21 million income tax deduction, equal to the value of the conserved land, according to property and court records. The amount was based on a professional appraisal that valued the full Seven Springs property at $56.5 million as of Dec. 1, 2015.
That was a much higher amount that the evaluation by local government assessors, who said the entire estate was worth $20 million.
Michael Colangelo, a lawyer in the New York attorney general's office, outlined the central question involving the Seven Springs easement at a hearing last year regarding a dispute over evidence.
“If the value of the easement was improperly inflated, who obtained the benefit from that improper inflation and in what amounts?” Colangelo said. “It goes without saying that the attorney general needs to see the records that would reflect the value of that deduction, as it flowed up to intermediate entities, and ultimately to Mr. Trump, personally.”
A message seeking comment was left with Trump’s spokesperson. In the past, the Republican ex-president has decried the investigations as part of a “witch hunt.”
Seven Springs caught investigators’ attention after Trump’s longtime personal lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen told a congressional committee in 2019 that Trump had a habit of manipulating property values — inflating them in some cases and minimizing them in others to gain favorable loan terms and tax benefits.
Cohen testified that Trump had financial statements saying Seven Springs was worth $291 million as of 2012. He gave copies of three of Trump's financial statements to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform during his testimony.
Cohen said the statements, from 2011, 2012 and 2013, were ones Trump gave to his main lender, Deutsche Bank, to inquire about a loan to buy the NFL's Buffalo Bills and to Forbes magazine to substantiate his claim to a place on its list of the world's wealthiest people.

Trump, on his annual financial disclosure forms while president, said the property was worth between $25 million and $50 million.

Do people think Trump is doing any of this shit or the people he pays?

The whole point of hiring lawyers and experts is to reduce liability. Which is why if Cohen was doing his job there will be nothing that sticks.
 
NY State prosecutors just got Trumps tax returns. They are pouring over them with a fine toothed comb.

This is just the beginning of what is to come
Trump will claim ignorance and avoid jail. But the TRUMP empire is in jeopardy. The TRUMP House of Cards is ready to tumble

All they need to do to nail Rump is to flip Allen Weisselberg :)

well that won't be easy. First they'd have to have enough to put his sons away or at least in court for a decade
 
NY State prosecutors just got Trumps tax returns. They are pouring over them with a fine toothed comb.

This is just the beginning of what is to come
Trump will claim ignorance and avoid jail. But the TRUMP empire is in jeopardy. The TRUMP House of Cards is ready to tumble

All they need to do to nail Rump is to flip Allen Weisselberg :)

well that won't be easy. First they'd have to have enough to put his sons away or at least in court for a decade

No flip is easy. But Allen & Sons are guilty of some pretty serious involvement.
Tell us where the bodies are Al!
 

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