Canada apporves new oil pipeline

[1776]

I notice you can't explain how Canada shipping their oil over their pipeline and then via a ship helps "save the planet."

Also, whatever oil they do send to the US via train being eco-friendly and safe too.

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

I'm pro deep water drilling BTW




Explain how high oil prices are good for america?


they aren't ... explain how a pissant pipeline will or CAN lower prices on the GLOBAL MARKET

 

[Rotagilla]

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

I'm pro deep water drilling BTW




Explain how high oil prices are good for america?


they aren't ... explain how a pissant pipeline will or CAN lower prices on the GLOBAL MARKET

I already have several times in the last few posts.

The more we produce ourselves and the more we import from canada, the less influence world events can have on prices here.

 

[Siete]

Global markets for dummies, errrrrrrrr Republican Pipeliners

HowStuffWorks "How the Crude Oil Market Works"

From your link.


The prices of commodities are always in flux because they depend on worldwide supply and demand.....

Four major factors help determine the price of oil: supply, consumption, financial markets and government policies [source: Murphy].

.....Other countries have strong supplies, including Russia, Venezuela and even the United States. The oil found in Texas in the early 20th century resulted in a significant economic boom for that region. In fact, North America is currently the world's second-largest oil producer [source: Energy Information Administration].

Groups like OPEC -- the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries -- monitor their oil supply and can ration it out as they see fit, which sways the supply and price of oil. This is what led to the "gas crisis" of the 1970s: the Middle Eastern members of OPEC decided to "punish" Western nations for their support of Israel in the war in which the latter was attacked by Syria and Egypt. They imposed an oil embargo, and the result was a drastic upswing in oil prices. A severe recession ensued where gas prices in the U.S. rose from 30 cents per gallon (about 7 cents per liter) to about $1.20 per gallon (about 32 cents per liter) at the height of the crisis [source: Trumbore]. Geopolitical crisis', especially in volatile places like the Middle East, can have a big effect on gas prices in the United States.

exactly ... a bird shits on some oil well in Saudi, the price of oil goes up ... a hurricane is spotted heading for the Gulf, oil goes up... yada yada yda

a pipeline will lower the price of oil ... yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Hold your breath.

 

[Rotagilla]

Global markets for dummies, errrrrrrrr Republican Pipeliners

HowStuffWorks "How the Crude Oil Market Works"

From your link.


The prices of commodities are always in flux because they depend on worldwide supply and demand.....

Four major factors help determine the price of oil: supply, consumption, financial markets and government policies [source: Murphy].

.....Other countries have strong supplies, including Russia, Venezuela and even the United States. The oil found in Texas in the early 20th century resulted in a significant economic boom for that region. In fact, North America is currently the world's second-largest oil producer [source: Energy Information Administration].

Groups like OPEC -- the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries -- monitor their oil supply and can ration it out as they see fit, which sways the supply and price of oil. This is what led to the "gas crisis" of the 1970s: the Middle Eastern members of OPEC decided to "punish" Western nations for their support of Israel in the war in which the latter was attacked by Syria and Egypt. They imposed an oil embargo, and the result was a drastic upswing in oil prices. A severe recession ensued where gas prices in the U.S. rose from 30 cents per gallon (about 7 cents per liter) to about $1.20 per gallon (about 32 cents per liter) at the height of the crisis [source: Trumbore]. Geopolitical crisis', especially in volatile places like the Middle East, can have a big effect on gas prices in the United States.

exactly ... a bird shits on some oil well in Saudi, the price of oil goes up ... a hurricane is spotted heading for the Gulf, oil goes up... yada yada yda

a pipeline will lower the price of oil ... yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Hold your breath.

Yes..and by your examples, a government announces expanded drilling and production. Supplies increase, price decreases.

More oil becomes available from canada...(which is closer than the ME)... we don't have to ship it thousands of miles across the ocean.
Supply becomes easier and more abundant. Oil prices drop.

If I had 10 apples and I sold them for ten dollars apiece because I had them shipped here from the ME...and you had ten identically equal apples that you grew in your backyard and sold them for 25 cents apiece, which one of us would sell more apples?

Can you explain why?

 

[1776]

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

 

[Siete]

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?


The News Journal Editorial Board has long opposed drilling within 100 miles of Gulf Coast beaches - even 150 miles, as proposed during congressional negotiations in 2006. State law now prohibits drilling in state waters that extend three miles into the Atlantic and 10 miles into the Gulf of Mexico

 

[Rotagilla]

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?

a significant effect.


