Zone1 Candace Owens Becomes Catholic

What questions would you like answered?
And who is "they" and "their wealth"? The RCC consists of 1.3 billion people who pool their money together, as well as people who have devoted their lives to God for little money. There are priceless works of art donated by their creators as gifts to God. No individual in the hierarchy is personally wealthy. There may have been a few fallible people in the past who have stolen, but they are in the tiny minority. There are Judases in every organization. The huge majority, however, are great people.
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And thus has it ever been.

All I care about is that I have found my home here in my parish.

I see the greatness in my priest and in our bishop, and I see the filth in the so-called "Catholic" church in another town just ten miles down the road.

All I care about is MY priest, MY parish and MY bishop. I'm not responsible for the contemplation of anything that happens outside MY boundaries.

The poster you're talking to was probably abused by a priest. That happened. I have opinions about why that happened, but responsibility for it is not mine or my priest's or my bishop's.

Just like responsibility for anything slavers did to people here while my ancestors were still in Europe is not my responsibility.

Exscuse me while I go and get ready for Mass.

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I was raised Catholic as well, and I can tell you there is no greater organization in the history of the world that has done more good for more people.

It's really what you make of it.

Inquisitions
Crusades
Witch burnings
Selling of indulgences
Molesting children

Lot's of good stuff, there!

There's a reason why the poorest, most miserable countries in the world tend to be Catholic.

What questions would you like answered?
And who is "they" and "their wealth"? The RCC consists of 1.3 billion people who pool their money together, as well as people who have devoted their lives to God for little money. There are priceless works of art donated by their creators as gifts to God. No individual in the hierarchy is personally wealthy. There may have been a few fallible people in the past who have stolen, but they are in the tiny minority. There are Judases in every organization. The huge majority, however, are great people.

And you don't see a problem with this? The Vatican has one of the most impressive art collections in the world. Except for the Crazy Pope who cut the dicks off all the statues and replaced them with fig leafs. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the world's Catholics live in grinding poverty in places like the Philippines, Brazil, Mexico, etc. And the church keeps telling them to pump out more Babies because Jesus hates Rubbers.
 
merri we have already had this discussion....why are you asking again?....
That was then, this is now. Have you reflected on it further? For me, it is a matter of time. Try teaching a class of fifty--or even thirty in less than an hour, following the curriculum used. Even as a kid I recognized there wasn't enough time to teach everything, to answer every question, etc.

As an adult I recognized I had to carve out enough time in my own life--and we adults don't have enough time, either. Further, delving deep into faith and belief is very much like tunneling through a mountain with a toothpick. The deeper one goes, the more the questions about what is revealed and seen. And, then there is living the discoveries faith and belief.

I am interested in what you have done since, what you are doing now and the reason for that is that people leave the faith for one of two reasons it seems: Some because they are simply bored by it; others because they still resent what was promised but never delivered. I discovered I did not have to wait for delivery--I could go get it myself. But then, I wasn't bored, and I wanted what was promised. That brings us back to time, and who has the luxury of time enough for such an epic journey?
 
I'm not sure why this is "news," but it is certainly a good thing when a well-known public influencer finds the Church.

I was born and raised in the Church, drifted away in young-adulthood, then got my head out of my ass when I saw parenthood coming, and remain a practicing Catholic at 74 y.o.

I actually find it a little bit comforting that American Leftists are so vigorously opposed to the Church. They are wrong on so many vital matters (abortion, marriage, sexuality, the Environment, etc.) that their rabid opposition to the Church is a good thing overall.

I have found over the years that there are three or four main reasons why people hate on the Church, and that's fine. It's a free country. Many people went to Catholic grade school, then off to a public HS with no further education of Church matters, including mainly theology and morality. The problem arises that what you are taught as children (memorization and general principles) is not satisfactory for adults, so they continue to think that all of Catholicism resides in this childish, unsophisticated realm of the Baltimore Catechism. Catholic high schools go a little deeper. It's their loss.

Many Christians are outraged by the Church's claim to be the One True Church, and think that any version of Christianity is equal to any other, and the Church is "wrong" about many particulars - a belief that Prod ministers like to promote. For those who care to look closely, the Church has Scriptural and historical bases for all of the more controversial beliefs and practices, which is probably why people like C. Owens and Dr. J. Peterson have signed on.

Leftists, of course abhor the Church's teachings in themselves (see parenthetical in my third paragraph, above). And that's great.

Sadly, the Church's Pedo crisis gave many Catholics an excuse to re-take their Sunday mornings and claim the moral High Ground at the same time. That "argument" is as sound as a Mexican Peso, but if it works for you...
 
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Praise God!

And Russell Brand's new YouTube is his praying the Rosary.

Could be God Is saving these good people to use them to spread the truth before all hell is let loose.

Sounds like they are insecure.
 
I'm not sure why this is "news," but it is certainly a good thing when a well-known public influencer finds the Church.

