Can Atheists be Moral?

[hobelim]

pft.

It wasnt a surprise that you dont comprehend what you read, you DO believe in a magical fairy without an ability to rationally justify that so....koo-koo...koo-koo

Yeah I know, I'm koo koo, toys in the attic, crazy.

You confirm by beliefs over and over again. What other justification for my beliefs should I present to you if you can't see that??

Not to worry!

Other people can see.

You certainly confirm my belief, that you're a hypocrite that believes in the same sort of un-substantiated stuff that you mock christ crackerers for, and your lashing out irrationally afterward is a good sign that you don't like it when your feet are held to the same fire you hold theirs to.

Tough shit - all of your past mockery of them now applies to you.

irrational lashing out ?

lol

Indeed!

Your incoherent machinations about your unknown fairy god being that you know..that cares about you following kosher law in order to reveal itself... is no more rational or coherent than the believers in a literal christ or his essence being symbolically encapsulated in the sacrament.

You are a hypocritical kook, which is an order of magnitude above just a kook, kook.

well thats fine and all but its not what I said at all.

Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself, its about following kosher law in order to maintain the purity of mind, level of intelligence, and clarity of perception required to see what is actually there.

Everything a person experiences in life is filtered through the brain. If your brain is untidy it will not function as well as it could because it will not process information correctly. Something as simple as the infantile resentments you nurture and openly display will distort thoughts and conclusions and consequently everything you perceive just like the person who fails to routinely clean their computer from junk files, adware, malware, cookies, lol, etc., that accumulates through daily use ends up with a crippled machine..

Now that may seem kookie to you but I really don't mind.

 

[hobelim]

Yeah I know, I'm koo koo, toys in the attic, crazy.

You confirm by beliefs over and over again. What other justification for my beliefs should I present to you if you can't see that??

Not to worry!

Other people can see.

You certainly confirm my belief, that you're a hypocrite that believes in the same sort of un-substantiated stuff that you mock christ crackerers for, and your lashing out irrationally afterward is a good sign that you don't like it when your feet are held to the same fire you hold theirs to.

Tough shit - all of your past mockery of them now applies to you.

irrational lashing out ?

lol

Indeed!

Your incoherent machinations about your unknown fairy god being that you know..that cares about you following kosher law in order to reveal itself... is no more rational or coherent than the believers in a literal christ or his essence being symbolically encapsulated in the sacrament.

You are a hypocritical kook, which is an order of magnitude above just a kook, kook.

well thats fine and all but its not what I said at all.

Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself, its about following kosher law in order to maintain the purity of mind, level of intelligence, and clarity of perception required to see what is actually there.

Everything a person experiences in life is filtered through the brain. If your brain is untidy it will not function as well as it could because it will not process information correctly. Something as simple as the infantile resentments you openly display will distort thoughts and conclusions and consequently everything you perceive just like the person who fails to routinely clean their computer from junk files, malware etc., that accumulates through daily use ends up with a crippled machine..

Now that may seem kookie you but I really don't mind.

It's exactly what you said - you said "reveal himself to you," verb, so I did not misquote you you're merely un-careful with your words...

"reveal himself" (you actual verb was "make himself known to you) implies his decision to make an action...and you prefaced HIS revealing himself with one's following of kosher law. You can't even keep your own ******* bullshit straight - In order for "him to make himself known" he requires you follow woo-woo kosher law.

You are gullible.

As far as the "purity of mind," all you're doing is taking a common-sense knowledge that a sick brain doesn't function very well....and you're adding magic fairy woo-woo to it under the guise that "sick brains don't work so good is uber irrefutable logic bro!" and therefore it must be true that that's why people don't see your magic fairy.

You are, in fact, a worse kook than the christ crackerers...because you hide behind hypocrisy.

If it was such common sense logic why is it that every time I squeeze your head a foul and smelly pus comes oozing out?

A hidden subject in Kosher law is koo koo woo woo, common sense logic is koo koo woo woo??

Thats truly nutty pal. Whats the matter? Never took the time to clean out the garbage that has been festering in your addled mind? Can't you smell that smell??

lol...

See? There you go again, confirming what I believe to be true in actual reality.

 

[hobelim]

irrational lashing out ?

lol

Indeed!

Your incoherent machinations about your unknown fairy god being that you know..that cares about you following kosher law in order to reveal itself... is no more rational or coherent than the believers in a literal christ or his essence being symbolically encapsulated in the sacrament.

You are a hypocritical kook, which is an order of magnitude above just a kook, kook.

well thats fine and all but its not what I said at all.

Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself, its about following kosher law in order to maintain the purity of mind, level of intelligence, and clarity of perception required to see what is actually there.