EDIT:
your 100 mile claim is an exaggeration but...that's to be expected...

 

[1776]

Scum like 7 will complain about any rise in oil price when the GOP is in office even making up Haliburton-OPEC conspiracy theories.

But when Obama openly flaunts jacking up oil costs on Americans....the piece of shit goes on an endless psychobabble rant.

 

[Siete]

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?

a significant effect.


EDIT:
your 100 mile claim is an exaggeration but...that's to be expected...

and then there's this little FACT

The Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006 (GOMESA) included provisions that:[5]
required 8.3 million acres of the Gulf opened for lease, including 5.8 million acres previously protected by Congressional moratoria;
declared much of the Gulf of Mexico Eastern Planning Area off-limits to oil and gas leasing until 2022, and offering incentives for leaseholders to abandon existing leases within moratorium areas; and
banned oil and gas leasing within 125 miles of the Florida coastline within the Gulf's Eastern Planning Area, or east of the Military Mission Line



really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

 

[Rotagilla]

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?

a significant effect.


EDIT:
your 100 mile claim is an exaggeration but...that's to be expected...

really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

You provided nothing but unfounded speculation.

...your 100 mile claim is bogus, too.

It's resolved.
Higher supply equals lower prices.

 

[Dot Com]

Asswipe.....tell us how scum like you have "saved the planet" by forcing Canada to send their oil over a different pipeline and then onto ships.

Oh....your intentions of saving the planet are good, it's not the results that matter.

Liberal scum don't understand Canada is another country, not just a second Vermont. Canada makes their own choices for their own good.

Selling their oil to our enemy and shipping it further than to the US is the only option when liberal scum block them here.

So much for "saving the planet" bullshit from liberals when they help ship oil over the Pacific Ocean to the largest polluter on the planet.

the voice of reason and logic has spoken

it isn't "oil" shit stain [MENTION=45621]1776[/MENTION] , its "tar sands", Theres a diff.

 

[1776]

doltcom....what is the end product?

Oh, you believe they will run your car on sand....

Asswipe.....tell us how scum like you have "saved the planet" by forcing Canada to send their oil over a different pipeline and then onto ships.

Oh....your intentions of saving the planet are good, it's not the results that matter.

the voice of reason and logic has spoken

it isn't "oil" shit stain [MENTION=45621]1776[/MENTION] , its "tar sands", Theres a diff.

 

[Dot Com]

It is also about "saving the planet" and controlling people's lives.

They don't like white people in middle America driving SUVs and trucks, so they drive up the cost of oil/gas in order to push people into hybrids and mini-me cars.

Many liberal scum don't own a car because they are poor or live in the "big city" where they ride a bus and subway for years. They don't like to see people in Texas driving cars, so they support Obama driving up energy costs to get those "red state" people.

Also, higher energy costs to maintain temps in your house will also force you out of a big home into a smaller one or better yet a community apartment complex where you can't own a car......

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

link?

 

[1776]

Do you need a link for O2?

It is also about "saving the planet" and controlling people's lives.

They don't like white people in middle America driving SUVs and trucks, so they drive up the cost of oil/gas in order to push people into hybrids and mini-me cars.

Many liberal scum don't own a car because they are poor or live in the "big city" where they ride a bus and subway for years. They don't like to see people in Texas driving cars, so they support Obama driving up energy costs to get those "red state" people.

Also, higher energy costs to maintain temps in your house will also force you out of a big home into a smaller one or better yet a community apartment complex where you can't own a car......

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

link?

 

[Dot Com]

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?


The News Journal Editorial Board has long opposed drilling within 100 miles of Gulf Coast beaches - even 150 miles, as proposed during congressional negotiations in 2006. State law now prohibits drilling in state waters that extend three miles into the Atlantic and 10 miles into the Gulf of Mexico

yeah. what say you [MENTION=45621]1776[/MENTION] AKA- shit stain?

tar sands take a significantly larger amt of energy to extract the oil from the sand. Canada can keep that

 

[Siete]

a significant effect.


EDIT:
your 100 mile claim is an exaggeration but...that's to be expected...

really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

You provided nothing but unfounded speculation.

...your 100 mile claim is bogus, too.

