Can Atheists be Moral?

[hobelim]

Yes its a hidden command.


You, a he-goat 'without blemish", have been carefully chosen and prepared as a sin offering.

Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord.

We can dedicate slaughters and not crackers though, magical-kook Billy!

We? lol ... the facade begins to crack...


How many of you are there?

did you have trouble following how you stepped on your own dick there, Billy?

Let me be clearer -

You mock folks for assuming a dedication is made to their sky fairy through a cracker, and stated that my slaughter is a dedication to your magical sky fairy.

They're equally ridiculous concepts because of the underlying, common thread: they both assume a sky fairy that likes sacrifices.

I make no such assumptions. I read the book, I understand the lessons and see how they apply to real life.

I see what God did so thats what I do.

so when you came slithering along full of guile I put you in your place, beneath all the cattle and the wild beasts of the field. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven and all that..Simple.

thats what is actually taking place.

you believe in a magical sky fairy because a book said some true things about how behavior works.

You're gullible, and a hypocrite, to boot.

You'd no sooner possess the capability to rationally justify your belief than a Pastafarian. Good luck with the angst and anxiety this causes you and manifests as sputtering mockery on the internet on a daily basis at christ crackerers.

lol ..... you keep telling me what you think that I believe and I keep telling you that you are wrong.

When I tell you what I do believe you try to ignore it and then deride a belief that I do not have.


looks like you are the one having a problem with angst and anxiety.

good luck with that yourself.

 

[hobelim]

We? lol ... the facade begins to crack...


How many of you are there?

did you have trouble following how you stepped on your own dick there, Billy?

Let me be clearer -

You mock folks for assuming a dedication is made to their sky fairy through a cracker, and stated that my slaughter is a dedication to your magical sky fairy.

They're equally ridiculous concepts because of the underlying, common thread: they both assume a sky fairy that likes sacrifices.

I make no such assumptions. I read the book, I understand the lessons and see how they apply to real life.

I see what God did so thats what I do.

so when you came slithering along full of guile I put you in your place, beneath all the cattle and the wild beasts of the field. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven and all that..Simple.

thats what is actually taking place.

you believe in a magical sky fairy because a book said some true things about how behavior works.

You're gullible, and a hypocrite, to boot.

You'd no sooner possess the capability to rationally justify your belief than a Pastafarian. Good luck with the angst and anxiety this causes you and manifests as sputtering mockery on the internet on a daily basis at christ crackerers.

lol ..... you keep telling me what you think that I believe and I keep telling you that you are wrong.

When I tell you what I do believe you try to ignore it and then deride a belief that I do not have.


looks like you are the one having a problem with angst and anxiety.

good luck with that yourself.

You've mis-comprehended again, HoeBilly.

Are you at a 1st grade reading level?

Your angst is prevalent, you've been mocking folks obsessively, on your ass, on the internet, for their magic beliefs because you're insecure of your own magic beliefs...it's apparent especially with your claim of a pure mind when you act like a gossippy, neenering little juvenile towards them. You have a lot of wood chips in your eyeballs, it seems like you stood in front of a stump grinder and opened wide.

5 years from now, you'll be of such peace of mind you'll still be talking about wafers.

Raise your paw, kook.

lol... you don't know where I am coming from, and you don't know where I am going. You don't have even the slightest inking about what I am doing now, so you have absolutely no idea about what I will or won't be doing tomorrow much less in five years...

I am not your ordinary run of the mill kook. lol...


I am Hobelim, son of sky fairy, king of the kooks.

 

[hobelim]

I make no such assumptions. I read the book, I understand the lessons and see how they apply to real life.

I see what God did so thats what I do.

so when you came slithering along full of guile I put you in your place, beneath all the cattle and the wild beasts of the field. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven and all that..Simple.

thats what is actually taking place.

you believe in a magical sky fairy because a book said some true things about how behavior works.

You're gullible, and a hypocrite, to boot.

You'd no sooner possess the capability to rationally justify your belief than a Pastafarian. Good luck with the angst and anxiety this causes you and manifests as sputtering mockery on the internet on a daily basis at christ crackerers.

lol ..... you keep telling me what you think that I believe and I keep telling you that you are wrong.

When I tell you what I do believe you try to ignore it and then deride a belief that I do not have.


looks like you are the one having a problem with angst and anxiety.

good luck with that yourself.

You've mis-comprehended again, HoeBilly.

Are you at a 1st grade reading level?

Your angst is prevalent, you've been mocking folks obsessively, on your ass, on the internet, for their magic beliefs because you're insecure of your own magic beliefs...it's apparent especially with your claim of a pure mind when you act like a gossippy, neenering little juvenile towards them. You have a lot of wood chips in your eyeballs, it seems like you stood in front of a stump grinder and opened wide.

5 years from now, you'll be of such peace of mind you'll still be talking about wafers.

