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They aren't. Blacks fought in the Civil War and then got Jim Crow put on them by whites.How is the cost in lives and treasure of the Civil War counted into these figures?
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They aren't. Blacks fought in the Civil War and then got Jim Crow put on them by whites.How is the cost in lives and treasure of the Civil War counted into these figures?
Do you fully recognize the foolishness from which you speak?That's one of the things I'm wondering is a consideration, yes.
I often wonder if the ends of the spectrum fully examine the ramifications of their ideas.
In response to several of your points above, this is occurring NOW and is a part of the societal racial discrimination that was LAWFULLY carried out by whites against Black people and has been in place for centuries.Actually, the conditions the Chinese Coolie laborers suffered were barely above slavery.
1) Because the people getting the reparations weren't the ones who suffered. Those people are all dead.
2) Because we've already chucked 22 TRILLION into the ghettos since 1964, and that hasn't made things better
3) Why should I have to pay reparations? I've never owned a slave, never made anyone ride on the back of the bus, and never denied anyone a job.
Incorrect. I was born during Jim Crow and my parents were affected by it. My father was denied the GI bill after he came home from WW2 and that affected the opportunities he had which inevitably affected his ability to earn a decent income or get the same benefits returning white soldiers got. .
No. Whites have benefitted most from AA, so nothing has been tilted. AA didn't tilt anything to begin with. AA was an attempt to end a tilted system. Whites like you are so ignorant that you can't comprehend how much things have been titlted for whites.
The problem with debating people like you is that you make comments based on beliefs that are fact free. Reservations are slums also. But the thing I will say is that if you really want to debate this, drop the use of the same silly lines and go study reparations in America so you understand that blacks are not the only ones to ever ask for reparations and if you want to continue arguing the same stupid argument you will find that reparations have been paid to descendants of the people who experienced the original wrong
Oh. Good. We've dumped 22 Trillion into the ghettos since the Great Society with very little result, but then we have that covered.The amount starts at an estimated 15 trillion.
Yes, they did. What you leave out is the short period when Freedmen, Scallywags and Carpetbaggers really stuck it to White Southerners during Reconstruction, and Jim Crow was the reaction to it. Kind of how the punitive post-World War 1 measures against Germany gave the world Hitler.They aren't. Blacks fought in the Civil War and then got Jim Crow put on them by whites.
Do you fully recognize the foolishness from which you speak?
What are the ramifications of a system that excluded blacks for all but the last 59 years which is why whites have 15 times the wealth of blacks, 13 times the wealth of Hispanics, and if you take out Indians, at least 15 times that of Asians, and more than 20 times more than Native Americans?
Wow... that is like the perfect burn for Mac... I may steal that.How does this get solved Mr, "I can't take a position but I can decide that I am holier than thou because I stand for nothing?" Do we pretend this is not the case, play colorblind and all this will just disappear?
The ramifications should be the end of economic inequality. But if whites get stupid and start violence, then we'll just have to go to the government again. That's the ramifications of this. If whites want this to end, they do nothing and let us build. This ain't the 1860's. Blacks will be armed and any white racist or groups of white racists who want to misbehave will be dealt with.
JoeB,
Barely above slavery is not slavery. And for the record, if Chinese Americans demanded reparations, I would support them. Second, 22 trillion dollars have not gone to the ghettos and all blacks don't live in cities. I am one of them.
If 22 trillion has been spent on welfare you best start understanding that most of it went to poor whites not only in cities but in rural areas.
Last, stop acting like you will be paying reparations. The case is against the government and the government has paid others for stuff you didn't do. I'm tired of whites using this stupid argument.
In response to several of your points above, this is occurring NOW and is a part of the societal racial discrimination that was LAWFULLY carried out by whites against Black people and has been in place for centuries.
Also, I would appreciate it very much if you would stop equating poverty and/or ghetto life to Black people in general. Also please cite your source so I can see where you're obtaining your erroneous information.:
Bill would create first-in-the-nation fund to address legacy of racist covenants
Reparations are perfectly appropriate and warranted the consequence of enslavement alone.San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts" are as follows:
Jim Crow, black codes, segregation….They aren't. Blacks fought in the Civil War and then got Jim Crow put on them by whites.
No, we can't say that. White Women owned slaves and participated in Jim Crow. White womens lies got black men killed or wrongly imprisoned. Many white women married their oppressors and lived on their earnings. Furthermore, white women are given reparations by law. It's called alimony. Racst white women exist today and post in this forum. Now stop pretending that blacks are the only ones who have ever asked for reparations.All we can possibly say about all this is that, if we accept the reasoning for giving money to groups that suffered institutional discrimination, the first in line is women.
Again, the precedent has been set. And identifiable losses are shown by the racial wealth gap..Reparations do nothing to repair Social Injustice
Why do todays blacks deserve reparations if their children and grandchildren do not?
I have no problem with paying reparations to those who have identifiable losses like Jews who had personal wealth confiscated or residents of Tulsa who had personal property confiscated
I don't know if you know this or not but the rioters robbed the black banks and although I believe this happened before the FDIC guarantees, the insurance company refused to pay a single claim of the Black business owners.Reparations do nothing to repair Social Injustice
Why do todays blacks deserve reparations if their children and grandchildren do not?
I have no problem with paying reparations to those who have identifiable losses like Jews who had personal wealth confiscated or residents of Tulsa who had personal property confiscated
Did the reparations paid to Japanese Americans do anything to repair Social Injustice? Why or why not?Reparations do nothing to repair Social Injustice
Why do todays blacks deserve reparations if their children and grandchildren do not?
I have no problem with paying reparations to those who have identifiable losses like Jews who had personal wealth confiscated or residents of Tulsa who had personal property confiscated
No, we can't say that. White Women owned slaves and participated in Jim Crow. White womens lies got black men killed or wrongly imprisoned. Many white women married their oppressors and lived on their earnings. Furthermore, white women are given reparations by law. It's called alimony. Racst white women exist today and post in this forum. Now stop pretending that blacks are the only ones who have ever asked for reparations.
Again, the precedent has been set. And identifiable losses are shown by the racial wealth gap..
Reparations do everything to repair economic injustice and economic injustice has remained a problem..