Can Atheists be Moral?

[ding]

And yet we do not see thermal equilibrium.

So you tell me why everything isn’t at the same temperature.

I don’t know. Stupid question. Irrelevant

The wonderful thing I learned last night watching that show is that I was right. The Big Bang is only the best way we can explain how our observable universe started. It’s based on what we know. But there’s so much we don’t know.

So for now scientists aren’t going with the multiverse as a scientific theory because we don’t have any evidence for other universe.

Actually, there is a place in our universe that scientists think might be where our universe and another have maybe collided with each other.

Point is, the Big Bang theory is just about as good as the flat earth theory. It may appear to be right but we don’t have enough knowledge to know for sure.

I have always known there must be more beyond our observable universe. And it’s ignorant to think this is all there is when space goes on in all directions infinitely. There is no end. Even beyond our observable universe.

So please don’t ask me why everything isn’t the same temperature. If it’s a serious question that scientists ponder, I’m sure they don’t know. And what does that have to do with anything? It’s just some stupid question you are stuck on. Must be locust of control

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

Following the laws of nature which existed before space and time.

 

[RWS]

I guess it's a question for everybody....

Would you rather be in a popular club with shady people, or be in an unpopular club with worthy people?

Think about your life choices before you answer.

You can spot the shady people by their behaviors. Maybe you should be the one thinking twice.

Hey ding I’m watching how the universe works. Did the Big Bang really happen? Scientists are actually questioning if the Big Bang really happened the way we think it happened.

Or is this Big Bang we refer to just the start of earths universe. Our observable universe.

It’s certainly not settled science.

Remember the tardigrade can’t see the sun or the moon. It’s observable universe is not all there is. There’s more. And I believe there’s more than our observable universe. Scientists are pondering this. Their coming up with reasons this might be plausible.

Still so much we don’t know.

And yet we do not see thermal equilibrium.

So you tell me why everything isn’t at the same temperature.

I don’t know. Stupid question. Irrelevant

The wonderful thing I learned last night watching that show is that I was right. The Big Bang is only the best way we can explain how our observable universe started. It’s based on what we know. But there’s so much we don’t know.

So for now scientists aren’t going with the multiverse as a scientific theory because we don’t have any evidence for other universe.

Actually, there is a place in our universe that scientists think might be where our universe and another have maybe collided with each other.

Point is, the Big Bang theory is just about as good as the flat earth theory. It may appear to be right but we don’t have enough knowledge to know for sure.

I have always known there must be more beyond our observable universe. And it’s ignorant to think this is all there is when space goes on in all directions infinitely. There is no end. Even beyond our observable universe.

So please don’t ask me why everything isn’t the same temperature. If it’s a serious question that scientists ponder, I’m sure they don’t know. And what does that have to do with anything? It’s just some stupid question you are stuck on. Must be locust of control

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

Scientific theories are based on math based on observations and continued study, and technology that continues to support the theory.

Religious theories were just.... made up, by humans seeking power and money.

Christian religions are no more right than religions that think the universe was created from an egg. Like .Pan Gu. It's just something, somebody just made up. And got followers and money streaming in, and power, etc...

 

[RWS]

And yet we do not see thermal equilibrium.

So you tell me why everything isn’t at the same temperature.

I don’t know. Stupid question. Irrelevant

The wonderful thing I learned last night watching that show is that I was right. The Big Bang is only the best way we can explain how our observable universe started. It’s based on what we know. But there’s so much we don’t know.

So for now scientists aren’t going with the multiverse as a scientific theory because we don’t have any evidence for other universe.

Actually, there is a place in our universe that scientists think might be where our universe and another have maybe collided with each other.

Point is, the Big Bang theory is just about as good as the flat earth theory. It may appear to be right but we don’t have enough knowledge to know for sure.

I have always known there must be more beyond our observable universe. And it’s ignorant to think this is all there is when space goes on in all directions infinitely. There is no end. Even beyond our observable universe.

So please don’t ask me why everything isn’t the same temperature. If it’s a serious question that scientists ponder, I’m sure they don’t know. And what does that have to do with anything? It’s just some stupid question you are stuck on. Must be locust of control

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

 

[RWS]

Three questions I think science will never answer are:
1. How did we get here (universe wise)?
2. What is our purpose?
3. What happens after we die?

Science could possibly answer question 1 eventually. But 2 and 3 are philosophical questions that science doesn't cover. Those are the domains of religions.

My dislike of religions is that it tells people that it's ok to dislike and even kill others that believe differently. Because they are the absolute religion. There's so many religions... that it's scary to think that what has happened in the past, can happen a billion-fold worse in the present or future.

I'd be cool if religions said we're all equal and deserve to live our regular lives. But they don't.