Everything a person experiences in life is filtered through the brain. If your brain is untidy it will not function as well as it could because it will not process information correctly. Something as simple as the infantile resentments you openly display will distort thoughts and conclusions and consequently everything you perceive just like the person who fails to routinely clean their computer from junk files, malware etc., that accumulates through daily use ends up with a crippled machine..

Now that may seem kookie you but I really don't mind.

It's exactly what you said - you said "reveal himself to you," verb, so I did not misquote you you're merely un-careful with your words...

"reveal himself" (you actual verb was "make himself known to you) implies his decision to make an action...and you prefaced HIS revealing himself with one's following of kosher law. You can't even keep your own ******* bullshit straight - In order for "him to make himself known" he requires you follow woo-woo kosher law.

You are gullible.

As far as the "purity of mind," all you're doing is taking a common-sense knowledge that a sick brain doesn't function very well....and you're adding magic fairy woo-woo to it under the guise that "sick brains don't work so good is uber irrefutable logic bro!" and therefore it must be true that that's why people don't see your magic fairy.

You are, in fact, a worse kook than the christ crackerers...because you hide behind hypocrisy.

If it was such common sense logic why is it that every time I squeeze your head a foul and smelly pus comes oozing out? Never took the time to clean out the garbage that has been festering in your addled mind?

See? There you go again, proving what I believe to be true in actual reality.

Because your perception is skewed and you're really bad at reading comprehension.

That, and your self-aggrandized version of an impure mind is completely ridiculous.

If you mind was functioning properly, you'd be more rational. If your mind was functioning properly, you wouldn't contradict yourself so easily, within 2 posts, even.

"I hold a belief that conforms to reality about an unknown God whose existence has been confirmed by reality."

-Hobelim

"I wasn't suggesting that reality is evidence of anything other than reality"

-Hobelim



"Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself"

-Hobelim

"Purify your mind and be refined according to the detailed instruction in kosher law.

If you do, my unknown God will make himself known to you."

-Hobelim






No, as far as having a clear mind, you sound ill and should probably see a Doctor because there's no poster that seems more full of vile confusion in his brain than you do. You contradict yourself flawlessly, and only an addled brain can do that. You've been spoken to by me, your God, so say 3 hail marys and salami and bacon, goof.

ohhh...there's more...HAH

"If you want to stand in the presence of the living God to either see him from a distance or close enough to hear his words, you must do what I did."

-hobelim

"I didn't use a personal experience as evidence of anything."

-Hobelim




^addled mind.

^^^^ liar.

nutter. I never told you what the personal experience that justifies my belief was. You complained about it. remember?

The most that anyone could do for you is to tell you to apply you mind to understand the subject of kosher law and then do it.

If you did you would see God.

You have a problem with the suggesting that you should tend to the current addled condition of your own mind in order to better deal with actuality?

You enjoy being a numbskull?

Again, I really don't mind.

 

[hobelim]

well thats fine and all but its not what I said at all.

Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself, its about following kosher law in order to maintain the purity of mind, level of intelligence, and clarity of perception required to see what is actually there.

Everything a person experiences in life is filtered through the brain. If your brain is untidy it will not function as well as it could because it will not process information correctly. Something as simple as the infantile resentments you openly display will distort thoughts and conclusions and consequently everything you perceive just like the person who fails to routinely clean their computer from junk files, malware etc., that accumulates through daily use ends up with a crippled machine..

Now that may seem kookie you but I really don't mind.

It's exactly what you said - you said "reveal himself to you," verb, so I did not misquote you you're merely un-careful with your words...

"reveal himself" (you actual verb was "make himself known to you) implies his decision to make an action...and you prefaced HIS revealing himself with one's following of kosher law. You can't even keep your own ******* bullshit straight - In order for "him to make himself known" he requires you follow woo-woo kosher law.

You are gullible.

As far as the "purity of mind," all you're doing is taking a common-sense knowledge that a sick brain doesn't function very well....and you're adding magic fairy woo-woo to it under the guise that "sick brains don't work so good is uber irrefutable logic bro!" and therefore it must be true that that's why people don't see your magic fairy.

You are, in fact, a worse kook than the christ crackerers...because you hide behind hypocrisy.

If it was such common sense logic why is it that every time I squeeze your head a foul and smelly pus comes oozing out? Never took the time to clean out the garbage that has been festering in your addled mind?

See? There you go again, proving what I believe to be true in actual reality.

Because your perception is skewed and you're really bad at reading comprehension.

That, and your self-aggrandized version of an impure mind is completely ridiculous.

