Can we last till the election?

[Orangecat]

How would you know? You didn't even get the joke.

I hate to break it to you, carrot-top, but jokes are supposed to be funny.
And, yes, I'll take some fries with that.

 

[colfax_m]

I hate to break it to you, carrot-top, but jokes are supposed to be funny.
And, yes, I'll take some fries with that.

You’re telling me that you didn’t think a joke about your crazy bullshit was very funny?

That’s not exactly surprising.

You’re a lunatic with no self awareness.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

No we can't last until the next election. Did you see Fuck Joe today? He thinks he is changing the world. Staff ended the presser by force to shut him up.

We are building ships that don't work. That can't even defend itself.

Navy's US$13B carrier sows doubt that it can defend itself - BNN Bloomberg

The combat system for the Navy’s newest and costliest warship, the US$13 billion Gerald R. Ford, “has yet to demonstrate that it can effectively” defend the aircraft carrier from anti-ship missiles and other threats, according to a new assessment by the Pentagon’s testing office.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

This is not the right track.

 

[DBA]

Broadly speaking, the biggest government issue driving inflation is that the government handed money out to Americans who spent it. Now, if that's the complaint, that Americans have too much money, then what the hell are people complaining about with regard to inflation?

The freebies aren't going as far, that is the complaint. Also, keep in mind, all of us didn't get the freebies. I got zero stimulus checks. Note that anyone that has money invested should be concerned about inflation. Currently, you would need to be earning about 14% to net a 7% real gain. Retired folks who want to be very conservative with their investments are essentially losing money. Invest in a Treasury bond at 1.75% and you are paying them 5.5% to take your money.

 

[colfax_m]

The freebies aren't going as far, that is the complaint. Also, keep in mind, all of us didn't get the freebies. I got zero stimulus checks. Note that anyone that has money invested should be concerned about inflation. Currently, you would need to be earning about 14% to net a 7% real gain. Retired folks who want to be very conservative with their investments are essentially losing money. Invest in a Treasury bond at 1.75% and you are paying them 5.5% to take your money.

The market did pretty good last year. Nearly 20% bump. Those who didn’t get checks don’t have much to worry about fiscally. A few extra percent cost for food isn’t going to hurt them.

Retired folks with money invested did well. Social security bumps follow inflation. As for treasuries, that’s what inflation protected treasuries are for.

If the freebies aren’t going as far, then we wouldn’t have inflation stimulated by consumption.

 

[22lcidw]

Did you know impeachment and conviction can bar someone from holding office in the future?

We don't believe the people doing the impeaching. Repubs have every right to do multiple impeaching inquisitions like Progs do. They do not even have to win. Just bring out the dirt. Show the Progs that they should stop and desist on their craziness. The Party you follow is ruled by people on the edge with a good chunk of the population voting for it and many not knowing what they are getting but it sounds good.

 

[j-mac]

Primary sources. Local stations. If I go big, I'll go somewhere like Reuters or BBC.

Almost never the MSM.

And definitely not facebook, twitter, other social media, propaganda websites, or propaganda mailing lists. That's what really separates liberals from conservatives. There's simply no liberal equivalent to the conservative propaganda factories. I wouldn't be able to find such a thing even if I tried.

Primary sources such as? Reuters, and BBC are really no different than CNN when it comes to the overwhelming amount of liberal editorial content in their reporting...As for no equal to FNC, are you kidding? Most of the newspapers in America are liberal slanted outlets, all three alphabet stations are liberal pap, CNN, MSNBC, Democracy now, Pacifica etc....all Liberal....

The problem with news today isn't that there isn't news, it's that the reporting of it has changed...injecting opinion into a story for political purposes has destroyed the credibility of journalism.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

I know many people are looking forward to judgement day in the 2022 elections, but can we last till November?

Will there be anything left of the country?

And if we do, will the GOP respond since they usually don't?

Very depressing.

