Case Against Former FBI Director James Comey Dismissed

[jknowgood]

That's because they weren't privy to Trump playing with the valuations of his properties, or the true situation of his finances.

It was like a car insurance company giving someone a cheap rate, because they didn't know he was a three time convicted DUI.

The lenders also have estimators go out and double checks. Or did you forget that?

 

[struth]

I don't think you want to go there. I read what was said at the actual court proceedings about doing business with Trump not what Fox told you.

I read the transcripts from his actual testimony

Let’s go there

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The lenders also have estimators go out and double checks.

False. These large commercial loans relied on financial statements prepared by third parties and affirmed and signed by Trump, under penalty of law .

Something tells me you're not learning a damn thing, here.

 

[jknowgood]

Yeah, when Trump is trying to get loans, instead of pay taxes.

"The judge noted Trump valued Mar-a-Lago at between $426.5 million and $612 million, “an overvaluation of at least 2,300%, compared to the assessor’s appraisal.”

You see the problem, there.

Couple that with the pattern of his falsely inflating values of his properties across the board in false financial statements punishable by law, and the picture becomes pretty clear.

You do know lenders send their people out to get their own estimate?

 

[forkup]

How do you know it’s relevant if it’s blacked out? Start telling the truth

I know because a magistrate judge said it was. Again if you want to claim someone like that lacks basic reading comprehension skills or lies about something like that in an opinion that will be reviewed on appeal almost certainly go right ahead.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.191.0.pdf

page 15 and 16

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You do know lenders send their people out to get their own estimate?

Not in these cases and in cases of large loans based on portfolios, no they do not.

Did you make that up yourself, or did someone else spoonfeed it to you?

 

[struth]

I know because a magistrate judge said it was. Again if you want to claim someone like that lacks basic reading comprehension skills or lies about something like that in an opinion that will be reviewed on appeal almost certainly go right ahead.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.191.0.pdf

page 15 and 16

So no transcript? Why do you keep claiming something was said and claim there is a transcript and continue to not provide it?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And in no case does a bank ever send their own appraiser for any real estate loan, to avoid conflict of interest.

An independent third party is paid, at the borrowers expense.

In the case of the large loans based on portfolios, that third party is an accounting firm that prepares financial statements based on information provided by the borrower, on information on file with the tax assessor, and on market data.

The borrower signs and affirms these financial statements, under penalty of law.

 

[jknowgood]

Lol,

Not in these cases and in cases of large loans based on portfolios, no they do not.

Did you make that up yourself, or did someone else spoonfeed it to you?

Lol, so you would loan millions out over someone said trust me. Nevermind I know you're that stupid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Lol, so you would loan millions out over someone said trust me.

False. Over financial statents compiled by a third party accounting firm, then affirmed and signed by the borrower.

It's the industry standard.

Yes, as it turns out, you have absolutely no no idea what you are talking about.

 

[jknowgood]

False. Over financial statents compiled by a third party accounting firm, then affirmed and signed by the borrower.

It's the industry standard.

Yes, as it turns out, you have absolutely no no idea what you are talking about.

Yes a third party, thanks for proving my point.

 

[Care4all]

I understand the frustration but I want to push back a bit.

It's never a good idea to look at laws from what happens in extreme circumstances.

The DOJ is not supposed to operate this way and it usually doesn't. It's not really a loophole it's a way to prevent defendants to run out the clock on indictments by abusing the appeal process or getting of on an honest but benign mistake from the prosecutor.

I also would take heart out of the following. The facts of this indictment were so flimsy Halligan despite lying about the law to the GJ only succeeded to convince 14 out of 23 people to approve 2 of the 3 charges, this while she was the only one presenting the case, no judge, no defense lawyer.

I find it highly unlikely that a different prosecutor will fare any better and the chance that they'll be able to convict near nil.

My biggest regret is that this means it's likely all the misconduct of Halligan now becomes harder to prove because the case as it is now is likely dead. And I would have enjoyed her trying to defend all this in front of the bar.