If you mind was functioning properly, you'd be more rational. If your mind was functioning properly, you wouldn't contradict yourself so easily, within 2 posts, even.

"I hold a belief that conforms to reality about an unknown God whose existence has been confirmed by reality."

-Hobelim

"I wasn't suggesting that reality is evidence of anything other than reality"

-Hobelim



"Its not about an invisible being that cares about me following kosher law in order to reveal itself"

-Hobelim

"Purify your mind and be refined according to the detailed instruction in kosher law.

If you do, my unknown God will make himself known to you."

-Hobelim






No, as far as having a clear mind, you sound ill and should probably see a Doctor because there's no poster that seems more full of vile confusion in his brain than you do. You contradict yourself flawlessly, and only an addled brain can do that. You've been spoken to by me, your God, so say 3 hail marys and salami and bacon, goof.

ohhh...there's more...HAH

"If you want to stand in the presence of the living God to either see him from a distance or close enough to hear his words, you must do what I did."

-hobelim

"I didn't use a personal experience as evidence of anything."

-Hobelim




^addled mind.

^^^^ liar.

nutter. I never told you what the personal experience that justifies my belief was. You complained about it. remember?

The most that anyone could do for you is to tell you to apply you mind to understand the subject of kosher law and then do it.

If you did you would see God.

You have a problem with the suggesting that you should tend to the current addled condition of your own mind in order to better deal with actuality?

You enjoy being a numbskull?

Now, here's another lash out, oh addled mind. ^

Like I said, I understand when a prideful character doesn't like their beliefs challenged.

Hobelim, you're not in any position to sit in judgement of anyone's mind. You lash out irrationally, hold irrational beliefs, contradict yourself, cannot make a coherent argument and arrogantly mock Christ Crackerers while you're more ridiculous than they are.

You go follow your derpy kosher law and imagine seeing your fairy as a result, dude - but thinking that you do is much better evidence of having an addled, ignorant cognitive function than someone who shoves your beliefs back up your ass where they came from Nutter

now you have degenerated into pure projection. sad.

I told you days ago that there is a hidden subject in kosher law. Flesh is a metaphor for teaching. Simple. Ever since then you have been contorting yourself into pathetic shapes in a vain attempt to dismiss my assertion.


Then today, you have the audacity to say that what you have spend days deriding as koo koo woo woo is common knowledge.

you are as full of shit as they come.

now take that and shove it up your ass.

 

[hobelim]

Imagine this claim -

A guy who thinks he has a "pure mind" because he is in accord with kosher Law has, as a result, heard and seen THEEEeeEE God - - -

And spends his time parking his ass on the internet to mock folks for believing in x, y, z - getting into psycho-babble and meaningless conflicts and arguments - calls names and shows spite - mocks and mocks and mocks the christ crackerers....sits in a position of mockery..

as opposed to - what, what would someone of pure mind who's seen God do with their time?

PrrrrrrRRrrrobably donate....ALL of it...literally ALL of it, to getting off your ass and doing more worthwhile things.


It's because of these reasons, and the fact that he contradicts himself and is hella-ripe with being a hypocrite, that one must conclude that Hobelim has a brain full of disgusting impurity, and is either delusional or doesn't believe the bullshit that he himself heaps.




I have my theory.

lol....I once told Taz. if you are going to be a dick I am just going to **** with you.

Capisce?

 

[hobelim]

Imagine this claim -

A guy who thinks he has a "pure mind" because he is in accord with kosher Law has, as a result, heard and seen THEEEeeEE God - - -

And spends his time parking his ass on the internet to mock folks for believing in x, y, z - getting into psycho-babble and meaningless conflicts and arguments - calls names and shows spite - mocks and mocks and mocks the christ crackerers....sits in a position of mockery..

as opposed to - what, what would someone of pure mind who's seen God do with their time?

PrrrrrrRRrrrobably donate....ALL of it...literally ALL of it, to getting off your ass and doing more worthwhile things.


It's because of these reasons, and the fact that he contradicts himself and is hella-ripe with being a hypocrite, that one must conclude that Hobelim has a brain full of disgusting impurity, and is either delusional or doesn't believe the bullshit that he himself heaps.




I have my theory.

lol....I once told Taz. if you are going to be a dick I am just going to **** with you.

Capisce?

It's not really that special, hoebilly...you're just incapable of comprehension and a rational argument and so you lash out.

Lash away - addled one .

lol....read your previous crybaby posts and then tell me who is lashing out and melting down...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Imagine this claim -

A guy who thinks he has a "pure mind" because he is in accord with kosher Law has, as a result, heard and seen THEEEeeEE God - - -

And spends his time parking his ass on the internet to mock folks for believing in x, y, z - getting into psycho-babble and meaningless conflicts and arguments - calls names and shows spite - mocks and mocks and mocks the christ crackerers....sits in a position of mockery..

as opposed to - what, what would someone of pure mind who's seen God do with their time?