Raise your paw, kook.

lol... you don't know where I am coming from, and you don't know where I am going. You don't have even the slightest inking about what I am doing now, so you have absolutely no idea about what I will or won't be doing tomorrow much less in five years...

I am not your ordinary run of the mill kook.


I am Hobelim, son of sky fairy, king of the kooks.

Your opinion of your self is irrelevant to that which is self evident.

You're an idiot on the internet that believes in a fairy and mocks folks for believing in fairies.

In that, I don't lump you in with the other kooks - I find the hypocrisy angle much worse. That changes from a mere misguided belief system, to being a bad person.

yes, you are right. If I was mocking the silly things other people do and I was wrong about what is right, I would be a hypocrite if what I thought was right wasn't....but it is...so I am not a hypocrite.

Just being neighborly lending a hand to people who have fallen into a pit by the billions. You just mock them.


Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

 

[hobelim]

lol ..... you keep telling me what you think that I believe and I keep telling you that you are wrong.

When I tell you what I do believe you try to ignore it and then deride a belief that I do not have.


looks like you are the one having a problem with angst and anxiety.

good luck with that yourself.

You've mis-comprehended again, HoeBilly.

Are you at a 1st grade reading level?

Your angst is prevalent, you've been mocking folks obsessively, on your ass, on the internet, for their magic beliefs because you're insecure of your own magic beliefs...it's apparent especially with your claim of a pure mind when you act like a gossippy, neenering little juvenile towards them. You have a lot of wood chips in your eyeballs, it seems like you stood in front of a stump grinder and opened wide.

5 years from now, you'll be of such peace of mind you'll still be talking about wafers.

Raise your paw, kook.

lol... you don't know where I am coming from, and you don't know where I am going. You don't have even the slightest inking about what I am doing now, so you have absolutely no idea about what I will or won't be doing tomorrow much less in five years...

I am not your ordinary run of the mill kook.


I am Hobelim, son of sky fairy, king of the kooks.

Your opinion of your self is irrelevant to that which is self evident.

You're an idiot on the internet that believes in a fairy and mocks folks for believing in fairies.

In that, I don't lump you in with the other kooks - I find the hypocrisy angle much worse. That changes from a mere misguided belief system, to being a bad person.

yes, you are right. If I was mocking the silly things other people do and I was wrong to tell them what is right, I would be a hypocrite if what I thought was right wasn't....but it is...


Thats the way the cookie crumbles.

You're a hypocrite because your basis for mocking them is because they engage in a metaphorical sacrament and meanwhile you engage in a metaphorical sacrament and they're both in honor of a being you could not possibly justify, rationally, and if you could you'd win a nobel prize but instead you only THINK you can - it's a blind spot in your reasoning, the same one that causes you to bicker about wafers on the internet and assume that's what a pure mind might do.

I see your ignorance is showing again. For thousands of years there was nothing metaphoric or symbolic about kosher law or celebrating the eucharist.

The flesh of swine in kosher law is literally about pork according to the teaching of the talmud, what Jesus called the traditions of men.

The eucharist becomes the Body of Christ in actuality according to the teaching of the roman catholic church.


dedicated believers of either faith vehemently deny any such metaphorical meaning and act like no one has ever said anything so ridiculous in recorded history, just like you.

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[hobelim]

You're positing that there's not different interpretations by different sects of Christianity,

no, you are wrong. Try again.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You say its all magical bullshit.

And you claim your particular, preferred pile of magical bullshit is the only magical bullshit that is not bullshit.

So, a rational person like me is left with two choices"

1) Shaman Hobelim holds the only, absolute divine truth, and everyone else is full of shit.

2) Shaman Hobelim is just as full of shit as eveyone else.

Its not a tough call.

 

[Likkmee]

Of course. If they follow the ten simple commandments( of only one human ever proved was do-able).A few others were close. Noah I suppose is a good example although he wasnt "perfect", he was pretty darn close as was Moses and a handful of others. Damn few.

 

[koshergrl]

You're positing that there's not different interpretations by different sects of Christianity,

no, you are wrong. Try again.

No, I tell the truth and YOU lie.

"dedicated believers of either faith vehemently deny any such metaphorical meaning"

-hobelim



While the same hobelim knows that right here on this board he's responding to christians' posts who adhere to a metaphorical-view on scripture. Ding, to name one, which made you a liar just right there.

Sorry, dude - you're a terrible, piss-poor reasoner...you're dishonest and last, you're a hypocrite. Raise that paw, kook!

Anti Christians are nuts. Straight up, criminal crapheads. They can't help it, that's the nature of humanity that lacks humanity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If they follow the ten simple commandments

So, rape,kidnapping, and slavery are cool. But don't covet your neighbors' livestock, because that would be evil!

 

[koshergrl]

If they follow the ten simple commandments

So, rape,kidnapping, and slavery are cool. But don't covet your neighbors' livestock, because that would be evil!

Non Christians maintain all those things are cool.
Christians, on the other hand, go to war to stop those things and believe that each man is equal in the eyes of God, no matter what his station, birth or past.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Non Christians maintain all those things are cool.

