Old Rocks
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By 2030, no one that has a future in trucking will be using diesel powered trucks;
Until you can charge a battery as fast as you fill a fuel tank, this is nothing more than a pipe dream.
I don't know how feasible that is... But hell... This mother fucker lands rockets ... Something that likely should have been happening for decades. So..............
He's PT Barnum reincarnated and you've just seen his famous sideshow.. Here's the deal --
Go look any total EV manual and find out the charging times versus VOLTAGE/POWER ratings that you have available.. It takes 4 times as long to charge on 110V/20 Amps as it does on 220/40 amps..
At SOME POINT -- as you supply more power -- the battery melts.. But until you hit that POINT -- you're just losing LIFETIME on the batteries by pushing more juice in less time..
So he can DO IT ONCE and write off the battery loss.. But try doing that at truck stop with 220V/80Amp plugs and 22 trucks in the bay.. That should be a HARD HAT ONLY area !!! LOL... And maybe a racing fire suit...
I could get all woke on this.
Don’t the batteries need lithium, or whatever it’s called?
Mined by children in dirt poor parts of Africa.
Good lord. What you are talking about is cobalt. And it is only used in very small amounts in Tesla's new batteries. Tesla has a two sources of lithium, ample for it future purposes, here in the US. A lithium clay on the Nevada, Oregon border, and spodumene in the Peidmont area of the East Coast. They are conducting talks with the Indonesian government concerning a huge nickel mine there. Really fellow, before you post on something, you should do someting to repair your abysmal ignorance on the subject.
Well I would say ignorance abounds then if you think these government subsidized vehicles will be affordable in 5 years.....only for the elitist Dems.
I would say your ignorance can be rated as abysmal; Here are two electrics, neither of them Tesla's, that are well within the budget of most. They are urban vehicles, and the larger one competes head on in price with the base Tesla 3, which puts it at considerable disadvantage.
You bring a link of non Tesla shoeboxes and call me ignorant? Nobody is going to buy these stupid vehicles other than you elitist libbers.
LOL Damn, I see those little shoebox Smart Cars all the time. So there is a market for a small urban vehicle. And the average price for new cars in the US is over $36,000, and you can get a base Tesla 3 for $35,000. Yes, you are very ignorant.
Sure, as I said, with you mindless libbers there is always a market for goofy things.
So, you believe it is non-goofy to drive a 3 ton pickup with a huge diesel engine in it to the store for a loaf of bread. OK, LOL
No not at all....you buy the vehicle that best suits your needs. Likewise I think its stupid to drive around in little electric toy cars, but since you see them in urban locations all the time I assume they must be good for fast getaways.
Neither the S, X, nor the 3 are little as compared to the cars they compete with. And they are far better constructed.
And, contrary to claims, they only achieve around 75% of the claimed range under normal driving conditions.
Really? But again, so what? How far do most people in an urban area have to drive to get groceries?
The point being if you are a normal person an EV won't work for you. If you live and work within 20 minutes of downtown then an EV is fine. And it can be your one and only car.
However, if you live a long way from town, as I do, and the majority of people, then an EV only works as a 2nd vehicle. Most people don't want to spend that much money on a limited use vehicle though.
There are much better choices.
LOL Most rigs get only about 400 miles per tank. Many get far less. The S and X get that right now, and that range will be extended with the new 4680 batteries. The Cyber truck is slated to get 500 miles range, and maybe over 600 with the new batteries. And the top end cybertruck price is comparable to that of the top end Ford F-150. And it is far more powerful, with more utilitarian features standard. And they don't rust.