PrrrrrrRRrrrobably donate....ALL of it...literally ALL of it, to getting off your ass and doing more worthwhile things.


It's because of these reasons, and the fact that he contradicts himself and is hella-ripe with being a hypocrite, that one must conclude that Hobelim has a brain full of disgusting impurity, and is either delusional or doesn't believe the bullshit that he himself heaps.




I have my theory.

lol....I once told Taz. if you are going to be a dick I am just going to **** with you.

Capisce?

It's not really that special, hoebilly...you're just incapable of comprehension and a rational argument and so you lash out.

Lash away - addled one .

read your previous post and then tell me who is lashing out and melting down...

It's just called medicine, HoeBilly. Your pure mind should have gleaned as much...but then, it would eliminate the necessity for said medicine if it were pure, innit?

One thing is certain...no matter how hard you try to understand the nonsensical piles Hobelim pinches off, he will tell you that you don't get it. You can literally repeat his own words back to him (without telling him you are doing so), and he will tell you that you are wrong and just too stupid to understand.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"So, is that ____ what you mean?"

Hobelim: "No."

"Okay, I'll try a different way. Is this what you mean: ______?"

Hobelim: "No."

"Hmm, okay. How about, this:_____?"

Hobelim: "Nope!"

"Well I guess that just leaves this:_____."

Hobelim: "Nope! You don't get it, because youre not even trying!"

"Actually, I tried four times. How about you just spell it out for me."

Hobelim: "I already did! "

"Uh, okay. Do it again, then."

Hobelim: "Nope! I am instead going to write 4 paragraphs prancing about, hollering that you just don't get it, because you are too stupid. Even though I could repeat my point in a simple sentence, if I wanted to. I just dont feeeel like it."

"You're not really saying anything at all, are you?"

Hobelim: "i'm saying the only thing that matters!"

"Are you just making all this up as you go?"

Hobelim: "I didnt make any of it up! It's all right there in the book, if you look at it just right!"

"But that is circular reasoning...'if I read it just the right way to arrive at a certain idea, then the book gives me the idea.'... You dont really know what you are going to say next at any given time, do you?"

Hobelim: "I knew you would say that."

 

[BreezeWood]

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Ive noticed it is you who has changed -

I remain steadfast, 4th century christianity, the desert religions are forgeries using the events of the 1st century (christianity) to disguise their political documents as religions as history bears witness.


changed by not reading posts for content -

will the physiology you / science create have a spiritual content - will it need nourishment to survive a means to reproduce, sensations etc. ... all questions answered by the metaphysical forces that did create the physiology that does exist in the universe.

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the transformation from one physiological state to another is accomplished by the cicadas spiritual content - through metaphysical means derived not by an individual but from the forces that created it - from the Everlasting. the Almighty will not allow sinners (desert religions) to interfere, they are doomed.

Bullshit.

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Bullshit.

Can Atheists be Moral?


I have yet to receive a response from you or any christian, what sins they are unable to stop committing - and that the 1st century was an affirmation of the original religion of antiquity to triumph over evil for there even to be a judgement.

4th century christianity and the other two desert religions have abandoned the original religion to substitute their own that are political documents disguised as religions to suit their own self interest that falls far short of the path leading to admission to the Everlasting.

if there are sins christians are unable to not commit they can not be moral - for those that triumph over evil they can not be 4th century christians.

morality is a goal acquired through triumph - the apex of knowledge, purity of a freed spirit being a sabbath is the path to the Everlasting.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

Furthermore, at any point in time we can change states.

So save your bullshit for someone else.

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What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

christianity is the religion of sinners, (all bad) no matter their persona of repentance they will reap what they sow - the original religion of antiquity is the triumph of good vs evil that is granted judgement and possible admission to the Everlasting.

the Almighty is simply the gatekeeper ... that will keep the unjustified from entering where they do not belong.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

bing the dogmatic -

Columbus crossed the void and discovered land on the otherside, that is the mission for a spirit to be freed from the physical constraints through perseverance and knowledge to triumph by their own actions to be admitted to the Everlasting as a reward - it is a sin to remain a sinner, bing. making oneself pure is not - "no man or woman is all good or all bad" - have you fooled yourself or are you just lazy.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

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Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above forgery is a sin - the 4th century christian bible is a political document disguised as a religion - is a sin ...