No they don't, you ******* idiot.

 

[BreezeWood]

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Can Atheists be Moral?


I have yet to receive a response from you or any christian, what sins they are unable to stop committing - and that the 1st century was an affirmation of the original religion of antiquity to triumph over evil for there even to be a judgement.

4th century christianity and the other two desert religions have abandoned the original religion to substitute their own that are political documents disguised as religions to suit their own self interest that falls far short of the path leading to admission to the Everlasting.

if there are sins christians are unable to not commit they can not be moral - for those that triumph over evil they can not be 4th century christians.

morality is a goal acquired through triumph - the apex of knowledge, purity of a freed spirit being a sabbath is the path to the Everlasting.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

Furthermore, at any point in time we can change states.

So save your bullshit for someone else.

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What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

christianity is the religion of sinners, (all bad) no matter their persona of repentance they will reap what they sow - the original religion of antiquity is the triumph of good vs evil that is granted judgement and possible admission to the Everlasting.

the Almighty is simply the gatekeeper ... that will keep the unjustified from entering where they do not belong.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

bing the dogmatic -

Columbus crossed the void and discovered land on the otherside, that is the mission for a spirit to be freed from the physical constraints through perseverance and knowledge to triumph by their own actions to be admitted to the Everlasting as a reward - it is a sin to remain a sinner, bing. making oneself pure is not - "no man or woman is all good or all bad" - have you fooled yourself or are you just lazy.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

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Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above forgery is a sin - the 4th century christian bible is a political document disguised as a religion - is a sin ...


It’s unavoidable.

excuses are sins, not answering what sins someone is unable to stop committing, when defining sin is a sin ... when speaking of a rapprochement with the Almighty while a sinner - is a sin.

the uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent by christianity - is a sin.

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It’s unavoidable -

a history lesson from a christian ...

The reason you can’t or won’t define what sin is is because it would detract from your attack on Christianity.

So let me be very clear here, sin is anything which distances one from God.

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The reason you can’t or won’t define what sin is is because it would detract from your attack on Christianity.

So let me be very clear here, sin is anything which distances one from God.

who will not answer the question is you, what sins are you unable not to commit. christian.

Excuses are not sins. Excuses are rationalizations for one’s failure to produce the desired result or objective.

that must be one of them.

Excuses prevent one from seeing reality and learning the lesson they were supposed to learn and dooms them to repeating the same mistakes. Excuses transfer ones power and control to external sources. But excuses in and of themselves are not sins.

you have that backwards.

But excuses in and of themselves are not sins.

in regards to the original spoken religion of antiquity they are ... your 10,000 page document is an inexcusable sin. less than attaining the apex of knowledge is not an excuse. by humanity to fail without final judgement - for their existence from the metaphysical they evolved from.

 

[ding]

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

Furthermore, at any point in time we can change states.

So save your bullshit for someone else.

.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

christianity is the religion of sinners, (all bad) no matter their persona of repentance they will reap what they sow - the original religion of antiquity is the triumph of good vs evil that is granted judgement and possible admission to the Everlasting.

the Almighty is simply the gatekeeper ... that will keep the unjustified from entering where they do not belong.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

bing the dogmatic -

Columbus crossed the void and discovered land on the otherside, that is the mission for a spirit to be freed from the physical constraints through perseverance and knowledge to triumph by their own actions to be admitted to the Everlasting as a reward - it is a sin to remain a sinner, bing. making oneself pure is not - "no man or woman is all good or all bad" - have you fooled yourself or are you just lazy.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

.

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above forgery is a sin - the 4th century christian bible is a political document disguised as a religion - is a sin ...


It’s unavoidable.

excuses are sins, not answering what sins someone is unable to stop committing, when defining sin is a sin ... when speaking of a rapprochement with the Almighty while a sinner - is a sin.

the uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent by christianity - is a sin.

View attachment 252823


It’s unavoidable -

a history lesson from a christian ...

The reason you can’t or won’t define what sin is is because it would detract from your attack on Christianity.

So let me be very clear here, sin is anything which distances one from God.

.

The reason you can’t or won’t define what sin is is because it would detract from your attack on Christianity.

So let me be very clear here, sin is anything which distances one from God.

who will not answer the question is you, what sins are you unable not to commit. christian.

Excuses are not sins. Excuses are rationalizations for one’s failure to produce the desired result or objective.

that must be one of them.

Excuses prevent one from seeing reality and learning the lesson they were supposed to learn and dooms them to repeating the same mistakes. Excuses transfer ones power and control to external sources. But excuses in and of themselves are not sins.

you have that backwards.

But excuses in and of themselves are not sins.

in regards to the original spoken religion of antiquity they are ... your 10,000 page document is an inexcusable sin. less than attaining the apex of knowledge is not an excuse. by humanity to fail without final judgement - for their existence from the metaphysical they evolved from.

What do you believe was the original spoken religion?