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As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
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Like the government, corporations are run by flawed human beings who will often act primarily in their own self interest.A corporation would never do anything to harm us.
DuPont to pay $670 million to settle C8 lawsuits
Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.Really? If you can’t see the obvious harm in this, I can’t help you.When a few billionaires control most things, that’s not surprising.
So what? What does that matter to anything?
Venezuela has very few billionaires, and people are starving and dying.
China had very few wealthy people prior to the 1980s, and literally hundreds of thousands were living on less than a dollar a day.
Today China has tons of wealthy people, and the standard of living across the entire country is rising.
Your position is that it's better off for everyone to be poorer as long as the rich are not richer... is obviously a ideology that harms people. If you can't see that, then no one anywhere can help you.
As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
.
A corporation would never do anything to harm us.
DuPont to pay $670 million to settle C8 lawsuits
LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.Really? If you can’t see the obvious harm in this, I can’t help you.When a few billionaires control most things, that’s not surprising.
So what? What does that matter to anything?
Venezuela has very few billionaires, and people are starving and dying.
China had very few wealthy people prior to the 1980s, and literally hundreds of thousands were living on less than a dollar a day.
Today China has tons of wealthy people, and the standard of living across the entire country is rising.
Your position is that it's better off for everyone to be poorer as long as the rich are not richer... is obviously a ideology that harms people. If you can't see that, then no one anywhere can help you.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.Really? If you can’t see the obvious harm in this, I can’t help you.So what? What does that matter to anything?
Venezuela has very few billionaires, and people are starving and dying.
China had very few wealthy people prior to the 1980s, and literally hundreds of thousands were living on less than a dollar a day.
Today China has tons of wealthy people, and the standard of living across the entire country is rising.
Your position is that it's better off for everyone to be poorer as long as the rich are not richer... is obviously a ideology that harms people. If you can't see that, then no one anywhere can help you.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
’Billionaires control nothing”
You can’t be serious?
You can’t see facts. I can’t debate someone so entirely clueless. Sorry.LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.Really? If you can’t see the obvious harm in this, I can’t help you.
Venezuela has very few billionaires, and people are starving and dying.
China had very few wealthy people prior to the 1980s, and literally hundreds of thousands were living on less than a dollar a day.
Today China has tons of wealthy people, and the standard of living across the entire country is rising.
Your position is that it's better off for everyone to be poorer as long as the rich are not richer... is obviously a ideology that harms people. If you can't see that, then no one anywhere can help you.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
’Billionaires control nothing”
You can’t be serious?
Again, look at the facts. With all the media control, completely against Trump.... He still won. So do they really have "control"? Look at all the policies that the wealthy have opposed, that have all been passed by government. So do they really have "control"?
Whether I'm serious or not, doesn't matter. Look at the empirical data... does it fit your claim, or contradict? It contradicts. So the facts are, it's not true.
"Capitalism" is not the problem. "Socialism" is not a problem. Greed, avarice, egoism and extreme materialism are the problem(s).
Any economic system would work where those participating did so in a sense of familial caring.
When it is recognized that we are all related and that what is good for 'you' is good for 'me', vast problems will evaporate.
If that is never recognized, all the problems will be resolved by our species' disappearance.
Crony capitalism is more applicable.What are you smoking.
I was reading about a guy in China, that under communism, was starving in one of their farming camps. After liberalization, he started getting corrugated iron sheets from landfills, and selling them to the poor people as roofing material. He now runs a billion dollar roofing company, and is a billionaire in China.
Do you call that socialist or capitalist? If that isn't capitalist, then I don't know what you would call it.
You read.......lol. I read that Trump bailed out farmers. Where do we find this in Capitalism?
We don't.... and I never suggested that Trump was an ideologue, nor a champion of capitalist ideals. One of the primary reason I did not vote for Trump in 2016, is because I thought for sure he'd be pushing government run health care, and more control over the market.
So.... you fail. I don't support any bailouts anywhere. The conservatives didn't support bank bailouts in 2009 either.
Conservative Republicans offer bailout alternative
In fact, the Tea Party which was generally a conservative movement, was a backlash against the bailouts.
Capitalism does not involve government either paying for, or bailout out, business. If that happens, it isn't capitalism.
As I've noted many times, we are not a nation that runs on Capitalism.
Even then its only held up with Socialist programs.
You can’t see facts. I can’t debate someone so entirely clueless. Sorry.LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.Venezuela has very few billionaires, and people are starving and dying.
China had very few wealthy people prior to the 1980s, and literally hundreds of thousands were living on less than a dollar a day.
Today China has tons of wealthy people, and the standard of living across the entire country is rising.
Your position is that it's better off for everyone to be poorer as long as the rich are not richer... is obviously a ideology that harms people. If you can't see that, then no one anywhere can help you.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
’Billionaires control nothing”
You can’t be serious?
Again, look at the facts. With all the media control, completely against Trump.... He still won. So do they really have "control"? Look at all the policies that the wealthy have opposed, that have all been passed by government. So do they really have "control"?
Whether I'm serious or not, doesn't matter. Look at the empirical data... does it fit your claim, or contradict? It contradicts. So the facts are, it's not true.
