CDZ Christian Hate Groups

[night_son]

Kristians will argue their body count in the last 25 years is lower than the body count of other religions.

Oh what a great god and religion you belong to where lower body count is the measuring stick.

Provided that you are a citizen of a western nation:

Please remember the leftist tendency to celebrate the secular nature of all western governments; particularly the American separation of church and state. Do body counts attributed to religion count at all when these governments of which you speak are historically, contemporarily secular? Furthermore, the American atheist, provided he is also a voter, is just as guilty of when his government let's fly the missiles as the Christian citizen who voted in the booth beside him. Neither Christian nor atheist can control his government's foreign policies, or can they?

Other side of the coin: non-secular religious governments of the east demonstrably fund terror which is killing in the name of.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I do look at this stuff as an affliction, a distortion of both perceptions and thought processes.

The problem here, at least this my guess, is that this isn't game-playing. These people REALLY DO believe this.

Humans can talk themselves into some pretty amazing things, and we see that manifest in our politics, right now, today.
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I see it also as the LACK of a thought process. These silly attitudes reflect the acceptance of dogma without any questioning and exist as little more than a conditioned response. Rather than asking themselves "what is hate and when is it or isn't justified?", people merely accept the interpretations of others as a part of the socialization process into their tribe. They don't form opinions from the top down, but from the bottom up, as they do not decide on values first and then extrapolate opinions but on the opinions first with the according need to form layers of sophistry around them in order not to offend the members of their tribe.

The entire nature of bigotry and hatred should follow some sort of logical process, yet it doesn't for these dolts. Question # 1 should be "is this an innate trait or an acquired?" and question # 2 should be "does this cause harm?". If a trait is innate and causes no harm, then yes, expressions of hatred against it are illogical and problematic. If a trait is acquired, but also harmless, then opposition to it may or may not rise to the level of hatred depending on how it is expressed. If a trait is acquired, however, and DOES cause harm, then calling the opposition to it "hate" is not only idiotic, but an actual expression of hate in and of itself.

Much of the left has become little more than virtue signaling tolerance junkies. It doesn't matter WHAT they tolerate, merely that they extend tolerance and receive props from their fellow sheeple for doing so. Good grief, we have some really twisted individuals defending the rape of children in this forum so desperate they are to feed their addiction. They are incapable of actual thought, but merely salivating like Pavlov's pooch to the dinner bell. They have been trained to see only identity and not behavior, and to defend the identity no matter the behavior in question. In the case of people acting on an ideology by engaging in repulsive behavior, these dolts defend it anyway, as they never asked themselves the two questions I posed above. As you and I have seen thousands of times, here, they then proceed to call the rejection of the hatefulness an act of hatred, and so lend themselves to the true hatred in question.

Agreed, and when I see this kind of behavior - which is regularly - I often find myself distracted away from the issue itself and attracted toward the motivations behind the behavior.

Your Pavlov's Dogs analogy is appropriate, in my opinion. One of the many symptoms of this affliction is a natural, canned, rehearsed and (most interestingly) predictable response to regular stimuli. The problem is that this type of intellectual myopia, at some point, seeps into the subconscious and becomes organic distortions of perceptions and thought processes. In other words, it becomes as much reality to the afflicted as does the fact that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

THAT'S why they can be so passionate and seem so sincere, regardless of how absurd their behaviors can be- they're being perfectly honest, within the confines of their affliction.
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The twisted psychology of the true believer can lead to some amazing contradictions when viewed from outside, can't it? Doublethink is becoming hardwired to an ever increasing degree in the orthodoxy of so much of the left, and I do not see that as a good thing.

Watching some of the reactions of the true believers in this forum, the mere act of acquiring knowledge of a subject is terrifying to them, as they respond n very phobic ways to anything that would call into question their doublethink.

I recall one thread in which I introduced John Stuart Mill and John Rawls into the conversation, only to be assailed by leftists who had heard of neither, but opposed them out of hand. You see, they did not wish to understand the ideological underpinnings of actual liberalism as that would entail the risk of cognitive dissonance as the immense gulf between actual liberalism and their group think was exposed. The usual posters and moderators mocked the very notion that there IS any sort of basis for liberalism as all that mattered to them was knowing what they were expected to say and what they weren't.

