CCP may be desperate enough to start a war to save itself

[Tommy Tainant]

TheUS is more likely to invade Greenland, and Panama and annex Canada and Gaza as well.
To distract from its tanking economy.

 

[JoeB131]

Can you refute the following?

Well, this statement isn't accurate.

First, China HAS gone to war within my lifetime. twice. Once in 1962 against India, and once against Vietnam in 1979.

While China is admirable in how it has elevated the standard of living of its people, the fact is they are still pretty far behind us in quality of life, which is why so many Chinese are desperate to get into this country.

Most of the rest of his statement I agree with, but China enjoys nowhere near the level of freedom Americans enjoy.

If you posted the kind of tweet in China that this guy did criticizing the Chinese government, you would probably be getting a very unpleasant visit from the police.

 

[gipper]

Well, this statement isn't accurate.

First, China HAS gone to war within my lifetime. twice. Once in 1962 against India, and once against Vietnam in 1979.

While China is admirable in how it has elevated the standard of living of its people, the fact is they are still pretty far behind us in quality of life, which is why so many Chinese are desperate to get into this country.

Most of the rest of his statement I agree with, but China enjoys nowhere near the level of freedom Americans enjoy.

If you posted the kind of tweet in China that this guy did criticizing the Chinese government, you would probably be getting a very unpleasant visit from the police.

At any rate, China is nowhere near as warlike as the US. Since 2001 when the US started its phony war on terror, China hasn’t killed anyone in war. They haven’t imposed any economic sanctions on any nation. They haven’t committed any coups. Now compare that to the US.

If you can’t see the pattern our government and media are implementing, I can’t help you. The pattern of demonizing a nation the neocons want destroyed. They’re doing it with China, just as they’ve done it multiple times before with other nation.

Besides, Americans are rapidly losing their rights as is evidenced by those opposing Israel’s genocide.

Expect Them To Lie About China Just Like They Lied About Gaza​

CAITLIN JOHNSTONE APR 12

As Washington’s cold war with China escalates, we can expect to see a massively reinvigorated anti-China propaganda campaign in the west. As this unfolds, please know that everything you learned about the mass media’s dishonesty regarding Gaza is equally true of empire-targeted nations like China.
If your eyes were newly opened by the Gaza holocaust, the most important thing to understand is that Gaza isn’t some unusual aberration in the behavior of the mass media and the western war machine. They’re always doing things like this. The empire is always inflicting horrific evils upon people in the global south, and the mass media always help them lie about it. Gaza is just more obvious because it’s history’s first live-streamed genocide. But you need to understand that the empire and its propaganda machine have been doing this sort of thing this whole time all around the world, and will continue to.
Aggressively question every new narrative that emerges about China, in the same way you’ve learned to aggressively question every new narrative Israel releases about Gaza and Hamas. Question everything you’ve ever been taught about China throughout your life, in the same way you’ve learned to question everything you were taught about Israel. If you are sincere and open to the possibility of proving yourself wrong, you will find that many of the beliefs you’ve been indoctrinated about regarding China were misinformed.
The new cold war has been in the works for a very long time, and the propaganda machine is locked and loaded.

 

[JoeB131]

At any rate, China is nowhere near as warlike as the US. Since 2001 when the US started its phony war on terror, China hasn’t killed anyone in war. They haven’t imposed any economic sanctions on any nation. They haven’t committed any coups. Now compare that to the US.

Phony war on terror? Did you miss that whole thing that happened on 9/11/2001, because it was in all the papers.

 

[gipper]

Phony war on terror? Did you miss that whole thing that happened on 9/11/2001, because it was in all the papers.

So in your world, what the US did and is doing in the ME is justified because of 9/11. I hope not and I think not.

Hopefully you’ve seen this video before…

 

[gipper]

I never heard of Caitlin Johnstone before so I looked her up

In her own words she’s left of center on most issues and very anti American

The last part is only my opinion, because she strongly denies it as most libs do

She hates trump and hates Israel so she’s no friend of mine

Sort of Mac1958 with an Australian accent

I’m sure you know no one in the alternative media. Your continued ignorant posts indicate you only consume corporate media, which apparently you don’t know is controlled by the establishment.

