Calling out Mac1958

[TNHarley]

Nope. Never said that. Never have I asked people to start a thread so that we could "debate". Not once. Never. Ever.

I said "discussion" you fucking childish liar

 

[TNHarley]

Ol mac just cant win one
I understand his desperation though. I mean, just look at this thread. Dude took a BEATING

 

[TNHarley]

Ol mac just cant win one
I understand his desperation though. I mean, just look at this thread. Dude took a BEATING

If we were in the UK, I would probably be getting arrested right about now

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

180+ posts, and I'm asked what, three or four questions on actual issues.

Everything else is bitching, personal attacks and insults.

And this is why I don't bother here.

Yeah. Typical.

This was you on the Trump SCOTUS pick question:

 

[BlackSand]

I have had several Trumpsters call me a "commie" and any number of other left-wing type things.

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I'll never call you a commie or accuse you of left-wing bullshit ...
You just suck, get lost in your own reasoning, fail miserably at convincing anyone other than yourself, and your whine never changes ...

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[MinTrut]

I said "discussion" you fucking childish liar

Okay.

This pains me, as you seem like a cool guy & Mac's insufferable. but...

You call him out to debate you (your word) in the OP.

You then just did again in your post #188:

"The thread was a callout for a debate, you narcissistic dumbfuck."

You also use the word debate in at least one other post.

And this double-pains me, but Mac's also right in that he never asked to debate - he's given that up in favor of trolling.

His offer - which he's made to me as well - was/is to create a discussion around his alleged leftness.

And this is where his dooshbaggery has a special place in my heart, because he's correct, and this is a HUGE pet peeve of mine with conservatives as well.

Liberals are NOT the left, and Mac is a liberal.

He's not left, a communist, a socialist, a Maoist or a Marxist.

He's a liberal.

Liberals are basically short-bus conservatives.

Conservatives in pussy hats & wearing BLM shirts that are 3 sizes too small.

Conservatives who love to misinterpret the Constitution, and find reasons to deny the ACTUAL left, and the far right as well (to Mac and most liberals, the ENTIRE right is the far right) their basic constitutional rights.

Liberals are conservatives who HATE that they're conservative, so constantly look for petty, superficial distinctions to deny their conservativeness, and attack their fellow (non-short bus) conservatives as cultish, irrational racists, thus mostly describing themselves in the process.

So if you HAD taken Mac up on discussing - not debating - most of the stuff on that list he posted almost immediately at the beginning of the thread, you would have discovered that he is, in fact, a conservative, albeit one dropped on his head at a very young age.

I hope this is helpful.

 

[BlackSand]

Okay.

This pains me, as you seem like a cool guy & Mac's insufferable. but...

You call him out to debate you (your word) in the OP.

You then just did again in your post #188:

"The thread was a callout for a debate, you narcissistic dumbfuck."

You also use the word debate in at least one other post.

And this double-pains me, but Mac's also right in that he never asked to debate - he's given that up in favor of trolling.

His offer - which he's made to me as well - was/is to create a discussion around his alleged leftness.

And this is where his dooshbaggery has a special place in my heart, because he's correct, and this is a HUGE pet peeve of mine with conservatives as well.

Liberals are NOT the left, and Mac is a liberal.

He's not left, a communist, a socialist, a Maoist or a Marxist.

He's a liberal.

Liberals are basically short-bus conservatives.

Conservatives in pussy hats & wearing BLM shirts that are 3 sizes too small.

Conservatives who love to misinterpret the Constitution, and find reasons to deny the ACTUAL left, and the far right as well (to Mac and most liberals, the ENTIRE right is the far right) their basic constitutional rights.

Liberals are conservatives who HATE that they're conservative, so constantly look for petty, superficial distinctions to deny their conservativeness, and attack their fellow (non-short bus) conservatives as cultish, irrational racists, thus mostly describing themselves in the process.

So if you HAD taken Mac up on discussing - not debating - most of the stuff on that list he posted almost immediately at the beginning of the thread, you would have discovered that he is, in fact, a conservative, albeit one dropped on his head at a very young age.

I hope this is helpful.

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Mac is Moderate ... Seeks compromise and has faith in the Establishment (Federal Government) the best I can ascertain.
He's not necessarily a lefty or a righty, but his solutions require a compromise between the two and with the intention of handing the Establishment power.

That's still not Liberal, unless you want to suggest that the Establishment is Liberal.
As a Classical Liberal (not to be confused with a Libertarian) ... I don't think there is anything Liberal about the Establishment.

A Modern Conservative should not be confused with a Conservative, because Modern Conservatives still want to grant the Federal Government
powers in order to achieve their specific goals ... Using the leverage acquired through the opinions of others outside of their more local districts.

It's open for debate though if Mac or anyone else wants to give it a shot.
Thanks for your input.

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[MinTrut]

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Mac is Moderate ... Seeks compromise and has faith in the Establishment (Federal Government) the best I can ascertain.
He's not necessarily a lefty or a righty, but his solutions require a compromise between the two and with the intention of handing the Establishment power.