We are truly living in Orwellian times when it is now the left that despises liberalism.

 

[Mac1958]

We are truly living in Orwellian times when it is now the left that despises liberalism.

Yes, and that fact presents a real problem to people like me.

The very traits that used to define liberalism - an open mind, tolerance, curiosity, empathy, positiveness, and (most important, of course) a passionate defense of unencumbered freedom of expression for ALL - have simply left the building. Poof. You could see it coming, you could see it growing, but here it is, right now.
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[jwoodie]

Boycotting businesses because of their political beliefs is a basic tenet of the Religion of the Left.

 

[Picaro]

I do look at this stuff as an affliction, a distortion of both perceptions and thought processes.

The problem here, at least this my guess, is that this isn't game-playing. These people REALLY DO believe this.

Humans can talk themselves into some pretty amazing things, and we see that manifest in our politics, right now, today.
.

I see it also as the LACK of a thought process. These silly attitudes reflect the acceptance of dogma without any questioning and exist as little more than a conditioned response. Rather than asking themselves "what is hate and when is it or isn't justified?", people merely accept the interpretations of others as a part of the socialization process into their tribe. They don't form opinions from the top down, but from the bottom up, as they do not decide on values first and then extrapolate opinions but on the opinions first with the according need to form layers of sophistry around them in order not to offend the members of their tribe.

The entire nature of bigotry and hatred should follow some sort of logical process, yet it doesn't for these dolts. Question # 1 should be "is this an innate trait or an acquired?" and question # 2 should be "does this cause harm?". If a trait is innate and causes no harm, then yes, expressions of hatred against it are illogical and problematic. If a trait is acquired, but also harmless, then opposition to it may or may not rise to the level of hatred depending on how it is expressed. If a trait is acquired, however, and DOES cause harm, then calling the opposition to it "hate" is not only idiotic, but an actual expression of hate in and of itself.

Much of the left has become little more than virtue signaling tolerance junkies. It doesn't matter WHAT they tolerate, merely that they extend tolerance and receive props from their fellow sheeple for doing so. Good grief, we have some really twisted individuals defending the rape of children in this forum so desperate they are to feed their addiction. They are incapable of actual thought, but merely salivating like Pavlov's pooch to the dinner bell. They have been trained to see only identity and not behavior, and to defend the identity no matter the behavior in question. In the case of people acting on an ideology by engaging in repulsive behavior, these dolts defend it anyway, as they never asked themselves the two questions I posed above. As you and I have seen thousands of times, here, they then proceed to call the rejection of the hatefulness an act of hatred, and so lend themselves to the true hatred in question.

Agreed, and when I see this kind of behavior - which is regularly - I often find myself distracted away from the issue itself and attracted toward the motivations behind the behavior.

Your Pavlov's Dogs analogy is appropriate, in my opinion. One of the many symptoms of this affliction is a natural, canned, rehearsed and (most interestingly) predictable response to regular stimuli. The problem is that this type of intellectual myopia, at some point, seeps into the subconscious and becomes organic distortions of perceptions and thought processes. In other words, it becomes as much reality to the afflicted as does the fact that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

THAT'S why they can be so passionate and seem so sincere, regardless of how absurd their behaviors can be- they're being perfectly honest, within the confines of their affliction.
.

The twisted psychology of the true believer can lead to some amazing contradictions when viewed from outside, can't it? Doublethink is becoming hardwired to an ever increasing degree in the orthodoxy of so much of the left, and I do not see that as a good thing.

Watching some of the reactions of the true believers in this forum, the mere act of acquiring knowledge of a subject is terrifying to them, as they respond n very phobic ways to anything that would call into question their doublethink.

I recall one thread in which I introduced John Stuart Mill and John Rawls into the conversation, only to be assailed by leftists who had heard of neither, but opposed them out of hand. You see, they did not wish to understand the ideological underpinnings of actual liberalism as that would entail the risk of cognitive dissonance as the immense gulf between actual liberalism and their group think was exposed. The usual posters and moderators mocked the very notion that there IS any sort of basis for liberalism as all that mattered to them was knowing what they were expected to say and what they weren't.

We are truly living in Orwellian times when it is now the left that despises liberalism.