All relevant. Thank you!

But I did hear some lawyers say that the trial judge would make that decision....

AND say it is possible....

that because Lindsey Halligan never held the prosecutor position legally, and did not have another prosecutor with her that was legitimate, the case and the indictment, actually never legally existed....there never was legally a case brought....

It wasn't like the prosecutor brought an indictment, and they made a mistake or two with the grand jury so the case was dismissed.... They said this was not a technical, or paperwork, or procedural error....which would give the extension of 6 months to indict after the dismissal....

But that this was a case where those kind of mistakes were not even looked at, this dismissal was because it could not be considered as a legal indictment in the first place, because she was NOT legally in a prosecutor position.

Now, because of this, the legal beagles said ....the law we were going over, may not be able to be utilized to give them a 6 month extension on limitation....because of Halligan's illegal appointment, the case was never legally brought....

Hmmmm??? Worth considering imho! Anyway, that is likely Comey's legal team's argument.

Then, there is Trump appealing her illegal appointment ruling to the SC, and with them...ya never know....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes a third party,

Thats right. A third party accounting firm, then the statements are affirmed and signed by Trump.

Unfortunately, the career criminal trump lied to the accounting firm and thus affirmed and signed false financial statements.

The accounting firm in this case disavowed Trump and the financial statements they prepared, publicly stating that they cannot be considered reliable or accurate.

Which means Trump.committed serious felonies.

You're learning so much today!

100 to 1 you repeat every lie you spouted here, though.

 

[struth]

And in no case does a bank ever send their own appraiser for any real estate loan, to avoid conflict of interest.

An independent third party is paid, at the borrowers expense.

In the case of the large loans based on portfolios, that third party is an accounting firm that prepares financial statements based on information provided by the borrower, on information on file with the tax assessor, and on market data.

The borrower signs and affirms these financial statements, under penalty of law.

Hahab you are dumb as ****…which clearly explains why you don’t know anything


A bank never sends their own appraiser? Hahab

Ask mom to get your more cheese puffs, you are our dembot and way out of your league

 

[struth]

Thats right. A third party accounting firm, then the statements are affirmed and signed by Trump.

Unfortunately, the career criminal trump lied to the accounting firm and thus affirmed and signed false financial statements.

The accounting firm in this case disavowed Trump and the financial statements they prepared, publicly stating that they cannot be considered reliable or accurate.

Which means Trump.committed serious felonies.

You're learning so much today!

100 to 1 you repeat every lie you spouted here, though.

Link…

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A bank never sends their own appraiser?

For real estate? Nope. For individual appraisals, for example, they post the job with a vendor. The appraiser picks up the job and is in no way affiliated with the lender.

By design.

You should probably just shut up and read, you will learn something.

 

[postman]

Moving doesn’t extend the SOLs…only a fascist would think that

It does. It's called "tolling", and it occurs when the accuses flees the jurisdiction of the crime.

657. Tolling of Statute of Limitations

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The running of statutes of limitations is tolled during periods of fugitivity. 18 U.S.C. § 3290.

 

[jknowgood]

Thats right. A third party accounting firm, then the statements are affirmed and signed by Trump.

Unfortunately, the career criminal trump lied to the accounting firm and thus affirmed and signed false financial statements.

The accounting firm in this case disavowed Trump and the financial statements they prepared, publicly stating that they cannot be considered reliable or accurate.

Which means Trump.committed serious felonies.

You're learning so much today!

100 to 1 you repeat every lie you spouted here, though.

So why didn't get hit with felonies also?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So why didn't get hit with felonies also?

Because Letitia James went the civil suit route for maximum pain and punishment.

 

[WEATHER53]

The lenders also have estimators go out and double checks. Or did you forget that?

No they know about it but just lie
Lenders determine what they will lend as to loan to value. They do not accept nor consider a borrower estimation. Inconvenient fact reality for lying lib loons