 

[grbb]

Morality is just part of a profit-seeking strategy

An immoral shop, something that charges too much, for example, will be left by customers

Societies tend to assign morality to ensure interests are appropriately aligned. For example, we do not think shops that charge too much as immoral. That's because customers can quickly go to another shop.

However, when shops that charge too much use deceptive marketing practice, like in Sim Lim square, we consider that immoral.

So someone, namely us, has to assign morality out of our interests or perceived interests of ourselves.

Countries are like shops. Countries with scammers will make a bad name for itself. So states have incentives to capture scammers. Often, the link isn't that tough or transparent, so the motivation is low. When that happens states often protect scammers.

 

[ding]

You can spot the shady people by their behaviors. Maybe you should be the one thinking twice.

Hey ding I’m watching how the universe works. Did the Big Bang really happen? Scientists are actually questioning if the Big Bang really happened the way we think it happened.

Or is this Big Bang we refer to just the start of earths universe. Our observable universe.

It’s certainly not settled science.

Remember the tardigrade can’t see the sun or the moon. It’s observable universe is not all there is. There’s more. And I believe there’s more than our observable universe. Scientists are pondering this. Their coming up with reasons this might be plausible.

Still so much we don’t know.

And yet we do not see thermal equilibrium.

So you tell me why everything isn’t at the same temperature.

I don’t know. Stupid question. Irrelevant

The wonderful thing I learned last night watching that show is that I was right. The Big Bang is only the best way we can explain how our observable universe started. It’s based on what we know. But there’s so much we don’t know.

So for now scientists aren’t going with the multiverse as a scientific theory because we don’t have any evidence for other universe.

Actually, there is a place in our universe that scientists think might be where our universe and another have maybe collided with each other.

Point is, the Big Bang theory is just about as good as the flat earth theory. It may appear to be right but we don’t have enough knowledge to know for sure.

I have always known there must be more beyond our observable universe. And it’s ignorant to think this is all there is when space goes on in all directions infinitely. There is no end. Even beyond our observable universe.

So please don’t ask me why everything isn’t the same temperature. If it’s a serious question that scientists ponder, I’m sure they don’t know. And what does that have to do with anything? It’s just some stupid question you are stuck on. Must be locust of control

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

Scientific theories are based on math based on observations and continued study, and technology that continues to support the theory.

Religious theories were just.... made up, by humans seeking power and money.

Christian religions are no more right than religions that think the universe was created from an egg. Like .Pan Gu. It's just something, somebody just made up. And got followers and money streaming in, and power, etc...

Science is the study of nature to discover the order within nature so as to make predictions of nature.

There are many different tools available to study nature. Use of proxies being one of them. Often times science makes indirect observations of a phenomenon to confirm or deny the phenomenon; Special relativity being a good example. You can’t directly measure special relativity like you can measure the weight of something.

Discovering the evidence for the existence of a creator is no different. But you can use science to examine the indirect evidence of a creator.

 

[ding]

Three questions I think science will never answer are:
1. How did we get here (universe wise)?
2. What is our purpose?
3. What happens after we die?

Science could possibly answer question 1 eventually. But 2 and 3 are philosophical questions that science doesn't cover. Those are the domains of religions.

My dislike of religions is that it tells people that it's ok to dislike and even kill others that believe differently. Because they are the absolute religion. There's so many religions... that it's scary to think that what has happened in the past, can happen a billion-fold worse in the present or future.

I'd be cool if religions said we're all equal and deserve to live our regular lives. But they don't.

Our purpose is to evolve. To become the best version of ourselves that we can become and to transfer that knowledge to future generations.

 

[ding]

Three questions I think science will never answer are:
1. How did we get here (universe wise)?
2. What is our purpose?
3. What happens after we die?

Science could possibly answer question 1 eventually. But 2 and 3 are philosophical questions that science doesn't cover. Those are the domains of religions.

My dislike of religions is that it tells people that it's ok to dislike and even kill others that believe differently. Because they are the absolute religion. There's so many religions... that it's scary to think that what has happened in the past, can happen a billion-fold worse in the present or future.

I'd be cool if religions said we're all equal and deserve to live our regular lives. But they don't.

No one knows their fate. Materialists believe that at death it’s game over. Spiritualists believe that the material world was created by spirit and that at death our spirit returns to the creator.

So if you are a materialist there is no good reason you shouldn’t live your life seeking as much earthly pleasure as you can even if it is at the expense of others.

Of course I doubt you will find much happiness in doing so because we were created for more. Deep down inside you know this. That’s why you are here arguing about it.

 

[ding]

I don’t know. Stupid question. Irrelevant

The wonderful thing I learned last night watching that show is that I was right. The Big Bang is only the best way we can explain how our observable universe started. It’s based on what we know. But there’s so much we don’t know.