The Commies always made it plain they had to go after the liberals first in their agendas; they consider them to be their biggest 'competitors' and threats to power.

 

[sartre play]

Who needs to count hate groups, there is plenty of hate from all sides, hate is the go to default setting. we are tearing our country apart.

 

[seaofnails]

I have read many of the posts here and I agree with some of the views.

But what's the difference in Prostitution and Sharing needles. ? it's all -The Same / - Blood Crimes.

The Same exacT results are diseases spread, germs, bacterium, illness, and sickness through contact with an infected individuals blood.

Sodomy, for example, can also be - a BLOOD Crime. Penetrating the Fecal orbit - Anus of many, many different tYpe people and spreading the DIFFERENT STRAINS of combined, gathered germs, bacterium and anal parasites to knowing and unknowing victims. Is a BLOOD CRIME. The People in Biblical time did what was necessary to keep their people safe from Germs, Bacterium, Diseases, Plagues, AND Sickness and Self-destruction.

People from different camps, villages, towns, cities, countries, continents are gathering various types of feces into their bodies and demanding that it is Love. to be shared and spread around. This is all explained in the BIBLE... Why pretend to have SCRIPTURES for ones CLAIMS. ? when one only - misrepresents the Bible. Please understand - Who can complain about a Group of people who EXCLUDE Dangerous Behaving People from their Society. Who are spreading diseases, sickness and plagues, and germs among the families? This is what the Law of Moses CLEARLY Defined.

Cleaning pots, pans, vessels, Washing, BATHING Every Single time after SEX, Washing after touching Dead People or animals. Keeping away from other people if You touch a Dead ROTTING Animal. Making sure to Mary a virgin or a widow. No sex with Animals. No gay sex. -And when any man has a discharge from his body, his discharge is unclean. And whoever touches his bed shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, Whoever sits on anything that is unclean shall wash his clothes and bathe in water, and bathe his body in running water ...................... 'If any man has an emission of semen, then he shall wash all his body in water, and be unclean until evening. And any garment and any leather on which there is semen, it shall be washed with water. -------- - 'If a woman has a discharge, and the discharge from her body is blood - everything that she sits on shall be unclean.

the LAW was to --- ___ ** separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness, lest they die in their uncleanness. Don't Eat bats, Lions, Cats, Rats, Eel, stingray, and catfish fishes with no fins and scales) Snakes. Don't Eat Raw Blood.
Please don't misrepresent the Bible. The Translations are bad enough.

I still Believe that Abraham cannot be Blamed for the Danger that other who refuse to follow the guidelines of the World Health Organization and the American Health Organization and that they bring Upon themselves their own doom while they demand the rights to deceive others.

I agree that religious people can be unkind - and hypocrites, however, if we study the Bible and don't focus only upon flawed religious people, we can learn about the problems that the Biblical Characters faced and what was needed to keep them healthy and safe - as others around them were dying of plagues, sicknesses, and symptoms in a violent world of the Canaanite.

Zechariah 14:21 .............. and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

 

[AZGAL]

You are living in a dream world Buddy. Omar Mateem was a Muslim terrorist who plotted for months to kill gays in a nightclub.

...from actual witness acounts, the muslim terrorist who attacked the Pulse Nightclub did not know it was a gay nightclub....he went there the night of the attack, noticed all the men, and asked where all the women were....he left to get his guns and came back....

 

[Picaro]

We are truly living in Orwellian times when it is now the left that despises liberalism.

Yes, and that fact presents a real problem to people like me.

The very traits that used to define liberalism - an open mind, tolerance, curiosity, empathy, positiveness, and (most important, of course) a passionate defense of unencumbered freedom of expression for ALL - have simply left the building. Poof. You could see it coming, you could see it growing, but here it is, right now.
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Actually what a lot of sociopaths rely on is what is called 'underdog liberalism', the stupid myth that 'oppressed minorities', even completely fabricated ones like homosexuals and their fellow pedophiles, are somehow exalted to higher moralities or something, that being 'oppressed' is a sign of boundless virtue and entitlement, and actually 'deserve special rights over and above the norm, and are exempt from any criticism or blame for anything ; this is merely Gramscian manipulation, psycho-babble, and media rubbish. It's easy to ape, just use 'NAMBLA logic' and proceed to carry circular reasoning to ridiculous extremes. Most people aren't educated enough to recognize the gimmick, they're just taught to respond to buzz words, like trained dogs.

