Chris Christie for President!

[SassyIrishLass]

I can respect Toro for that. Toro is a Republican.

Christie was not the world’s worse governor of New Jersey, either. Never liked him myself. But I never saw him as a threat to the nation or our democracy like Trump is. He was just a clever Republican politician and a bit of an arrogant fat bully … like Trump himself. But Christie never went completely overboard. He was not crazy.

I hated to see Christie support Trump early on, but back then lots of Republicans thought Trump would be redeemable and learn to work with others and act like a President and not a spoiled child.

“The Donald” had given financial support and worked closely with Democrats for years in NYC. Trump for decades was far closer to Democrats than Christie had been in New Jersey. Christie was actually harder on Dems than Trump for his whole career! And he had been that way even while having to fight to get legislation passed and administer a densely populated and historically Democratic state. That showed executive and political skill!

Trump just had the “acting ability” and the demagogic chops to tap deeply into all the disgruntled manias of unsung losers and the “left-out American Everyman.” He also had his own manic drive and lack of principles to change his position on most anything to get elected. So he overnight became a hero to Southern Christian Fundamentalists and anti-abortionist fanatics, and railed against Democrats he had praised a few years before and for decades.

Trump even said some good things early on that I agreed with. So far as I remember, Christie actually did some good things in New Jersey … though I can’t remember any details now. I suppose Toro can remind us …

Roflmao , Todo is no republican

 

[Shelby86]

Christy

Of course, he has no chance.

Well, you could vote for the Democrat candidate, like you did in 2016.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

This is Toro 2.0
We all noticed a long time ago.
The original Toro prior to around 2018 or so was almost exclusively talking economics, higher politics, not the meaningless low brow shit he does now - or in the Flame Zone.
Toro 2.0 is either the same person (doubt it) that was broken by Trump and is possessed with him and "Maga" - or he gave his signin to someone else (more likely)
I had numerous conversations with the original Toro - sharp dude. Certainly one of the most knowledgeable concerning economics and when discussing politics, was very specific in addressing issues. Stayed away from the mud slinging and nonsense.
Today - pheh - all TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.... MAGA MAGA MAGA.
I actually hope it isn't the same person.

I wouldn’t know about that, nor does it matter much to me, as I wasn’t here that long ago. Actually I think Trump “has broken” … many people.

He’s broken my own expectation that most Republican voters can be relied upon to see the obvious danger to our nation and national cohesion that Trump now represents, or be wise enough to defend our “democracy” and “the rule of law” and even cherished representative republican institutions should a crisis arise over this obnoxious whining crybaby with his siren calls for “revenge.”

If I were a modern Republican, I too would be attracted to Christie and others with the balls to say “Enough!” to this ridiculous demagogue.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I wouldn’t know about that, nor does it matter much to me, as I wasn’t here for that long. Actually I think Trump “has broken” … many people.

He’s broken my own expectation that most Republican voters can be relied upon to see the obvious danger to our nation and national cohesion that Trump now represents, or be wise enough to defend our “democracy” and “the rule of law” and even cherished representative republican institutions should a crisis arise over this obnoxious whining crybaby with his siren calls for “revenge.”

If I were a modern Republican, I too would be attracted to Christie and others with the balls to say “Enough!” to this ridiculous demagogue.

Cool story... but your expectation that most Democrat voters can be relied upon is unaffected by running Hillary and now Biden???

 

[Independent thinker]

Of course, he has no chance. He’s telling MAGA what they don’t want to hear. MAGA would rather live in an alternative reality echo chamber filled with grievance, whiny sell-pity and conspiracy theories.

What an embarrassment today’s conservative movement has become.

I'm not MAGA but Chris Christie is a fat idiot.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Cool story... but your expectation that most Democrat voters can be relied upon is unaffected by running Hillary and now Biden???

There’s a lot about the Democratic Party, the DNC, Hillary (who I refused to vote for in 2016) and Biden that I really hate. Many regular Democratic voters also suffer from being brainwashed by their own media and have their own ridiculous cultural manias. But in my opinion Trump has brought his present problems unto himself.

It would have been much better for the country, however, if Trump had been found guilty in the Senate after his 2nd Impeachment — which evidently even Mitch McConnell originally expected would happen.

 

[g5000]

Christie doesn't have a chance, but I enjoy watching him kick Trump in his tiny nuts every day.

I hope he stays in the race for as long as possible.

 

[Failzero]

Christie doesn't have a chance, but I enjoy watching him kick Trump in his tiny nuts every day.

I hope he stays in the race for as long as possible.

Just as I hope others join RFK Jr. in the Dem POTUS Primary process

 

[g5000]

Just as I hope others join RFK Jr. in the Dem POTUS Primary process

The only people who like RFK, Jr are MAGA whackjobs who know nothing about him except his Covid conspiracy theories.

