The_Lyrical_Miracle
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Dude, I like to debate. You say my points are shit.. that's fine. Say HOW.. this isn't hard.Lol. Your points...
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Dude, I like to debate. You say my points are shit.. that's fine. Say HOW.. this isn't hard.Lol. Your points...
But you can shit faster than I can shovel it. Even in rainbow...Dude, I like to debate. You say my points are shit.. that's fine. Say HOW.. this isn't hard.
Please, just address one point.. just to say you're intellectually capable.But you can shit faster than I can shovel it. Even in rainbow...
That's the whole point of your Gish Gallop.
Purple is your best point.Please, just address one point
Those who believe the north started the war also believe Japan had no choice but to attack Pearl Harbor and that the Russians are justified in invading Ukraine.
Even the nuts at the Prager institute can see it.
If your next door neighbor, who you disowned after a squabble
LOL...thanks for the chuckle.A. Prager U is full of far more intellectual people than any mainstream media institutino, you, or I.
Eventually every one of your conversations goes that way so...yes you would.B. While I actually truthfully considered voting for Dennis Prager for president in a write-in one year, I whole-heartedly disagree with him on this issue, and I'd be glad to debate him on it. And guess what? I wouldn't have to hate him or show up to his thread and fill it with nothing but "you're just stupid" posts to do it! Who would have thought!
The problem is, what the framing of the question. Did the south single-handedly start the war? No. Did the North single-handedly start the war? No. The two were splitting, one provided cotton, the other benefitted off of cotton, both owned slaves, and when it was time for a PR campaign, a well-funded corporate Abe Lincoln came in and cut the south loose, and demonized them to the public despite the fact that they all profited off of the evil they were being directed to oppose. Lincoln had no morality as far as slavery, it was only about keeping the country together, any honest historian will tell you that. Once it was politically necessary to denounce slavery, that's when all the iconic Lincoln lines were said and written in stone, but there's no reason to be so obtuse to believe it considering so much other history and quotes of Lincoln out there at different times of his life, his slave ownership, etc.
Like, use your brain. I'm not saying the Confederacy was super awesome and with no flaws.. I'm saying the idea that the North was super awesome with no flaws is flawed, and when I suggest that the Confederacy isn't 100% evil, people like you freak out and have conniptions. It's very unhealthy. It's like if you were a German boy listening the Nazis telling you the history of the Jews. Nobody sais the Jews were perfect, but it's not as if the Nazis were righteous, courageous, etc. Most wars in history have tension leading up to it.
Blocked, see ya. I gave you one last shot, there's no hope. You replied to not one single point, you just got angry and lashed out from your pathetic ego. Do better please, and for God's sake, don't bother replying, you're on ignore.Purple is your best point.
Dude you don't even know who I am, we haven't even debated.. WTF are you talking about? LOLEventually every one of your conversations goes that way so...yes you would.
Lincoln fortified a foreign area, the foreigners retaliated.The rebs shot first...hence they started it.
You're so sensitive and easily-triggered, it's cute. You actually think saying something like that furthers your point.. it's adorable.And got their ass kicked.
I agree, it was adorable seeing the South destroyed after they started the war. The really cool thing was that the North didn't use 1/2 of it's soldiers to roll the South up.You're so sensitive and easily-triggered, it's cute. You actually think saying something like that furthers your point.. it's adorable.
Done.try to laugh to yourself
Dude, do you want to know the coolest thing about the Civil War??I agree, it was adorable seeing the South destroyed after they started the war. The really cool thing was that the North didn't use 1/2 of it's soldiers to roll the South up.
Wanna know another cool thing about the Civil War? The south lost. Bigly. The same rhetoric we hear here from Trump supporters was largely the same principles the backwards South was talking about before the Civil War. History repeats itself. And it will again.Dude, do you want to know the coolest thing about the Civil War??
You weren't in it.
Pfft...I've likely forgotten more about history than you'll ever know.So, you can stop fan-boying about it like a dork. It was a complex historical, tragic, struggle. And here you are with a fan-boy flag giggling about it. Go giggle at valley forge, ya dork. Or, grow a set of balls and grow up a bit when you talk about history.
Not interested.How about you just address a single point.. one of the 7.. i made with a counterargument that you might have and go from there. This isn't difficult.
By all means, point out your claim. I'm noticing that many on here like to make claims and then not back them up at all.
Who did I insult besides what I said. And do you think that it's bad to insult people who think Lincoln is the "epitome of evil"????
Answer the question, either own your hatred of America or scower off.
What specific non slavery related issues caused the civil war?Listen, I know many like to troll in today's society/politics and completely demonize the south as nothing but a bunch of immoral slave holders while siding with a supposed moral and superior north.
Meanwhile, modern leftists often make this difference while asserting that the northerners like Lincoln, who owned slaves, are the epitome of evil in all of mankind... but, enough of discrediting moronic leftists (which isn't to be confused with a classic American liberal, who is viewed as extremely Conservative by today's standards)....
But, let's get to history...
A few things that are ignored or evaded by commonists who just except baseline, vague, textbook American history on the Civil war include...
1. Both northerners and southerners owned slaves at the time of the war, and most southerners didn't own slaves.
2. Both north and south prominent leaders questioned the morality of slavery
3. Slavery as far as the value of a human wasnt the central issue of the war, economics and federal vs. states rights was.
4. The North wanted to bully many non-slavery-related issues onto the south and created a northern/southern block politically
5. Lincoln owned slaves, acted against Congress criminally, and even attacked his own populace in Maryland.
6. Lincoln sent armed forces to stockade a Confederate (aka foreign) owned base.
7. It was not "illegal" to succeed from the union until states actually succeeded from the union, so those who succeeded broke no rules.