Sorry, but nobody need be 'tolerant' of gangbangers just because all of them in some given area are 'black' or brown', nobody needs to be 'tolerant' and 'understanding' of pedophiles, bank robbers, nasty manifestations of mental illnesses in public, etc. Being 'Oppressed' never made anybody 'better' or ennobled' them, despite all the media rubbish stories claiming otherwise. That stuff has nothing to do with Liberalism itself, it's just culture war nonsense made up by neurotics and sickos themselves.

Why didn't turning Affirmative Action into a quota system work? It's a miserable failure, which is why genuine Liberals fought the radicals tooth and nail against quota system; they knew what bureaucrats wanted to do with quotas, especially re govt. contracts and the school systems. The radicals defeated the 'liberals' and got Nixon elected, and he gave them everything they wanted, from the 'War On Drugs' to the quota system within days after being sworn in.

And today we find both the 'Progressives' and the 'GOP' both fawning over the likes of Red China ... obviously this is going to be the case when all human life is reduced to being valued only for its 'economic usefulness'. The right wingers are more Marxist than the Marxists are.

 

[seaofnails]

Yes. Picaro - without a doubt You are right.

After the Civil War was over - The Democrat Party in the South feel into such an economic depression and economic downfall -

they had lost the hundreds of thousands of slaves that they had used to build up their economy - after relying upon the slaves for hundreds of years.

Today The Liberal Socialist Democrats party is continuing to use people, just as they did in SLAVERY. They have found for a long time that making a business model of running around in a frenzied mocking and scornful, self - induced - pretended panic - - they attempt to take up a universial collection of the REPUBLICAN TAXPAYER TREASURES by representing every form of victimhood and poverty status that they can invent or possibly imagine. And it is all about selective morality,

The Liberal Democrat Socialist Political Party - also wishes to create a " POLITICAL " business plan - in their districts, cities, towns and even whole states - that are following an ideology of making money on the side - as a part of the government system - as if the entire STATE or entire DEMOCRAT VOTER ENTITY are all working together as a part of the Government financial funding collection - RECEIVING - and distributing - dispensations agency - They want to receive CREDIT for collecting Your money, handling Your money, counting Your money - and also for giving away Your money.

Then they want to get paid to devise ways to hide and cover up - how much money they have collected, where they actually spent the money and how much money they have left over and where it is going.

The average Democrat Voter is of the mentality that just because their own failed and indebted, declined government programs and businesses are helping people - then this is all that it needs to do - this is simply all that needs to be done in order to continue to collect national taxpayers funds to continue their programs and also continue to bring in many more poor and needy people into their cities - in order to also collect and sift, funnel, direct and flow - even more, taxpayers funds through their hands.

This is distribution equality - socialism, - communism, - and Liberal Democrat Socialism.

They never feel responsible for any debt or failures - because they are too busy being victims who help other victims, while never considering that they have to change their lifestyles and actions in order to succeed. The Slave TRADE IDEOLOGY of the Democrat Party has not changed since the civil war =

Today, they just want to enslave the Republican voter - and after having lost all of their slaves - they did nothing more but simply run from the battlefield and abandoned their own empty fields - no longer filled with slaves and Democrats suddenly start grabbing poor and needy victims from other countries - and use them to make demands that hard - working Americans should begin helping them too.

But - The Democrat Party did not offer to repay the freed slaves and did not offer to reimburse them and provide anything for them - why should Democrats today - have the right to take money from anyone and receive a job and a career by getting paid to collect, handle and count - and wildly and fanatically, hand out and FLING around others hard earned money - that they earned with the work of their own hands ? In essence - Liberal Democrats want to devise business plans also with Your money - wherein that - they attach “ CLASSIFIED MATERIAL CLASSIFICATIONS “ onto their statements of financial activities - in order to hide what they are doing with Your money - regarding anything.

Hillary Clinton and Her party simply CHARGED the taxpayer to take a nationwide sledge hammer to the records and to all data - that show their true activities. - Then they charge You for the newly elected government to attempt to figure out what records and data they destroyed.