 

[whitehall]

If you are a sneaky pretend republican you might like a loser like Christie. Polling data indicates that he is around 2 1/2 %

 

[iamwhatiseem]

There’s a lot about the Democratic Party, the DNC, Hillary (who I refused to vote for in 2016) and Biden that I really hate. Many regular Democratic voters also suffer from being brainwashed by their own media and have their own ridiculous cultural manias. But in my opinion Trump has brought his present problems unto himself.

It would have been much better for the country, however, if Trump had been found guilty in the Senate after his 2nd Impeachment — which evidently even Mitch McConnell originally expected would happen.

No
If you expect that level of jurisprudence in Washington than, literally, half of the Democrat congress would also have to be indicted for fraud in the RussiaGate.
See how that works? You can't have it one way.
That is THE problem I have with never Trumpers, they want to hold Trump to exacting law with full punishment, and shrug their shoulders when Democrats have, literally, done the exact same crime(s) or of equal crimes.

 

[22lcidw]

I can respect Toro for that. Toro is a Republican.

Christie was not the world’s worse governor of New Jersey, either. Never liked him myself. But I never saw him as a threat to the nation or our democracy like Trump is. He was just a clever Republican politician and a bit of an arrogant fat bully … like Trump himself. But Christie never went completely overboard. He was not crazy.

I hated to see Christie support Trump early on, but back then lots of Republicans thought Trump would be redeemable and learn to work with others and act like a President and not a spoiled child.

“The Donald” had given financial support and worked closely with Democrats for years in NYC. Trump for decades was far closer to Democrats than Christie had been in New Jersey. Christie was actually harder on Dems than Trump for his whole career! And he had been that way even while having to fight to get legislation passed and administer a densely populated and historically Democratic state. That showed executive and political skill!

Trump just had the “acting ability” and the demagogic chops to tap deeply into all the disgruntled manias of unsung losers and the “left-out American Everyman.” He also had his own manic drive and lack of principles to change his position on most anything to get elected. So he overnight became a hero to Southern Christian Fundamentalists and anti-abortionist fanatics, and railed against Democrats he had praised a few years before and for decades.

Trump even said some good things early on that I agreed with. So far as I remember, Christie actually did some good things in New Jersey … though I can’t remember any details now. I suppose Toro can remind us … ?

It still has not occurred to you that Trump in reality was not a conservative. He did however promote our nation as a Free and Sovereign one. A nation with one major language. that is important. And a nation with a common culture that we all assimilate into. Of course, there can be some differences and traditions. This is what our nation is. And then the infection came in to destroy us. Watch if the money slows. And see the love festering from all of the vile false hate foisted on people. All of us know when there is hate done to us. We have to experience it. And maybe that is why what is happening was easy to promote. Many people who have affected others' lives in the wrong way have gotten away with it. For now. The new nation that will form will not be nice.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

He should pursue things he's better at.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Of course, he has no chance. He’s telling MAGA what they don’t want to hear. MAGA would rather live in an alternative reality echo chamber filled with grievance, whiny sell-pity and conspiracy theories.

What an embarrassment today’s conservative movement has become.

If it were between Fatso and Pedo Joe -- I wouldn't vote. Two peas in a pod.

 

[Papageorgio]

Oh God no

Why not? He is not Trump and he is not Biden, two really stellar qualifications.

 

[petro]

They are all fucking slime.

Doesn't matter who wins the next election. The results are always the same...
More government
More control
More taxes
More debt
More corruption
And more importantly



Less freedom.


Dump the damn R and D's.
Enough of the Uniparty.

 

[Lesh]

Why not? He is not Trump and he is not Biden, two really stellar qualifications.

I lived in Jersey when he was Gov. No thanks

 

[Flash]

Of course, he has no chance. He’s telling MAGA what they don’t want to hear. MAGA would rather live in an alternative reality echo chamber filled with grievance, whiny sell-pity and conspiracy theories.

What an embarrassment today’s conservative movement has become.

In Commie New Jersey being a Republican means you are really a Democrat.

Dat boy screwed himself a long time ago when he was anti right to keep and bears arms. He has no credibility.

Just another RINO piece of shit. Better than a Democrat but not by much.

 

[Lesh]

In Commie New Jersey being a Republican means you are really a Democrat.

Dat boy screwed himself a long time ago when he was anti right to keep and bears arms. He has no credibility.

Just another RINO piece of shit. Better than a Democrat but not by much.

You don’t know anything about New Jersey apparently

 

[Flash]

They are all fucking slime.

Doesn't matter who wins the next election. The results are always the same...
More government
More control
More taxes
More debt
More corruption
And more importantly



Less freedom.


Dump the damn R and D's.
Enough of the Uniparty.

You are right, unfortunately.

There is only party. The Party of Big Government. The Democrats are the bat shit crazy branch and the Republicans are the more moderate branch but both branches will screw the American people.

No matter who is in charge of the government the size of the federal government grows, we have high taxation, we have a massive bloated welfare state and we have tremendous debt. Not to mention all the corruption and absolutely wasted money.