Its a good question. The Left knows they are going to lose and God only knows what sort of horror they will unleash in the lust to keep power

 

[Orangecat]

You’re telling me that you didn’t think a joke about your crazy bullshit was very funny?

No, I'm telling you that you're a dullard. Someone should've let you know by now, but you seem blissfully ignorant to that fact.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Then House Speaker DJT will commence the impeachment parade.

Trump thinks he can impeach people from prison?

Do you like the SCOTUS makeup?

Thanks, Moscow McTurtle, your days are numbered, like your daddy's are.

Reap what you sow again, motherfuckers.

Most will be headed to prison.

 

[Smokin' OP]

When Trump said it's all rigged, no truer words were spoken

Republiscum are making sure it will be rigged.

 

[Smokin' OP]

There's a thing called the Constitution.
It limits presidents to two full terms.
Try reading it.

Trump didn't think so.
His cult approved.

August 18 2020
Even as he fights for a second term in November, President Donald Trump already has his eye on extending his stay in the White House for a lot longer.
"We are going to win four more years," Trump said at a rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin on Monday. "And then after that, we'll go for another four years because they spied on my campaign. We should get a redo of four years."

 

[colfax_m]

No, I'm telling you that you're a dullard. Someone should've let you know by now, but you seem blissfully ignorant to that fact.

You are upset at being the butt of a joke you didn’t get.

Move on.

 

[DBA]

The market did pretty good last year. Nearly 20% bump. Those who didn’t get checks don’t have much to worry about fiscally. A few extra percent cost for food isn’t going to hurt them.

Retired folks with money invested did well. Social security bumps follow inflation. As for treasuries, that’s what inflation protected treasuries are for.

If the freebies aren’t going as far, then we wouldn’t have inflation stimulated by consumption.

Yes, the market did well last year, mainly due to stimulus(artificial). Just remove 7% from your gain to get your real rate of return. This year is off to a very rocky start and it is only a sign of things to come. Without more stimulus, the markets will continue to contract. Inflation hurts those with less income the hardest, that is for sure, which is kind of ironic that these are the folks the Democrats claim to protect. Their policies do quite the opposite.

Social Security follows the CPI, not actual inflation. As for protected treasuries, go all in now because you are likely to get a good return. Just be prepared to sit on your money for at least 5 years. The protected treasury is following inflation so you really only protect your asset and not increase it, in fact, you very well may lose the real buying power of your investment because, like SS, the CPI is the metric, not actual inflation.

The freebies haven't run out yet, but they aren't going as far. Many were able to stockpile quite a bit of cash between stimulus and pandemic unemployment, not counting the moratorium on evictions without paying rent, etc. That money will run out unless Biden offers more of them. Again, it is artificial and bound for failure. The complaining is that those that have stockpiled can see their money depleting faster than it was and they want more stimulus. That isn't stopping them from spending because "free" money is easy to spend and most aren't nearly as tight with it as with money they had to earn.

 

[Dragonlady]

You guys are truly amazing with your hypocrisy. You read what you want to read. Meanwhile, you guys said the very same thing for four years, "How long can the country last under Trump?". How is it you can say that but I can't?

Because Trump was deliberately destroying the country and that was obvious to anyone who watched. Manufacturing was already in a recession. His tax cuts did NOTHING for 40% of working Americans. He didn't know how to legislate his agenda so he tried to push everything through on executive orders.

Trump's much vaunted negotiation skills are non-existent. He got screwed over on every deal he made on behalf of the American people. He tore up your trade deals and told your manufacturers to find different supply chains. That's why the supply chain crisis is so much worse in the USA today, than in the rest of the world.

Food prices in the USA are rising because of Trump policies on the Southern Border. You have no illegals to pick or process your food. With wages rising, and having no illegals to hire, meat processors and truck farmers have no one to do the work. When you build your economy around 11 million unpaid illegals working the fields, you're gonna need to keep the illegals coming. That's the REAL reason why Republicans won't reform immigration. The current disaster is working for them.

