Canada apporves new oil pipeline

[LoneLaugher]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

 

[LoneLaugher]

From the link;

The two primary factors that impact the price of oil are:

supply and demand
market sentiment

Keep reading. It will do you good.

I know more about it than you might think.

Here's the facts of life;

Greater supply = lower prices.

Nope. Not in the case of oil. Is this where you call me a liar and storm away like a *****?

Be a man and admit that you were wrong. Try being honest.

 

[Dot Com]

How does Keystone help the US?

it creates jobs..

not in the manufacturing sector. The pipes are made in good ol' India

So how many permanent jobs will it create hackgrl?

 

[Rotagilla]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

If we were producing more here and importing more from closer, the price would go down and we wouldn't need to care what opec says or does.
Supply and demand.

 

[Rotagilla]

Keep reading. It will do you good.

I know more about it than you might think.

Here's the facts of life;

Greater supply = lower prices.

Nope. Not in the case of oil. Is this where you call me a liar and storm away like a *****?

Be a man and admit that you were wrong. Try being honest.

I've made and proven my case.

Your (standard and predictable) juvenile insults are noted and that will be the end of this discussion.

 

[LoneLaugher]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

If we were producing more here and importing more from closer, the price would go down and we wouldn't need to care what opec says or does.
Supply and demand.

Do you think the oil that travels in those pipes is going to be used here?
Are you aware that we have increased oil production in this nation over the past 4 years? Has it lowered prices?

Please......man up.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I know more about it than you might think.

Here's the facts of life;

Greater supply = lower prices.

Nope. Not in the case of oil. Is this where you call me a liar and storm away like a *****?

Be a man and admit that you were wrong. Try being honest.

I've made and proven my case.

Your (standard and predictable) juvenile insults are noted and that will be the end of this discussion.

I responded to your insults, junior. You are leaving as predicted.....rather than admitting your error and talking like a man.

**** off.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

Quintessential ******* democrat. Where does the money to pay for that overhead work come from? It has to be taken from capital producers. It creates no capital in itself. It's not the result of any capital creation.
Geez, democrats should not be allowed to vote!

 

[Pogo]

what is wrong with Congress in that they can't just override Obama and do what would be good for America? The crying bleeding heart liberals said the same about the Alaskan pipeline and the only problem we have had is when a bleeding heart liberal shot a hole in the pipeline. More jobs and opportunity lost because of Obama. Thanks.

Canada OKs oil pipeline to the Pacific Coast

He was "profoundly disappointed" that U.S. President Barack Obama has delayed a decision on the Texas Keystone XL option, and spoke of the need to diversify Canada's oil industry. Ninety-seven percent of Canadian oil exports now go to the U.S.

Meanwhile, China's growing economy is hungry for Canadian oil. Chinese state-owned companies have invested more than $40 billion in Canadian energy in the past few years.

How exactly is acting as a middleman for Big Oil "good for America"?

We get 35 new jobs keeping our collective finger in the dyke so prairie sludge can get to Asia easier, and hope it doesn't touch the aquifier? That's it?

Be still my heart...

 

[Pogo]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

If we were producing more here and importing more from closer, the price would go down and we wouldn't need to care what opec says or does.
Supply and demand.

Unfortunately the oil biz doesn't work anything like that.

 

[tinydancer]

An oil company has a "solution" just like BP and Halleburton had with the blowout preventer with the Deepwater horizon. Oh that's right, they didn't.

If you believe oil companies have a true solution for WHEN something goes wrong to protect the environment, then I have oceanfront property in Iowa to sell you.

Oh piss off. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Pipeline spills are very rare.

By the way I'm a mega conservationist and have been for decades. Not an enviro whacko. Pipelines are extraordinarily safe compared to shipping by rail or shipping by truck.

Now take a look at pipelines across America. Very safe and very well maintained with rare exceptions.

rare indeed ...

North Dakota recorded 300 oil spills in two years without notifying the public | Environment | theguardian.com

Well isn't that headline a flamer!



Just came in from the garden and saw what you were trying to pass off here as major events.

From your own link...

Records obtained by the AP show that so far this year, North Dakota has recorded 139 pipeline leaks that spilled a total of 735 barrels of oil. In 2012, there were 153 pipeline leaks that spilled 495 barrels of oil, data show.