So for now scientists aren’t going with the multiverse as a scientific theory because we don’t have any evidence for other universe.

Actually, there is a place in our universe that scientists think might be where our universe and another have maybe collided with each other.

Point is, the Big Bang theory is just about as good as the flat earth theory. It may appear to be right but we don’t have enough knowledge to know for sure.

I have always known there must be more beyond our observable universe. And it’s ignorant to think this is all there is when space goes on in all directions infinitely. There is no end. Even beyond our observable universe.

So please don’t ask me why everything isn’t the same temperature. If it’s a serious question that scientists ponder, I’m sure they don’t know. And what does that have to do with anything? It’s just some stupid question you are stuck on. Must be locust of control

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

 

[sealybobo]

Three questions I think science will never answer are:
1. How did we get here (universe wise)?
2. What is our purpose?
3. What happens after we die?

Science could possibly answer question 1 eventually. But 2 and 3 are philosophical questions that science doesn't cover. Those are the domains of religions.

My dislike of religions is that it tells people that it's ok to dislike and even kill others that believe differently. Because they are the absolute religion. There's so many religions... that it's scary to think that what has happened in the past, can happen a billion-fold worse in the present or future.

I'd be cool if religions said we're all equal and deserve to live our regular lives. But they don't.

I think we know the answer to #2. Fairly obvious. To live as long as possible. Same purpose fish have.

 

[sealybobo]

It’s a question whose answer tells us the universe had a beginning. So it is a serious question and it is relevant.

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

 

[grbb]

The purpose of life is to reproduce.

Morality is a strategy.

Stores charge a fair price, so customers don't live. Governments ensure fraud is not around, so politicians get votes.

When these things don't happen people abuse their power.

True morality doesn't exist.

Imagine living in front of CCTV and be honest all the time.

Imagine if one day, that CCTV is gone.

If "true morality" exist, we would expect people to be still honest.

To a certain extent, it's true. People follow their habit.

However, after a while, people will see another steal and get away with it. Then it becomes the norm. Then everybody steals.

That's why politicians without check and balances are very corrupt.

They're just selfish. Not moral. We all are.

Religions don't change that by much.

 

[ding]

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

I think it has more to do with you than it does him. But given what I know from what I have observed, he cares about us.

Do you care about your dog?

 

[ding]

The observable universe did have a beginning. But what was before? And is our universe the only one?

Yesterday they were explaining how something can come from nothing and how nothing isn’t really nothing. There’s stuff in dark space. The air between you and your screen. There’s stuff in that “nothing”

Seriously, you people who talk about this kind of science but you don’t watch how the universe works, need to tune in.

You need to see a lot of your questions are answered, a lot of what you think is wrong, or might be wrong. And you hear what the scientific community knows and doesn’t know.

It’s how I know your confidence in your theories is coming from ignorance.

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

 

[sealybobo]

It was nothing before. It literally popped into existence 14 billion years ago.

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

 

[ding]

How did it happen?

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

But I am a Christian.

 

[sealybobo]

We don't truly know. We have to investigate, and that's what science does. We just don't jump into a religion because we're born into it and deny the logic that science is continuing to show.

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

But I am a Christian.

You are a typical Christian yes but I don’t think your beliefs align with any denomination I’ve ever seen

 

[ding]

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

But I am a Christian.

You are a typical Christian yes but I don’t think your beliefs align with any denomination I’ve ever seen

Probably because you were a worse Catholic than I was.

 

[ding]

You don’t have to believe in a religion to believe in a creator.

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

But I am a Christian.

You are a typical Christian yes but I don’t think your beliefs align with any denomination I’ve ever seen

If you had learned anything as a Catholic you would have learned the thing that matters most is to have a relationship with the father, son and Holy Ghost. It’s the sign of the cross for crying out loud.

He will take care of the rest.

 

[sealybobo]

Yea but is that enough? Most religions say you'll go to hell if you don't believe their religion.

And I say it doesn't matter if you believe. Who cares if you believe in a creator. You think a creator cares?

And it doesn't matter what you think. Cavemen thunk the same thing. What do you know? Nothing. You hope and wish.

If you believed there is a higher power that cares about you, that’s more than enough.

Then stop calling yourself a Christian. That’s not what they believe

But I am a Christian.

You are a typical Christian yes but I don’t think your beliefs align with any denomination I’ve ever seen

If you had learned anything as a Catholic you would have learned the thing that matters most is to have a relationship with the father, son and Holy Ghost. It’s the sign of the cross for crying out loud.

He will take care of the rest.

First, I was Greek Orthodox. Second, I know my parents have their problems with the church and my mom was open to the idea there is no god.

My mom always talked about screw the church have your own personal relationship with god.

They were/are typical Christians too.