Trump was the worst President in my lifetime. I always wondered how Trump lost so much money in business, but watching him in action for four years, I now understand completely. Chaos, dysfunction, and a revolving door in hiring. Spend, spend, spend, with no idea where the money is coming from. You can't run things well when 25% of your staff are gone in the first year.

Trump was so busy attacked his "enemies" that he forgot that the first job of government is to keep the country running smoothly. From the moment he took office, jobs numbers started dropping. So did GDP, but the deficit soared. That means dealing with police violence against citizens. Trump ended all of the police reform programs and told officers not to be "so gentle" arresting suspects. Four years later you have race riots over the level of police violence against people they're arresting.

Last but not least, you don't cut taxes in a boom economy unless you have a balanced budget. You raise them to cover the deficit. From the moment Trump signed the tax cut into law, the crash was inevitable. The first two times Republicans cut taxes and increased the deficit, the economy crashed. The third time was not going to be the charm.

Republicans have proven themselves incapable of running the country, responsibly. They keep crashing the economy every time they're in office, and your infrastructure has gone to hell in an handbasket. People are rioting in the streets and you blame the leftists for this.

When you ignore the problems the people are facing, and beat them up for complaining about you doing nothing, you're going to have trouble. The government is supposed to be working in partnership with business and the people, to give both their best chance of succeeding. Republicans pit the people against the corporations, and the government, and then bitch about the people being out of control, when they protest.

 

[Dragonlady]

Yes, the market did well last year, mainly due to stimulus(artificial). Just remove 7% from your gain to get your real rate of return. This year is off to a very rocky start and it is only a sign of things to come. Without more stimulus, the markets will continue to contract. Inflation hurts those with less income the hardest, that is for sure, which is kind of ironic that these are the folks the Democrats claim to protect. Their policies do quite the opposite.

Social Security follows the CPI, not actual inflation. As for protected treasuries, go all in now because you are likely to get a good return. Just be prepared to sit on your money for at least 5 years. The protected treasury is following inflation so you really only protect your asset and not increase it, in fact, you very well may lose the real buying power of your investment because, like SS, the CPI is the metric, not actual inflation.

The freebies haven't run out yet, but they aren't going as far. Many were able to stockpile quite a bit of cash between stimulus and pandemic unemployment, not counting the moratorium on evictions without paying rent, etc. That money will run out unless Biden offers more of them. Again, it is artificial and bound for failure. The complaining is that those that have stockpiled can see their money depleting faster than it was and they want more stimulus. That isn't stopping them from spending because "free" money is easy to spend and most aren't nearly as tight with it as with money they had to earn.

I did a whole analysis of that for Sassy Irish bitch and blew that whole 7% tax bullshit out of the water. The stock market tripled under Obama. It Dow Jones went from around 6000 to 18,000 when Trump took office.

You only pay capital gains tax once - when you sell the stock. So if you bought a $100 stock in 2008 when it was at it lowest point, and sold it for $200 when you sold it 4 years later, you would pay 7% of the capital gain of $100, which is $7. That would leave you with a net sale price of $193.

Trump's stock market only went up by 50% in his first term, Obama doubled the DOW in his first term, So if you bought a $100 stock in 2016 when Trump took office, and sold it for 50% more in 2020, you would get $150 for your stock. $150 is less than $193.00.

So is it better to have 20% growth and a 7% capital gains tax, or 10% growth and no tax? The stock market did better under Clinton and Obama than it did under Reagan, W or Trump. I'll go with the Dems and consider the 7% a reasonable fee for the enhanced growth.

 

[Independentthinker]

Because Trump was deliberately destroying the country and that was obvious to anyone who watched. Manufacturing was already in a recession. His tax cuts did NOTHING for 40% of working Americans. He didn't know how to legislate his agenda so he tried to push everything through on executive orders.