I was born and raised in the Church, drifted away in young-adulthood, then got my head out of my ass when I saw parenthood coming, and remain a practicing Catholic at 74 y.o.

I actually find it a little bit comforting that American Leftists are so vigorously opposed to the Church. They are wrong on so many vital matters (abortion, marriage, sexuality, the Environment, etc.) that their rabid opposition to the Church is a good thing overall.

I have found over the years that there are three or four main reasons why people hate on the Church, and that's fine. It's a free country. Many people went to Catholic grade school, then off to a public HS with no further education of Church matters, including mainly theology and morality. The problem arises that what you are taught as children (memorization and general principles) is not satisfactory for adults, so they continue to think that all of Catholicism resides in this childish, unsophisticated realm of the Baltimore Catechism. Catholic high schools go a little deeper. It's their loss.

Many Christians are outraged by the Church's claim to be the One True Church, and think that any version of Christianity is equal to any other, and the Church is "wrong" about many particulars - a belief that Prod ministers like to promote. For those who care to look closely, the Church has Scriptural and historical bases for all of the more controversial beliefs and practices, which is probably why people like C. Owens and Dr. J. Peterson have signed on.

Leftists, of course abhor the Church's teachings in themselves (see parenthetical in my third paragraph, above). And that's great.

Sadly, the Church's Pedo crisis gave many Catholics an excuse to re-take their Sunday mornings and claim the moral High Ground at the same time. That "argument" is as sound as a Mexican Peso, but if it works for you...
You weren't born in a hospital like most folks?
 
That was then, this is now. Have you reflected on it further? For me, it is a matter of time. Try teaching a class of fifty--or even thirty in less than an hour, following the curriculum used. Even as a kid I recognized there wasn't enough time to teach everything, to answer every question, etc.

As an adult I recognized I had to carve out enough time in my own life--and we adults don't have enough time, either. Further, delving deep into faith and belief is very much like tunneling through a mountain with a toothpick. The deeper one goes, the more the questions about what is revealed and seen. And, then there is living the discoveries faith and belief.

I am interested in what you have done since, what you are doing now and the reason for that is that people leave the faith for one of two reasons it seems: Some because they are simply bored by it; others because they still resent what was promised but never delivered. I discovered I did not have to wait for delivery--I could go get it myself. But then, I wasn't bored, and I wanted what was promised. That brings us back to time, and who has the luxury of time enough for such an epic journey?
my views aint going to change....you guys gave me the same shit the priest told me....that one so called "christian" bs something just made fun of me...what a jerk he was....
 
I have found over the years that there are three or four main reasons why people hate on the Church, and that's fine. It's a free country. Many people went to Catholic grade school, then off to a public HS with no further education of Church matters, including mainly theology and morality. The problem arises that what you are taught as children (memorization and general principles) is not satisfactory for adults, so they continue to think that all of Catholicism resides in this childish, unsophisticated realm of the Baltimore Catechism. Catholic high schools go a little deeper. It's their loss.

Actually, I went to a Catholic High School. A fairly prestigous one, as four Chicago mayors are counted in our alumni. Still didn't take me long to figure out they were full of beans.

A Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests​

according to Charol Shakeshaft, the researcher of a little-remembered 2004 study prepared for the U.S. Department of Education, "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."​

The only way you get to "schools are 100 times worse" is if you count the sexual abuse students inflict on each other.

But even if you want to limit it to teachers. There are 2 million teachers and only 42,000 Catholic priests. Do the math.

I know that the parish I grew up in, two priests were accused of inappropriate conduct. The only thing that surprised me is that one of them did it with a teen girl, because I was positive that guy was gay.

Meanwhile, as the aforementioned HS, we had several of the Brothers who were "Reassigned", and one coach (laity) who was showing gay porn to his team members. (This was back in the day of projectors).

And here's the kicker. When you have eliminated anyone who has a health interest in adult women, you are going to be left with people who check off the "other" box. Some of them are gay. Some of them are pedophiles. Then you put them in this goofy system where they are all obligated to keep each other's secrets.
 
Actually, I went to a Catholic High School. A fairly prestigous one, as four Chicago mayors are counted in our alumni. Still didn't take me long to figure out they were full of beans.


The only way you get to "schools are 100 times worse" is if you count the sexual abuse students inflict on each other.

But even if you want to limit it to teachers. There are 2 million teachers and only 42,000 Catholic priests. Do the math.

I know that the parish I grew up in, two priests were accused of inappropriate conduct. The only thing that surprised me is that one of them did it with a teen girl, because I was positive that guy was gay.

Meanwhile, as the aforementioned HS, we had several of the Brothers who were "Reassigned", and one coach (laity) who was showing gay porn to his team members. (This was back in the day of projectors).

And here's the kicker. When you have eliminated anyone who has a health interest in adult women, you are going to be left with people who check off the "other" box. Some of them are gay. Some of them are pedophiles. Then you put them in this goofy system where they are all obligated to keep each other's secrets.
Straight out of your mind....THis is just the opposite of the problem !!!YOU Say :'
Then you put them in this goofy system where they are all obligated to keep each other's secrets.'