It’s unavoidable.

excuses are sins, not answering what sins someone is unable to stop committing, when defining sin is a sin ... when speaking of a rapprochement with the Almighty while a sinner - is a sin.

the uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent by christianity - is a sin.

It’s unavoidable -

a history lesson from a christian ...

 

[ding]

Bullshit.

.

Bullshit.

Can Atheists be Moral?


I have yet to receive a response from you or any christian, what sins they are unable to stop committing - and that the 1st century was an affirmation of the original religion of antiquity to triumph over evil for there even to be a judgement.

4th century christianity and the other two desert religions have abandoned the original religion to substitute their own that are political documents disguised as religions to suit their own self interest that falls far short of the path leading to admission to the Everlasting.

if there are sins christians are unable to not commit they can not be moral - for those that triumph over evil they can not be 4th century christians.

morality is a goal acquired through triumph - the apex of knowledge, purity of a freed spirit being a sabbath is the path to the Everlasting.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

Furthermore, at any point in time we can change states.

So save your bullshit for someone else.

.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

christianity is the religion of sinners, (all bad) no matter their persona of repentance they will reap what they sow - the original religion of antiquity is the triumph of good vs evil that is granted judgement and possible admission to the Everlasting.

the Almighty is simply the gatekeeper ... that will keep the unjustified from entering where they do not belong.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

bing the dogmatic -

Columbus crossed the void and discovered land on the otherside, that is the mission for a spirit to be freed from the physical constraints through perseverance and knowledge to triumph by their own actions to be admitted to the Everlasting as a reward - it is a sin to remain a sinner, bing. making oneself pure is not - "no man or woman is all good or all bad" - have you fooled yourself or are you just lazy.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

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Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above forgery is a sin - the 4th century christian bible is a political document disguised as a religion - is a sin ...


It’s unavoidable.

excuses are sins, not answering what sins someone is unable to stop committing, when defining sin is a sin ... when speaking of a rapprochement with the Almighty while a sinner - is a sin.

the uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent by christianity - is a sin.

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It’s unavoidable -

a history lesson from a christian ...

The reality is there is no doctrine of the Church that was not founded on the tradition and beliefs of early Christians.

The presence of Christ in the host, the assumption of Mary, that Mary was born without the stain of sin, that Mary never sinned, that Jesus was fully human and fully God. The list goes on and on.

But putting all that aside the practice of forgiveness, thankfulness, confession and sacrifice are inseparable sisters of our faith that naturally leads to success.

What is it that you have?

 

[ding]

Bullshit.

.

Bullshit.

Can Atheists be Moral?


I have yet to receive a response from you or any christian, what sins they are unable to stop committing - and that the 1st century was an affirmation of the original religion of antiquity to triumph over evil for there even to be a judgement.

4th century christianity and the other two desert religions have abandoned the original religion to substitute their own that are political documents disguised as religions to suit their own self interest that falls far short of the path leading to admission to the Everlasting.

if there are sins christians are unable to not commit they can not be moral - for those that triumph over evil they can not be 4th century christians.

morality is a goal acquired through triumph - the apex of knowledge, purity of a freed spirit being a sabbath is the path to the Everlasting.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

Furthermore, at any point in time we can change states.

So save your bullshit for someone else.

.

What is it that you think sin is exactly?

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

christianity is the religion of sinners, (all bad) no matter their persona of repentance they will reap what they sow - the original religion of antiquity is the triumph of good vs evil that is granted judgement and possible admission to the Everlasting.

the Almighty is simply the gatekeeper ... that will keep the unjustified from entering where they do not belong.

There are three possible states; we can be moving towards God, we can be moving away from God or we can be static.

bing the dogmatic -

Columbus crossed the void and discovered land on the otherside, that is the mission for a spirit to be freed from the physical constraints through perseverance and knowledge to triumph by their own actions to be admitted to the Everlasting as a reward - it is a sin to remain a sinner, bing. making oneself pure is not - "no man or woman is all good or all bad" - have you fooled yourself or are you just lazy.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

.

Sin is anything which distances us from God. Since no man or woman is all good or all bad, there will be times when they distance themselves from God. It’s unavoidable.

You never answered my question. How do you define sin?

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

the above forgery is a sin - the 4th century christian bible is a political document disguised as a religion - is a sin ...


It’s unavoidable.

excuses are sins, not answering what sins someone is unable to stop committing, when defining sin is a sin ... when speaking of a rapprochement with the Almighty while a sinner - is a sin.

the uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent by christianity - is a sin.

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It’s unavoidable -

a history lesson from a christian ...

No one is all good or all bad. To argue that Christianity is flawed because Christians are not all good is ridiculous.

I believe you have a log in your eye.