Trump's much vaunted negotiation skills are non-existent. He got screwed over on every deal he made on behalf of the American people. He tore up your trade deals and told your manufacturers to find different supply chains. That's why the supply chain crisis is so much worse in the USA today, than in the rest of the world.

Food prices in the USA are rising because of Trump policies on the Southern Border. You have no illegals to pick or process your food. With wages rising, and having no illegals to hire, meat processors and truck farmers have no one to do the work. When you build your economy around 11 million unpaid illegals working the fields, you're gonna need to keep the illegals coming. That's the REAL reason why Republicans won't reform immigration. The current disaster is working for them.

Trump was the worst President in my lifetime. I always wondered how Trump lost so much money in business, but watching him in action for four years, I now understand completely. Chaos, dysfunction, and a revolving door in hiring. Spend, spend, spend, with no idea where the money is coming from. You can't run things well when 25% of your staff are gone in the first year.

Trump was so busy attacked his "enemies" that he forgot that the first job of government is to keep the country running smoothly. From the moment he took office, jobs numbers started dropping. So did GDP, but the deficit soared. That means dealing with police violence against citizens. Trump ended all of the police reform programs and told officers not to be "so gentle" arresting suspects. Four years later you have race riots over the level of police violence against people they're arresting.

Last but not least, you don't cut taxes in a boom economy unless you have a balanced budget. You raise them to cover the deficit. From the moment Trump signed the tax cut into law, the crash was inevitable. The first two times Republicans cut taxes and increased the deficit, the economy crashed. The third time was not going to be the charm.

Republicans have proven themselves incapable of running the country, responsibly. They keep crashing the economy every time they're in office, and your infrastructure has gone to hell in an handbasket. People are rioting in the streets and you blame the leftists for this.

When you ignore the problems the people are facing, and beat them up for complaining about you doing nothing, you're going to have trouble. The government is supposed to be working in partnership with business and the people, to give both their best chance of succeeding. Republicans pit the people against the corporations, and the government, and then bitch about the people being out of control, when they protest.

Ummmmmmmmmmm, the country is far, far worse than it ever was under Trump. Hell, the Virus is even more out of control now than then, just for one thing. If you look at recent elections and the upcoming midterms where many dems are jumping off the Titanic before it goes down, you will see that voters believe the country is on the wrong track, around 70% of them, in spite of what Biden, Psaki, and Tom Hanks say.

So, if you are saying that Biden's doing his best while Trump was purposely trying to sabotage the country, you have lost complete touch with reality. If Biden's best is worse than Trump's worst, the country definitely is going in the wrong direction.

 

[eddiew37]

Ummmmmmmmmmm, the country is far, far worse than it ever was under Trump. Hell, the Virus is even more out of control now than then, just for one thing. If you look at recent elections and the upcoming midterms where many dems are jumping off the Titanic before it goes down, you will see that voters believe the country is on the wrong track, around 70% of them, in spite of what Biden, Psaki, and Tom Hanks say.

So, if you are saying that Biden's doing his best while Trump was purposely trying to sabotage the country, you have lost complete touch with reality. If Biden's best is worse than Trump's worst, the country definitely is going in the wrong direction.

The cream of the crap

Rick Scott touts Everglades investments from bill he opposed -- Rick Scott said he was "proud" to help secure new Everglades investments. He neglected to mention that he opposed the bill that provided the funds.​

House Republicans have been tripping over one another in recent weeks, trying to claim credit for infrastructure investments from a law they tried to kill. In fact, the list keeps growing: NBC News flagged a related example this morning, noting Republican Rep. Tony Gonzales of Texas celebrating an ecosystem restoration plan in his district that's backed by funds from a bill he opposed.
But it now appears the phenomenon is not limited to the House. HuffPost reported late yesterday:

Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) on Tuesday became the latest Republican lawmaker to seek credit for the bipartisan infrastructure overhaul he opposed in Congress. After joining U.S. Army Corps of Engineers officials for a tour of the Herbert Hoover Dike, which stands to benefit from investments in the law dedicated to making the Everglades more resilient against climate change, Scott said he was "proud" to help secure "an unprecedented $1 billion for Everglades restoration, the largest single amount ever allocated by the federal government."