It's resolved.
Higher supply equals lower prices.

you're right, my bad ITS 125 MILES and its a LAW.

what was I thinking? Oh yeah, you're an IDIOT apple boy.... apples Oil, same thing

 

[Rotagilla]

and then there's this little FACT

The Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006 (GOMESA) included provisions that:[5]
required 8.3 million acres of the Gulf opened for lease, including 5.8 million acres previously protected by Congressional moratoria;
declared much of the Gulf of Mexico Eastern Planning Area off-limits to oil and gas leasing until 2022, and offering incentives for leaseholders to abandon existing leases within moratorium areas; and
banned oil and gas leasing within 125 miles of the Florida coastline within the Gulf's Eastern Planning Area, or east of the Military Mission Line

really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s3711#overview

This bill was introduced in a previous session of Congress and was passed by the Senate on August 1, 2006 but was never passed by the House.


S. 3711 (109th): Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006

Introduced:
Jul 20, 2006 (109th Congress, 2005–2006)
Status:
Died (Passed Senate) in a previous session of Congress

I know you won't apologize...you'll slink off in silence...or just pretend it never happened..LMAO...fool.

 

[Rotagilla]

really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

You provided nothing but unfounded speculation.

...your 100 mile claim is bogus, too.

It's resolved.
Higher supply equals lower prices.

you're right, my bad ITS 125 MILES and its a LAW.

what was I thinking? Oh yeah, you're an IDIOT apple boy.... apples Oil, same thing

Post #97 exposes you as a fool.

It isn't a "law". It never passed, clown.

 

[1776]

You two stupid ***** have no clue liberals lead the charge at blocking off shore drilling, hell even off shore windmills that block their beach views, see the Kennedy scum.

Thanks to Obama, China is now drilling near Florida and Cuba instead of US companies which means a higher risk of a huge oil spill by our enemy that doesn't give a shit and won't clean up any mess they make.

7 is an idiot.....ignore the illegal.

if a pipeline has such a tremendous effect on the price of oil then explain exactly why Florida has a ban on ALL offshore drilling within the 100 mile barrier.How much effect would 10-20-100 oil rigs have on the price of gas/oil ?


The News Journal Editorial Board has long opposed drilling within 100 miles of Gulf Coast beaches - even 150 miles, as proposed during congressional negotiations in 2006. State law now prohibits drilling in state waters that extend three miles into the Atlantic and 10 miles into the Gulf of Mexico

yeah. what say you [MENTION=45621]1776[/MENTION] AKA- shit stain?

tar sands take a significantly larger amt of energy to extract the oil from the sand. Canada can keep that

 

[Siete]

and then there's this little FACT

The Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006 (GOMESA) included provisions that:[5]
required 8.3 million acres of the Gulf opened for lease, including 5.8 million acres previously protected by Congressional moratoria;
declared much of the Gulf of Mexico Eastern Planning Area off-limits to oil and gas leasing until 2022, and offering incentives for leaseholders to abandon existing leases within moratorium areas; and
banned oil and gas leasing within 125 miles of the Florida coastline within the Gulf's Eastern Planning Area, or east of the Military Mission Line

really, I just provided the proof, you just provided your ignorance. You and 76 go hump each others leg, maybe one of you will catch an IQ point or two

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s3711#overview

This bill was introduced in a previous session of Congress and was passed by the Senate on August 1, 2006 but was never passed by the House.


S. 3711 (109th): Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act of 2006

Introduced:
Jul 20, 2006 (109th Congress, 2005–2006)
Status:
Died (Passed Senate) in a previous session of Congress

I know you won't apologize...you'll slink off in silence...or just pretend it never happened..LMAO...fool.

Like the House bill, which also would have opened up the Lease Sale 181 area, S. 3711 allows for revenue sharing with affected coastal states in the Gulf. Indeed, the Bush Administration argued that the revenue sharing provisions were too generous and would deprive the Federal Treasury of needed dollars in the years ahead.

While critics of the House bill complained that it went too far, some critics said the Senate bill did not go far enough, including House members who were originally unwilling to compromise with the much more modest Senate bill.

Critics of the Senate bill noted that the volumes of energy in that bill were small relative to the challenges the nation faces, such as rising oil and natural gas prices, declining production from many existing domestic fields, strong growth in demand due to the growing economy. Others questioned how much of the additional energy that would be made available could have come online anyway under existing provisions. They also noted that the bill would strengthen restrictions on some other energy-rich portions of the Eastern Gulf in order to satisfy the Florida delegation. Some critics believed that this bill might hamper future passage of more comprehensive legislation because the generous Gulf state revenue-sharing provisions might satisfy legislators from the Gulf, who then would have less incentive to join in any subsequent bills to expand drilling elsewhere