But in a Catholic school it is not whether you are gay but whether you engage in homosexual perversity. THe difference is THE DIFFERENCE>
We all have our weaknesses and frailties but it is those perverted things that you approve of, that is what degrades the schools

Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
 
Straight out of your mind....THis is just the opposite of the problem !!!YOU Say :'
Well, no, actually quite the opposite.
But in a Catholic school it is not whether you are gay but whether you engage in homosexual perversity. THe difference is THE DIFFERENCE>
We all have our weaknesses and frailties but it is those perverted things that you approve of, that is what degrades the schools

Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Except there's nothing wrong with being gay. The Catholic Church's teachings is what causes the problem.

Little Timmy starts singing show tunes; the old-time Catholic way was to send him off to a Seminary to pray away the gay. This means when Timmy gets out into the parish, he's still a gay kid with a gay kid's view on relationships and sexuality, and oops, he found another gay kid!

No coincidence that after it became acceptable to be gay, the enlistment in the Holy Orders dropped like a rock. So few kids are going to have to deal with psycho nuns like I did. Instead, these Catholic Lesbians are getting themselves some practical shoes and scented candles, and everyone is happier!!!
 
That was then, this is now. Have you reflected on it further? For me, it is a matter of time. Try teaching a class of fifty--or even thirty in less than an hour, following the curriculum used. Even as a kid I recognized there wasn't enough time to teach everything, to answer every question, etc.

As an adult I recognized I had to carve out enough time in my own life--and we adults don't have enough time, either. Further, delving deep into faith and belief is very much like tunneling through a mountain with a toothpick. The deeper one goes, the more the questions about what is revealed and seen. And, then there is living the discoveries faith and belief.

I am interested in what you have done since, what you are doing now and the reason for that is that people leave the faith for one of two reasons it seems: Some because they are simply bored by it; others because they still resent what was promised but never delivered. I discovered I did not have to wait for delivery--I could go get it myself. But then, I wasn't bored, and I wanted what was promised. That brings us back to time, and who has the luxury of time enough for such an epic journey?
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I still have many, many questions about the RCC and have found that my priest, who is 75 years old, is not always good at answering. He does his best. He's starting a weekly Q&A class after Thursday morning Mass to help the new converts like me understand more. I'm sure there will be people there who are far more experienced to help me understand.

I find that the liberal Catholics are lousy teachers, also, and just don't really care about actual catechesis.

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Inquisitions
Crusades
Witch burnings
Selling of indulgences
Molesting children

Lot's of good stuff, there!

There's a reason why the poorest, most miserable countries in the world tend to be Catholic.



And you don't see a problem with this? The Vatican has one of the most impressive art collections in the world. Except for the Crazy Pope who cut the dicks off all the statues and replaced them with fig leafs. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the world's Catholics live in grinding poverty in places like the Philippines, Brazil, Mexico, etc. And the church keeps telling them to pump out more Babies because Jesus hates Rubbers.
Nothing compared to the horrors of communism. The Crusades were good.
 
I'm not sure why this is "news," but it is certainly a good thing when a well-known public influencer finds the Church.

I was born and raised in the Church, drifted away in young-adulthood, then got my head out of my ass when I saw parenthood coming, and remain a practicing Catholic at 74 y.o.

I actually find it a little bit comforting that American Leftists are so vigorously opposed to the Church. They are wrong on so many vital matters (abortion, marriage, sexuality, the Environment, etc.) that their rabid opposition to the Church is a good thing overall.

I have found over the years that there are three or four main reasons why people hate on the Church, and that's fine. It's a free country. Many people went to Catholic grade school, then off to a public HS with no further education of Church matters, including mainly theology and morality. The problem arises that what you are taught as children (memorization and general principles) is not satisfactory for adults, so they continue to think that all of Catholicism resides in this childish, unsophisticated realm of the Baltimore Catechism. Catholic high schools go a little deeper. It's their loss.

Many Christians are outraged by the Church's claim to be the One True Church, and think that any version of Christianity is equal to any other, and the Church is "wrong" about many particulars - a belief that Prod ministers like to promote. For those who care to look closely, the Church has Scriptural and historical bases for all of the more controversial beliefs and practices, which is probably why people like C. Owens and Dr. J. Peterson have signed on.

Leftists, of course abhor the Church's teachings in themselves (see parenthetical in my third paragraph, above). And that's great.

Sadly, the Church's Pedo crisis gave many Catholics an excuse to re-take their Sunday mornings and claim the moral High Ground at the same time. That "argument" is as sound as a Mexican Peso, but if it works for you...
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I just received this book in yesterday's mail and it promises to have a lot to say about who started the pedo crisis.

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But bring this up to a leftist and it's 'CONVERSATION OVER' time.

Here's a great video about the mechanics of how this happened.



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