The report added that the Florida Republican's office released photographs of Scott "shaking hands and posing with local officials," as politicians are wont to do.

What Scott didn't mention is that the unprecedented resources for Everglades restoration came by way of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act signed into law by President Joe Biden.
To be sure, the infrastructure package enjoyed at least some bipartisan backing, passing the Senate by an unexpectedly wide margin, 69 to 30.
The trouble, of course, is that Florida's Scott wasn't one of the 69.
As we've discussed more than once, I'm well aware of the standard GOP response to stories like these. It's common for lawmakers, especially when dealing with a massive, multifaceted piece of legislation, to like some elements of a bill while opposing the larger whole (or conversely, members might oppose some provisions while endorsing the larger whole). That's just part of the process.
But for the members being accused of hypocrisy, the larger context matters. Many Republicans condemned the infrastructure bill in no uncertain terms and soon after launched an offensive against the modest number of GOP lawmakers who dared to make it bipartisan by voting for it.
Scott, in particular, complained that Republicans donors were "furious" with the GOP senators who had the audacity to support the popular and effective legislation last summer.
But now that the investments are starting to reach the public at the local level, many of these same Republicans are nevertheless eager to present themselves as champions of the funding that probably wouldn't exist if they'd been successful in derailing the legislation.
Either the new law is reckless socialism, or it's poised to make worthwhile investments that will help a lot of people. Either Republicans are going to make the case against the package, or they're going to celebrate the parts of it that benefit their constituents.
When the GOP tries to do both at the same time — just as the party did with the Recovery Act and the American Rescue Plan — Republicans shouldn't be surprised when they get called out for their brazenness.
For the White House's part, a reporter asked Jen Psaki yesterday for her reaction to Republicans touting infrastructure projects that benefit their constituents, despite having opposed the bill.
"We welcome their support for the president's agenda and an agenda that was supported by some Republicans — not the majority," she responded. "And, hopefully, they'll take the right vote to support their communities and job creation in the future. Maybe it will make them think twice."

 

[Faun]

Its a good question. The Left knows they are going to lose and God only knows what sort of horror they will unleash in the lust to keep power

^^^ Proof rightards are nuts.

Nutjob, you claim the 2020 election was stolen. After 15 months, you still can't prove it. Now you're already claiming victory in the 2022 election.

That can't all be true. Are we capable of stealing an election without leaving a trace or not? If we are, how can you possibly win in November?

As always, rightards make no sense.

 

[DBA]

I did a whole analysis of that for Sassy Irish bitch and blew that whole 7% tax bullshit out of the water. The stock market tripled under Obama. It Dow Jones went from around 6000 to 18,000 when Trump took office.

You only pay capital gains tax once - when you sell the stock. So if you bought a $100 stock in 2008 when it was at it lowest point, and sold it for $200 when you sold it 4 years later, you would pay 7% of the capital gain of $100, which is $7. That would leave you with a net sale price of $193.

Trump's stock market only went up by 50% in his first term, Obama doubled the DOW in his first term, So if you bought a $100 stock in 2016 when Trump took office, and sold it for 50% more in 2020, you would get $150 for your stock. $150 is less than $193.00.

So is it better to have 20% growth and a 7% capital gains tax, or 10% growth and no tax? The stock market did better under Clinton and Obama than it did under Reagan, W or Trump. I'll go with the Dems and consider the 7% a reasonable fee for the enhanced growth.

Where did I mention the capital gains tax rate? I was talking about the current rate of inflation. If you are making 7% on your money you net gain zero of real buying power if the inflation rate is at 7%. Capital gains is another discussion.