A little more than half of the spills companies reported to North Dakota occurred "on-site," where a well is connected to a pipeline, and most were fewer than 10 barrels. The remainder of the spills occurred along the state's labyrinth of pipelines.

Average fewer than 10 barrels.

Now the Tioga one was bad and Tesoro need their asses kicked from here to kingdom come for not reporting the spill.

But let's compare what you were trying to pull off as some mega amount of humongous spills polluting all of ND compared to one rail incident late last year.

One rail incident.

About 400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled from 18 rail cars after after a Dec. 30 derailment near Casselton, N.D., the National Transportation Safety Board said in a preliminary investigation report Monday.

An ensuing explosion sent a massive mushroom cloud of fire above the prairie and forced the evacuation of 1,400 residents.

Damage was estimated at $6.1 million, the NTSB said.

The accident occurred when a BNSF Railway grain train derailed on the westbound tracks, obstructing the eastbound tracks less than a minute before the 106-car oil train arrived.

400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled in North Dakota train crash - Los Angeles Times

 

[Siete]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

read my edit on post 103 ... you can thank me later.

or

The eastern Gulf of Mexico - an area stretching from 125 to 300 miles off Florida's coast - was singled out for protection by Congress in 2006 as part of a deal with Florida lawmakers that made available 8.3 million acres to oil and gas development in the east-central Gulf. The protected region is to remain off limits to energy development until 2022

 

[rightwinger]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

Quintessential ******* democrat. Where does the money to pay for that overhead work come from? It has to be taken from capital producers. It creates no capital in itself. It's not the result of any capital creation.
Geez, democrats should not be allowed to vote!

What do you think the purpose of infrastructure is?

You cheap ***** who can't look past the next ten minutes will not invest in anything to help the country. Capital producers benefit more from our infrastructure than working americans

There is a difference in spending $10,000 to fix your roof and spending $10,000 on a vacation.

 

[Siete]

Oh piss off. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Pipeline spills are very rare.

By the way I'm a mega conservationist and have been for decades. Not an enviro whacko. Pipelines are extraordinarily safe compared to shipping by rail or shipping by truck.

Now take a look at pipelines across America. Very safe and very well maintained with rare exceptions.

rare indeed ...

North Dakota recorded 300 oil spills in two years without notifying the public | Environment | theguardian.com

Well isn't that headline a flamer!



Just came in from the garden and saw what you were trying to pass off here as major events.

From your own link...

Records obtained by the AP show that so far this year, North Dakota has recorded 139 pipeline leaks that spilled a total of 735 barrels of oil. In 2012, there were 153 pipeline leaks that spilled 495 barrels of oil, data show.

A little more than half of the spills companies reported to North Dakota occurred "on-site," where a well is connected to a pipeline, and most were fewer than 10 barrels. The remainder of the spills occurred along the state's labyrinth of pipelines.

Average fewer than 10 barrels.

Now the Tioga one was bad and Tesoro need their asses kicked from here to kingdom come for not reporting the spill.

But let's compare what you were trying to pull off as some mega amount of humongous spills polluting all of ND compared to one rail incident late last year.

One rail incident.

About 400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled from 18 rail cars after after a Dec. 30 derailment near Casselton, N.D., the National Transportation Safety Board said in a preliminary investigation report Monday.

An ensuing explosion sent a massive mushroom cloud of fire above the prairie and forced the evacuation of 1,400 residents.

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400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled in North Dakota train crash
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National Transportation Safety Board board member Robert Sumwalt, right, views damaged rail cars in Casselton, N.D., recently.

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About 400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled from 18 rail cars after after a Dec. 30 derailment near Casselton, N.D., the National Transportation Safety Board said in a preliminary investigation report Monday.

An ensuing explosion sent a massive mushroom cloud of fire above the prairie and forced the evacuation of 1,400 residents.

Damage was estimated at $6.1 million, the NTSB said.

The accident occurred when a BNSF Railway grain train derailed on the westbound tracks, obstructing the eastbound tracks less than a minute before the 106-car oil train arrived.

400,000 gallons of crude oil spilled in North Dakota train crash - Los Angeles Times

a spill is a spill isn't it? just because they aren't reported doesn't mean they are rare.. nice try

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

More for you.