You can’t see facts. I can’t debate someone so entirely clueless. Sorry.LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
’Billionaires control nothing”
You can’t be serious?
Again, look at the facts. With all the media control, completely against Trump.... He still won. So do they really have "control"? Look at all the policies that the wealthy have opposed, that have all been passed by government. So do they really have "control"?
Whether I'm serious or not, doesn't matter. Look at the empirical data... does it fit your claim, or contradict? It contradicts. So the facts are, it's not true.
Right-winger (states undeniable facts)
Left-winger "I can't debate someone clueless"
'Facts = clueless' in left-wing world.
It's hard to argue this one way or another as Capitalism isn't really practiced anywhere.
What are you smoking.
I was reading about a guy in China, that under communism, was starving in one of their farming camps. After liberalization, he started getting corrugated iron sheets from landfills, and selling them to the poor people as roofing material. He now runs a billion dollar roofing company, and is a billionaire in China.
Do you call that socialist or capitalist? If that isn't capitalist, then I don't know what you would call it.
You read.......lol. I read that Trump bailed out farmers. Where do we find this in Capitalism?
We don't.... and I never suggested that Trump was an ideologue, nor a champion of capitalist ideals. One of the primary reason I did not vote for Trump in 2016, is because I thought for sure he'd be pushing government run health care, and more control over the market.
So.... you fail. I don't support any bailouts anywhere. The conservatives didn't support bank bailouts in 2009 either.
Conservative Republicans offer bailout alternative
In fact, the Tea Party which was generally a conservative movement, was a backlash against the bailouts.
Capitalism does not involve government either paying for, or bailout out, business. If that happens, it isn't capitalism.
As I've noted many times, we are not a nation that runs on Capitalism.
As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
.
I believe that you believe that.As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
.
There is almost nothing that supports your claim. You can say it is a critical component, but history suggests otherwise.
Regulations are consistently, and almost entirely, used by the wealthy to oppress the poor.
Now the ignorant and foolish left-wing would say that the way the rich use regulations to oppress the poor, is they get their super secret lobbyists to buy off politicians to get some magic rule written into the law that says "rich richer, poor poorer".
But that isn't the case.
Instead regulations natural.... just by their very nature, benefit the rich, at the expense of the poor.
Say you pass a regulation that is going to cost $1 Million dollars in compliance costs, on all retail stores.
Who is going to be harmed by this rule? Walmart? Or a small local store?
Of course Walmart has hundreds of billions to spend to meet the regulations. The small local store.... they close. They can't afford that cost, so they sell out. Walmart gains more customers, and becomes more wealthy, and the local store owners close, and their employees are laid off. They are poorer.
Regulations naturally.... just part of their nature... benefit the rich, and harm the poor.
Even McDonald and the minimum wage for example, is the same way. If you jack the minimum wage up to $15/hour, is that going to harm McDonald? Not really. They have the money to replace many, if not more than half their crew, over to Kiosks.
You know who doesn't? All the small independent shops. So Louis Grill will close, because he doesn't have billions to invest in kiosks to replace his cashiers. Louis Grill closes, and more people go to McDonalds. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.
There is very little evidence anywhere, that any regulation has ever resulted in good for the public. Little to none.
About the only positive example, has been environmental regulations, but even then the EPA has done a terrible job. It's been local governments, and local cities, that have done the best at actually cleaning up their local areas. The EPA is filled with a bunch of idiots, who actually demanding that Mining water, have a lower arsenic level, than what is natural in the environment. A ridiculous job destroying, economy damaging regulation, that doesn't protect the environment.
As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
.
A corporation would never do anything to harm us.
DuPont to pay $670 million to settle C8 lawsuits
Corporations are run by people. People make mistakes, and sometimes engage in crimes.
The difference is, when government does it... there is no one to sue.
Dzerzhinsk, Russia Most chemically polluted place on the face of the Earth. Do tell... .how much did the Soviet government pay in settlement? Oh right.... zero. Nothing. Zip.
Chernobyl, Ukraine Largest nuclear disaster in the world, which was entirely due to intentional violation of safety procedures, when operating a nuclear reactor with a known.... well known even... fatal flaw. Do tell, how much did the Soviet Government pay in settlement for the lawsuit on that? Oh right... zero. Nothing. Zip.
A capitalist system is infinity better than the alternative of government control or ownership.
Crony capitalism is more applicable.You read.......lol. I read that Trump bailed out farmers. Where do we find this in Capitalism?
We don't.... and I never suggested that Trump was an ideologue, nor a champion of capitalist ideals. One of the primary reason I did not vote for Trump in 2016, is because I thought for sure he'd be pushing government run health care, and more control over the market.
So.... you fail. I don't support any bailouts anywhere. The conservatives didn't support bank bailouts in 2009 either.
Conservative Republicans offer bailout alternative
In fact, the Tea Party which was generally a conservative movement, was a backlash against the bailouts.
Capitalism does not involve government either paying for, or bailout out, business. If that happens, it isn't capitalism.
As I've noted many times, we are not a nation that runs on Capitalism.