Try to focus, if that’s possible. Attacking the source without ever addressing the point made by the source, is dishonest and ignorant.

 

[Mac-7]

I’m sure you know no one in the alternative media. Your continued ignorant posts indicate you only consume corporate media, which apparently you don’t know is controlled by the establishment.

Try to focus, if that’s possible. Attacking the source without ever addressing the point made by the source, is dishonest and ignorant.

I did not attack the woman

Or at least not too harshly

A very unknown person is used to attack trump and I think she needed to be identified

 

[gipper]

I did not attack the woman

Or at least not too harshly

A very unknown person is used to attack trump and I think she needed to be identified

I know you’re slow, but could you refute any of the points she made?

 

[Mac-7]

I know you’re slow, but could you refute any of the points she made?

For instance?

 

[JoeB131]

So in your world, what the US did and is doing in the ME is justified because of 9/11. I hope not and I think not.

Hopefully you’ve seen this video before…

 

[Hector12]

I guess.

Xi really isn't the problem here.

The problem is that the West doesn't understand why Taiwan is an important issue to China.

Taiwan is an important issue for the Chinese dictatorship. because Taiwan demonstrates what the Chinese are capable of. Taiwan has a democratic government, and a per capita income estimated by the IMF of $34,924, The corresponding number for Communist China is $13,873.

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hector12]

No, because the British took it from them, that's the point.

There are only 3800 people living on those Islands. They can be relocated for far cheaper than what the UK spends defending it.

The point is that they want to live on the Falklands. They don't want to be part of Argentina.

 

[JoeB131]

Taiwan is an important issue for the Chinese dictatorship. because Taiwan demonstrates what the Chinese are capable of. Taiwan has a democratic government, and a per capita income estimated by the IMF of $34,924, The corresponding number for Communist China is $13,873.

Per capita doesn't mean as much as you think.

The problem is China has had a long history of incursions on her sovereignty, starting with the First Opium War and ending with the Japanese invasion that preceded World War II.

We see some horsehit about "Democracy" and "Capitalism".

They see another case of foreigners disrespecting China's sovereignty.

The point is that they want to live on the Falklands. They don't want to be part of Argentina.

Too bad. Borders are redrawn all the time and people are often not happy.

 

[Hector12]

Per capita doesn't mean as much as you think.

The problem is China has had a long history of incursions on her sovereignty, starting with the First Opium War and ending with the Japanese invasion that preceded World War II.

We see some horsehit about "Democracy" and "Capitalism".

They see another case of foreigners disrespecting China's sovereignty.

The people of Taiwan do not want to be governed by the Chinese dictatorship any more than the people of the Ukraine want to be governed by the dictatorship of Russia.

 

[gipper]

View attachment 1099661

Dumb. Try to think better.

 

[Hector12]

Hamas Is Underground So Why Is Israel Leveling Gaza Buildings?​

Israel is leveling Gaza buildings because Hamas terrorists are hiding in them. Besides, the Israelis want to deport the Palestinians so that they can reannex Gaza.

 

[gipper]

Israel is leveling Gaza buildings because Hamas terrorists are hiding in them. Besides, the Israelis want to deport the Palestinians so that they can reannex Gaza.

Lol.

It’s amazing how easily the Zionist media can control the feeble minds.

 

[Hector12]

Lol.

It’s amazing how easily the Zionist media can control the feeble minds.

My love for Israel is unconditional.

 

[gipper]

My love for Israel is unconditional.

Even if Israel murders all the Palestinians?

 

[JoeB131]

The people of Taiwan do not want to be governed by the Chinese dictatorship any more than the people of the Ukraine want to be governed by the dictatorship of Russia.

Good for them.

Ukraine is going to have to make concessions.

So will Taiwan, eventually.