Tasnim News Agency - Oil Prices to Remain Around $ 100 a Barrel: Iranian Official

You can thank me later.

If we were producing more here and importing more from closer, the price would go down and we wouldn't need to care what opec says or does.
Supply and demand.

Do you think the oil that travels in those pipes is going to be used here?
Are you aware that we have increased oil production in this nation over the past 4 years? Has it lowered prices?

Please......man up.

That increased oil production canard is a misdirection. While there has been an increase it has not kept up with demand and this is known. Obama's resistance to drill more has led to price increases. Again, if you increase food for your family from enough to feed four to enough to feed six but your family has increased to eight, though you are doing more you aren't doing enough.
Obama know this, lies about it and perpetuates the problem.

 

[tinydancer]

Then you have this stat.

Crude oil spills are bigger from trains than pipelines

Crude oil spills are bigger from trains than pipelines | Globalnews.ca

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

Quintessential ******* democrat. Where does the money to pay for that overhead work come from? It has to be taken from capital producers. It creates no capital in itself. It's not the result of any capital creation.
Geez, democrats should not be allowed to vote!

What do you think the purpose of infrastructure is?

You cheap ***** who can't look past the next ten minutes will not invest in anything to help the country. Capital producers benefit more from our infrastructure than working americans

There is a difference in spending $10,000 to fix your roof and spending $10,000 on a vacation.

There is no difference between spending on a vacation or spending on repairs. It's still spending. And in he case of 'infrastructure jobs', it's about spending money that doesn't exist. The money has to come of somewhere. Democrats don't understand this.

 

[Pogo]

Can you expand on that?
Tell me why easier access to oil is "sad"?

I've got a minute.

The jobs are temporary.

The oil that flows in those pipes won't bring down our gas prices or our energy prices.

The sad part is that you believe the opposite of what I just said to be true. And you will believe what you believe in spite of the facts not being on your side.

The refinery jobs are not temporary, more finished petroleum products in the world market will bing down overall prices, to say otherwise would denying the reality of economics.

Your post denies the reality of oil economics. That's why importing from Canada versus say Nigeria or Saudi Arabia makes no difference. Oil is bought and sold on the international market. How far a drop of crude had to travel from the earth to the gas pump is really irrelevant.

The refinery jobs are not temporary-- they're the same jobs already there. All a pipeline does is facilitate a flow of raw material, thereby cutting the oil company's costs. But the end result still goes on, and is priced by, that world market. Refineries already run at full capacity.

And even if you were Jed Clampett and unearthed a gihugic oil well by shooting into the ground and flooded the supply enough to make a splash, OPEC just shrugs, cuts its own production by an equal amount and goes to lunch. It's the way it works.

That crude, in either country's pipeline, simply goes to a refinery located near enough to a shipping port where it can be loaded on ships to Asia. All it does is grease the wheels of overhead for the Exxons and cut their costs.

In return for that benefit, Big Oil gives us (or Canada) ------ what?

 

[tinydancer]

And then you have this stat.

They’re also cheaper: $5 to $9 per barrel of oil through a pipeline, compared to $10 to $20 per barrel by train, he said. Jessica Wilkinson, spokesperson for oilsands producer Cenovus, gave similar figures: $7 to $10 per barrel by pipeline versus $15 to $18 by train.

Crude oil spills are bigger from trains than pipelines | Globalnews.ca

 

[Siete]

If we were producing more here and importing more from closer, the price would go down and we wouldn't need to care what opec says or does.
Supply and demand.

Do you think the oil that travels in those pipes is going to be used here?
Are you aware that we have increased oil production in this nation over the past 4 years? Has it lowered prices?

Please......man up.

That increased oil production canard is a misdirection. While there has been an increase it has not kept up with demand and this is known. Obama's resistance to drill more has led to price increases. Again, if you increase food for your family from enough to feed four to enough to feed six but your family has increased to eight, though you are doing more you aren't doing enough.
Obama know this, lies about it and perpetuates the problem.

our increase in production or a pipeline won't and can't quell demand in CHINA .... canard that


a pipeline that would lower the cost of oil in the global market is a misdirection


canard alert

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Oil-Glut-Threatens-US-Shale-Revolution.html


lol