Just as long as You do not receive your wasted money back - democrats are happy- this was always their only goal.

 

[seaofnails]

Hello - DandyDonovan " I understand Your point.

However - The Republicans are simply stating that - it not fair that we call out / accuse - Christians as being - " hate organizations or terrorists organizations "

Because American Christians are not participating in terrorism and hate - Christians believe that it is not fair that we be labeled as - terrorists and hate organizations.

Also - The - ' American Family Association ' are boycotting Target because Target is allowing men to enter the private bathroom of their daughters and wives - This is supposed to be a private, clean, controlled environment for daughters and wives where fully grown men are not allowed to enter into a room where they possibly place them in danger.

If a supermarket security camera attendant sees a grown man entering into a woman’s restroom and He is not supposed to go in there - The security personnel can go to the restroom and make sure that a 11-year-old little girl is safe and get that man out.

But if many multiple men are allowed to be using the women’s restrooms within a six-hour period it makes Americans feel uncomfortable because there is no way to pinpoint who may have committed a sexual assault - because a handful of men could have been in the restroom when the rape or assault was committed. Men can work in groups or RAPE GANGS in order to protect another male who has committed an assault. And the rapist could also cover the little girls’ mouth or knock her unconscious in the private stall and commit a number of rape activities - just by keeping her feet elevated above the viewpoint at the bottom of the stall.

it would be difficult if not impossible to have an early prevention procedure - if many men are entering in and out of a woman’s restroom at a time. And the same goes for little girls and women entering into a men’s restroom. Men must be kept out of women's private areas - especially when rape is very common in the USA.

One in five women and one in 71 men will be raped at some point in their lives.

In the U.S., one in three women and one in six men experienced some form of contact sexual violence in their lifetime.

91% of victims of rape and sexual assault are female, and nine percent are male.

But You are right - Many RELIGIOUS DAYCARE CENTERS and Private Schools - do have abuse and neglect in their procedures and operations. But abuse and neglect takes place in the Government facilities as well. However - the Government is not held accountable and punished and fined and shut down for the ABUSE - that takes place across the thousands of PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND DAYCARE .


The most widely cited study available, conducted in 2004 by the U.S. Education Department, estimated that 1-in-10 students will be sexually abused by a teacher during their years in school.

A Crisis As Millions Of Students Abused By Teachers | Investor's Business Daily.

AP uncovers 17,000 reports of sexual assaults at schools across US

AP uncovers 17,000 reports of sexual assaults at schools across US | Boston.com

Sexual Abuse by Teachers is on the Rise - just under 500 educators were arrested in 2015

Of children in 8th through 11th grade, about 3.5 million students (nearly 7%) surveyed reported having had physical sexual contact from an adult (most often a teacher or coach).

Sexual Abuse by Teachers is on the Rise - The Children's Center for Psychiatry, Delray Beach, FL

Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse In School?
"The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests." CHILD ABUSE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS - is a "Nationwide Teacher Molestation Cover-up" Has Media Ignored Sex Abuse In School?
& Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests

More abuse has taken place in PUBLIC DAYCARE AND PUBLIC SCHOOL than could ever be imagined in the PRIVATE SECTOR. This is a natural cause and effect that occurs when You have thousands of people that You do not know and who not held accountable and who are understaffed and GOVERNMENT FUNDED,

GOVERNMENT ONLY SEEKS TO PROVE - GOVERNMENT IS THE ONLY GOD THAT IS UNCHALLENGED AND UNACCOUNTABLE. When the program or procedure fails - Only the private society is expected to fall upon it's own swords. Their property, accounts are seized and they are shut down permanitly - The Government has no accountabilty. Who is The God - here ? GOD. Government simply hires more perverts to take the place of the previous perverts.

public daycare abuse statistics - Google Search

 

[sartre play]

People who are different have been using public bathrooms for ever, because they are such a tiny percentage of the population this has never been a problem, been on this planet for a long time & Never experienced or had any one else tell me about a problem they have had. am sure you could find some rare scarce occurrence. but you can find rare cases where someone has killed & eaten a person. you have to keep some perspective on things that get you so upset.