Canada apporves new oil pipeline

[thereisnospoon]

How does Keystone help the US?

Revenue and JOBS...Dummy.
You're so worried about Obama's ego...Go to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and kiss his ass.
You're so worried about the environment, stop driving and no electricity for you.
Got it?

 

[Rotagilla]

the voice of reason and logic has spoken

Yes, you realize of course the logic that sending oil on little boats on the big ocean is risk free, it's not risky like sending it across land and we need to do that more...

yeah, there's a shortage of pipelines in this country... one or two more is bound to make a big difference in global prices

Anything that affects the production or flow of oil, affects the price.

By increasing production here and allowing the easier import of canadian oil, prices will be affected.


More oil = lower prices. Common sense.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Northern Gateway tanker threat spurs First Nation's yarn 'blockade' - Politics - CBC News

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LOL...canadians won't build it.

So a few dopey protesters, many of which most likely do not have jobs and live off the public tit, have nothing better to do that whine. **** 'em...
These people would protest a sunny day

 

[thereisnospoon]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

Yes...and what substance do you think is required to run those projects and vehicles that travel over them?
God Dammit, you lefties are stupid.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

You are one of these liberal activists who protests or opposes because your ideological leaders told you to do so.
The stupid comes in as you don't even know what it is you are in opposition.

 

[Siete]

Yes, you realize of course the logic that sending oil on little boats on the big ocean is risk free, it's not risky like sending it across land and we need to do that more...

yeah, there's a shortage of pipelines in this country... one or two more is bound to make a big difference in global prices

Anything that affects the production or flow of oil, affects the price.

By increasing production here and allowing the easier import of canadian oil, prices will be affected.


More oil = lower prices. Common sense.

higher prices less sales ... common sense.


how does Saudi transport oil from the Persian Gulf to China ? what happens when Saudi cuts production and offsets any increase Canada produces ?


hint; ... its called price control and little boats.

it is what it is

 

[thereisnospoon]

I've never understood the Republican obsession with Keystone.....Think of the JOBs....we only care about the JOBs

If Republicans want JOBS....why don't they push for more infrastructure construction projects? Roads, bridges, tunnels, dams, power and communication grid and most importantly......upgrading and maintaining what we have

Yet, every time these projects come up...Republicans sit on them

conservatives do push for this spending I can't see how you can say otherwise. The government is spending already MORE then they take in how in the hell can we increase spending? The left rails about the TP wanting financial responsibility and the left offers absolutely no alternative other then to spend even more. It is crazy.

Other than it had Obamas name on it, why did they kill the Obama Jobs bill that was mostly infrastructure improvement?
Why did Chris Christie kill the NYC tunnell that would have provided thousands of more jobs than Keystone? Why didn't Republicans protest that?
Where are all the Republican infrastructure bills? They are good at proposing kill Obamacare bills, why can't they push for some infrastructure?

Because government spending in such gigantic amounts of money with little or no return on investment is bad for the economy.
That trans hudson tunnel had an original proce tag of $8 billion. With cost over runs, union bullshit and a whole host of other issues which come up would probably doubled the time to completion...BTW the thing would not open for 15 years.
It was simply a "make work" idea. And the states of NY and NJ do not have the money to pay for it.

 

[Rotagilla]

higher prices less sales ... common sense.

Yes. ...and?
Now you can explain to me why higher prices are good for america.

how does Saudi transport oil from the Persian Gulf to China ?

Not through the pipeline from canada we're talking about...So what's your point?

what happens when Saudi cuts production and offsets any increase Canada produces ?

We get more oil from canada than from saudi arabia. See..it's a lot closer and therefore more efficient and cheaper.

The more we drill and produce, the less we need to import anyway. Why do you want us to buy products at a higher price from foreign countries when we could produce it here?

Not to mention the jobs.

hint; ... its called price control and little boats.

..and the more we produce, the less influence other nations can exert on us by artificially manipulating the prices.

it is what it is

Yeah...that's quite a profound statement.

 

[kaz]

the voice of reason and logic has spoken

Yes, you realize of course the logic that sending oil on little boats on the big ocean is risk free, it's not risky like sending it across land and we need to do that more...

yeah, there's a shortage of pipelines in this country... one or two more is bound to make a big difference in global prices

You mean because gas is so cheap now, we don't need to worry about prices?

 

[kaz]

Yes, you realize of course the logic that sending oil on little boats on the big ocean is risk free, it's not risky like sending it across land and we need to do that more...

yeah, there's a shortage of pipelines in this country... one or two more is bound to make a big difference in global prices

Anything that affects the production or flow of oil, affects the price.

By increasing production here and allowing the easier import of canadian oil, prices will be affected.


More oil = lower prices. Common sense.

Yes, it is. That's why the liberals don't grasp it.

 

[1776]

Obama has been caught on video saying he was going to drive UP energy costs on Americans to "save the planet."

Meanwhile liberal scum will claim Obama is looking out for the middle class and poor....

 

[kaz]

yeah, there's a shortage of pipelines in this country... one or two more is bound to make a big difference in global prices

Anything that affects the production or flow of oil, affects the price.