That's still not Liberal, unless you want to suggest that the Establishment is Liberal.
As a Classical Liberal (not to be confused with a Libertarian) ... I don't think there is anything Liberal about the Establishment.

A Modern Conservative should not be confused with a Conservative, because Modern Conservatives still want to grant the Federal Government
powers in order to achieve their specific goals ... Using the leverage acquired through the opinions of others outside of their more local districts.

It's open for debate though if Mac or anyone else wants to give it a shot.
Thanks for your input.

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Some good distinctions, though so-called moderates are conservative as well, seeking to find a middle ground between conservative conservatives and liberal conservatives.

Basically, we're just an INCREDIBLY conservative country.

As to Mac, he seems to want to condemn and troll the actual left and most (if not all) of the right as the far right, seeking attention wherever and however he can.

But he does correctly point out how utterly fucked up our political system is, and seems genuine in his desire for an alternative.

No doosh so baggy!

 

[BlackSand]

Some good distinctions, though so-called moderates are conservative as well, seeking to find a middle ground between conservative conservatives and liberal conservatives.

Basically, we're just an INCREDIBLY conservative country.

As to Mac, he seems to want to condemn and troll the actual left and most (if not all) of the right as the far right, seeking attention wherever and however he can.

But he does correctly point out how utterly fucked up our political system is, and seems genuine in his desire for an alternative.

No doosh so baggy!

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The only way to diminish the influence our screwed up political system has ... Is to effectively limit the power we grant them.

That doesn't mean you need to find a better way the Federal Government can build a mousetrap ...
It means you stop asking the Federal Government to build you one ...

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Nope. Never said that. Never have I asked people to start a thread so that we could "debate". Not once. Never. Ever.

You incredible lying sack of aardvark shit.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Yes you and dumb Don have much in common.

They both unjustly think highly of themselves....to a nauseating degree.

 

[The Duke]

I've made the same offer about 50 times now: If you think I'm a left wing Nazi commie -- and I get that pretty much every day here -- just go over the individual issues (I don't care which ones) and let's find out. No one ever wants to take me up on that. In reality, I disagree with both whacked out ends of the spectrum on most issues:

• Immigration
• Health Care
• Trade
• Unions
• Abortion
• Race
• Capitalism
• Regulation
• Taxation
• Green Energy/Climate Change
• Whatever else

Regarding "debate", or what passes for "debate" here, no thanks. Waste of time.

I do think I take up a bit too much space in many minds here.

^Instant nut up in 2nd post. I declare the challenger the winner!

 

[Mac-7]

Nope. Never said that. Never have I asked people to start a thread so that we could "debate". Not once. Never. Ever.

Just for clarification, not that it will matter: I have had several Trumpsters call me a "commie" and any number of other left-wing type things. I've invited them all to start a thread, challenge me on the issues, and PROVE that I'm a left winger by my answers. None have. It's never been about "debate".

So, you're lying. You're a liar. And a child. But I already knew that.

But I appreciate all the desperate leg humping!
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Biden is a far leftwinger and mac1958 voted for him

Judge mac1958 by his actions rather his words

 

[MinTrut]

I'm afraid that it's Mac (vomit) who's won.

Narcissistic troll that he is, he's never said he wanted to debate, and when he immediately offered the OP the chance to discuss his standard list of issues to demonstrate that he isn't a commie/socialist/Maoist/Marxist/leftie, the OP never took him up on it.

So like a broken clock, Mac has been right twice today:

Once when he said he never offered to debate, and again when he offered to discuss, but wasn't taken up on that by the OP.

Revolting I know, but that's the way it is.

 

[MinTrut]

Biden is a far leftwinger and mac1958 voted for him

Judge mac1958 by his actions rather his words

Biden's not remotely left - he's a liberal.

As Biden himself said in a rare honest moment:

"I'm not a socialist; I beat [actually, cheated] the socialist [actually social democrat Sanders]."

 

[Mac-7]

Biden's not remotely left - he's a liberal.

As Biden himself said in a rare honest moment:

"I'm not a socialist; I beat [actually, cheated] the socialist [Sanders]."

Judge biden by his actions also

Which puts him pretty far left even if he’s not as bad as sanders or AOC

 

[MinTrut]

Judge biden by his actions also

Which puts him pretty far left even if he’s not as bad as sanders or AOC

Crony capitalist Biden despises the left, and is despised by the left.

The throats of socialist voters were slashed by Democrats in swing states in 2020, and that's the primary reason he was elected.

He's a criminal capitalist and corrupt warmongering corporatist - he's basically Obama plus dementia.

 

[gipper]

Biden is a far leftwinger and mac1958 voted for him

Judge mac1958 by his actions rather his words

No. Biden is a right winger. Always has been. His 50 year career should inform you, but it doesn’t.

 

[Mac-7]

No. Biden is a right winger. Always has been. His 50 year career should inform you, but it doesn’t.

Biden is head of the leftwing democrat party enacting policy that the leftwing wants

Yet you prefer to label him as a rightwinger instead

That just wont fly

 

[Mac1958]

You incredible lying sack of aardvark shit.

I won't hold my breath asking for examples.