Even then its only held up with Socialist programs.
Real capitalism is not held up by socialist programs. You are nuts. The years this country advanced the most in standard of living, was when there were no social programs at all.
As long as American right wingers refuse to understand that regulations and controls are not a bane to capitalism, but a CRITICAL COMPONENT of capitalism, socialism will continue to gain adherents.
They somehow don't see this. They prefer to just shoot themselves in the foot. No doubt the socialists appreciate their dogged assistance.
.
There is almost nothing that supports your claim. You can say it is a critical component, but history suggests otherwise.
Regulations are consistently, and almost entirely, used by the wealthy to oppress the poor.
Now the ignorant and foolish left-wing would say that the way the rich use regulations to oppress the poor, is they get their super secret lobbyists to buy off politicians to get some magic rule written into the law that says "rich richer, poor poorer".
But that isn't the case.
Instead regulations natural.... just by their very nature, benefit the rich, at the expense of the poor.
Say you pass a regulation that is going to cost $1 Million dollars in compliance costs, on all retail stores.
Who is going to be harmed by this rule? Walmart? Or a small local store?
Of course Walmart has hundreds of billions to spend to meet the regulations. The small local store.... they close. They can't afford that cost, so they sell out. Walmart gains more customers, and becomes more wealthy, and the local store owners close, and their employees are laid off. They are poorer.
Regulations naturally.... just part of their nature... benefit the rich, and harm the poor.
Even McDonald and the minimum wage for example, is the same way. If you jack the minimum wage up to $15/hour, is that going to harm McDonald? Not really. They have the money to replace many, if not more than half their crew, over to Kiosks.
You know who doesn't? All the small independent shops. So Louis Grill will close, because he doesn't have billions to invest in kiosks to replace his cashiers. Louis Grill closes, and more people go to McDonalds. Rich get richer, poor get poorer.
There is very little evidence anywhere, that any regulation has ever resulted in good for the public. Little to none.
About the only positive example, has been environmental regulations, but even then the EPA has done a terrible job. It's been local governments, and local cities, that have done the best at actually cleaning up their local areas. The EPA is filled with a bunch of idiots, who actually demanding that Mining water, have a lower arsenic level, than what is natural in the environment. A ridiculous job destroying, economy damaging regulation, that doesn't protect the environment.
It's hard to argue this one way or another as Capitalism isn't really practiced anywhere.
What are you smoking.
I was reading about a guy in China, that under communism, was starving in one of their farming camps. After liberalization, he started getting corrugated iron sheets from landfills, and selling them to the poor people as roofing material. He now runs a billion dollar roofing company, and is a billionaire in China.
Do you call that socialist or capitalist? If that isn't capitalist, then I don't know what you would call it.
You read.......lol. I read that Trump bailed out farmers. Where do we find this in Capitalism?
We don't.... and I never suggested that Trump was an ideologue, nor a champion of capitalist ideals. One of the primary reason I did not vote for Trump in 2016, is because I thought for sure he'd be pushing government run health care, and more control over the market.
So.... you fail. I don't support any bailouts anywhere. The conservatives didn't support bank bailouts in 2009 either.
Conservative Republicans offer bailout alternative
In fact, the Tea Party which was generally a conservative movement, was a backlash against the bailouts.
Capitalism does not involve government either paying for, or bailout out, business. If that happens, it isn't capitalism.
As I've noted many times, we are not a nation that runs on Capitalism.
Based on what.
I know a guy right now, that make a ton of money running his restaurant. He worked as a short order cook, saved money. He saved 'capital' for decades. Then he used that capital to lease a building, and now runs his own restaurant called Louie's Grill in Hilliard Ohio.
That is capitalism by the very definition of the word.
I’m a left winger??? LMFAO.You can’t see facts. I can’t debate someone so entirely clueless. Sorry.LOL.Why do you want transnational billionaires controlling your government and mainstream media? Think about it.
If you believe that Billionaires are in control of government, and the media, then I think you are a tad crazy.
Billionaires control nothing. Nothing. Billionaires opposed the minimum wage, and it was raised. Billionaires opposed Frank-Dodd, and it was passed. They opposed the CARD act, and it passed. They opposed the ACA, and it passed. They opposed dozens on dozens of things, and government did what it wanted anyway. They oppose the trade war now, and although it is muted, it is still going on.
There are literally dozens on dozens of super wealthy people, from millionaires to billionaires all in prison. If they are in control of everything, why are they using their control, to send themselves to prison?
They have control of nothing. Event the claims about the control over the media mean little. Trump himself proves that. The entire media was against Donald Trump, even Fox. And Trump still won. So what real control do they have?
’Billionaires control nothing”
You can’t be serious?
Again, look at the facts. With all the media control, completely against Trump.... He still won. So do they really have "control"? Look at all the policies that the wealthy have opposed, that have all been passed by government. So do they really have "control"?
Whether I'm serious or not, doesn't matter. Look at the empirical data... does it fit your claim, or contradict? It contradicts. So the facts are, it's not true.
Right-winger (states undeniable facts)
Left-winger "I can't debate someone clueless"
'Facts = clueless' in left-wing world.