By increasing production here and allowing the easier import of canadian oil, prices will be affected.


More oil = lower prices. Common sense.

higher prices less sales ... common sense.


how does Saudi transport oil from the Persian Gulf to China ? what happens when Saudi cuts production and offsets any increase Canada produces ?


hint; ... its called price control and little boats.

it is what it is

So Saudi Arabia is going to take the hit of offsetting Canadian oil and cutting off their cashflow? Why would they do that? Other than pure speculation, you got anything to prove that?

Are they going to cut more for US fracking? And again for increased Russian oil? And again for Iraqi oil production increases?

 

[kaz]

Obama has been caught on video saying he was going to drive UP energy costs on Americans to "save the planet."

Meanwhile liberal scum will claim Obama is looking out for the middle class and poor....

And yet who is it who endlessly whines to high heaven about gas prices? The left of course...

 

[Siete]

higher prices less sales ... common sense.

Yes. ...and?
Now you can explain to me why higher prices are good for america.

how does Saudi transport oil from the Persian Gulf to China ?

Not through the pipeline from canada we're talking about...So what's your point?



We get more oil from canada than from saudi arabia. See..it's a lot closer and therefore more efficient and cheaper.

The more we drill and produce, the less we need to import anyway. Why do you want us to buy products at a higher price from foreign countries when we could produce it here?

Not to mention the jobs.

hint; ... its called price control and little boats.

..and the more we produce, the less influence other nations can exert on us by artificially manipulating the prices.

it is what it is

Yeah...that's quite a profound statement.

what part of global market confuses you ?

Canada cant compete with OPEC when it boils down to production ... OPEC can control the price of a barrel of oil on the GLOBAL MARKET

see how that works ?

 

[Kosh]

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

 

[Siete]

Global markets for dummies, errrrrrrrr Republican Pipeliners

HowStuffWorks "How the Crude Oil Market Works"

 

[1776]

It is also about "saving the planet" and controlling people's lives.

They don't like white people in middle America driving SUVs and trucks, so they drive up the cost of oil/gas in order to push people into hybrids and mini-me cars.

Many liberal scum don't own a car because they are poor or live in the "big city" where they ride a bus and subway for years. They don't like to see people in Texas driving cars, so they support Obama driving up energy costs to get those "red state" people.

Also, higher energy costs to maintain temps in your house will also force you out of a big home into a smaller one or better yet a community apartment complex where you can't own a car......

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

 

[Rotagilla]

higher prices less sales ... common sense.

Yes. ...and?
Now you can explain to me why higher prices are good for america.




Not through the pipeline from canada we're talking about...So what's your point?



We get more oil from canada than from saudi arabia. See..it's a lot closer and therefore more efficient and cheaper.

The more we drill and produce, the less we need to import anyway. Why do you want us to buy products at a higher price from foreign countries when we could produce it here?

Not to mention the jobs.




..and the more we produce, the less influence other nations can exert on us by artificially manipulating the prices.

it is what it is

Yeah...that's quite a profound statement.

what part of global market confuses you ?

Canada cant compete with OPEC when it boils down to production ... OPEC can control the price of a barrel of oil on the GLOBAL MARKET

see how that works ?

Canada isn't trying to "compete" with OPEC that I know of. It doesn't matter anyway. Canada is closer, so oil from them would be cheaper than importing it from thousands of miles away.
Easier access to oil along with increased production here will lower the price of oil while boosting our own economy.

Explain how high oil prices are good for america?

Explain how it is better to import oil than produce it ourselves?

Why are you against lower energy prices?

 

[Siete]

The far left wants higher energy prices so they can justify their tax and spend stance.

I'm pro deep water drilling BTW




Explain how high oil prices are good for america?


they aren't ... explain how a pissant pipeline will or CAN lower prices on the GLOBAL MARKET

 

[Rotagilla]

Global markets for dummies, errrrrrrrr Republican Pipeliners

HowStuffWorks "How the Crude Oil Market Works"

From your link.


The prices of commodities are always in flux because they depend on worldwide supply and demand.....

Four major factors help determine the price of oil: supply, consumption, financial markets and government policies [source: Murphy].

.....Other countries have strong supplies, including Russia, Venezuela and even the United States. The oil found in Texas in the early 20th century resulted in a significant economic boom for that region. In fact, North America is currently the world's second-largest oil producer [source: Energy Information Administration].

Groups like OPEC -- the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries -- monitor their oil supply and can ration it out as they see fit, which sways the supply and price of oil. This is what led to the "gas crisis" of the 1970s: the Middle Eastern members of OPEC decided to "punish" Western nations for their support of Israel in the war in which the latter was attacked by Syria and Egypt. They imposed an oil embargo, and the result was a drastic upswing in oil prices. A severe recession ensued where gas prices in the U.S. rose from 30 cents per gallon (about 7 cents per liter) to about $1.20 per gallon (about 32 cents per liter) at the height of the crisis [source: Trumbore]. Geopolitical crisis', especially in volatile places like the Middle East, can have a big effect on gas prices in the United States.