Britain's Green Energy Fails!!!!

[idb]

You tell me.
It's the greens that think nuclear is worse than CO2.

Not all greens.
Some like nuclear energy...they see it as a low emission option to counter climate change.

Greens for nuclear energy | A Green Party Nuclear Power Policy fit for the 21st Century

www.greensfornuclear.energy

 

[idb]

Green stupidity resulting in much more expensive power. Why wouldn't I LOL?

How did a cable failing result from green stupidity?

 

[elektra]

Is the power on?

It looks like the power is back on for most of those effected.

 

[elektra]

Why do they need to import so much nuclear electricity from France?

Because Green Energy is failing. Technically because the wind did not blow!

Behind the Jolt in Power Prices

As with lumber and other supply shortages, we think spiking electricity prices are outside monetary policymakers’ purview—and likely overstated as an economic risk.

www.fisherinvestments.com

European wind power output was already tepid this year entering last week, when the wind stopped blowing in the North Sea. Wind-based electricity generation tumbled. Much of Europe took a hit, but the UK bore the brunt because its imported electricity comes via undersea cables from France. UK prices were already significantly higher than Continental prices when one of those cables caught fire Wednesday, which the National Grid estimates will put it out of commission for half a year. Filling the shortfall are the country’s four remaining coal-fired plants.[viii] Ultimately, however, we think the real solution will likely be for the wind to start blowing again.

 

[idb]

It looks like the power is back on for most of those effected.

Great, so the backup systems worked as they should.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How did a cable failing result from green stupidity?

Would they need to import so much from France if they were still using their coal plants, instead
of more expensive, less reliable wind power?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Great, so the backup systems worked as they should.

Worked like a motherfucker!!!

 

[idb]

Because Green Energy is failing. Technically because the wind did not blow!

Behind the Jolt in Power Prices

As with lumber and other supply shortages, we think spiking electricity prices are outside monetary policymakers’ purview—and likely overstated as an economic risk.

www.fisherinvestments.com

No it isn't, it supplied 40% of UK power last year...pretty substantial I'd say.
When it couldn't the backup options that were prudently engineered into the system kicked in.
When hydro dams run low through drought do you say that hydro is failing?
What about when the gas plants failed in Texas this year...do you say that gas failed?

 

[Old Rocks]

You tell me.
It's the greens that think nuclear is worse than CO2.

LOL No, we think nuclear is inherently dangerous, and very expensive. And solar and wind have little danger, and are now the least expensive form of generation even with grid scale backup of whatever type. When private insurance companies will insure a nuke plant, then I may change my mind.

 

[elektra]

Well now, since wind and solar provide only 29% of Britain's electricity, I would have to say whatever provides the other 71% has a 71% share of the blame for Britain's lack of electricity. Do they fire up the old coal fired generators while they build out more wind and solar.

Yet, on windy days you are happy to celebrate the records, but when the wind and solar fail, you blame everything but which you celebrate as providing so much.

May gales help Britain set record for wind power generation

In early hours of Friday, windfarm turbines provided nearly two-thirds of Britain’s electricity

www.theguardian.com

Between 2am and 3am, wind was contributing 62.5% to Britain’s electricity mix, beating the previous record of 59.9% from August last year, when gale-force winds brought by storms Ellen and Francis hit the country.

As the blustery weather buffeted the UK, there were several periods between 10pm on Thursday night and early Friday morning when wind was contributing more than 60% for the first time.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL No, we think nuclear is inherently dangerous, and very expensive.

Is that why rates are so much higher in Germany than in France?

 

[elektra]

No it isn't, it supplied 40% of UK power last year...pretty substantial I'd say.
When it couldn't the backup options that were prudently engineered into the system kicked in.
When hydro dams run low through drought do you say that hydro is failing?
What about when the gas plants failed in Texas this year...do you say that gas failed?

uh? yes, when hydro can not supply power it has failed, as it failed in Venezuela, which got around 70% of it's power from one dam.

You are asking, "when gas plants failed...", do I say they failed? Nice try, but if something fails, it has failed. Gas or Hydro, a failure is a failure.

Britain is scrambling to build undersea cables to Europe so that it has the energy it needs. Yes, it is very prudent to find energy when one has wasted so much money on Wind and Solar power.

 

[Old Rocks]

Green stupidity resulting in much more expensive power. Why wouldn't I LOL?

You have been shown this many times. So the stupidity is on your part. And the cost of gas plants, pipe lines, nuclear plants, ect. is rising. While the cost of solar and wind installations continue to drop, and it looks like this trend will continue for the foreseeable future.

Levelized Cost of Energy+

Levelized Cost of Energy+

www.lazard.com

 

[elektra]

Great, so the backup systems worked as they should.

Actually they did not, Great Britain is short of power. It looks like a dreadful winter is upon them. All the news outlets are reporting this as a tragedy.

 

[idb]

Would they need to import so much from France if they were still using their coal plants, instead
of more expensive, less reliable wind power?

They buy power from overseas...so what?
That's part of their electricity system.
Why is the USA importing electricity from Canada and Mexico?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You have been shown this many times. So the stupidity is on your part. And the cost of gas plants, pipe lines, nuclear plants, ect. is rising. While the cost of solar and wind installations continue to drop, and it looks like this trend will continue for the foreseeable future.

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Looks pretty cheap.

 

[Old Rocks]

uh? yes, when hydro can not supply power it has failed, as it failed in Venezuela, which got around 70% of it's power from one dam.

You are asking, "when gas plants failed...", do I say they failed? Nice try, but if something fails, it has failed. Gas or Hydro, a failure is a failure.

Britain is scrambling to build undersea cables to Europe so that it has the energy it needs. Yes, it is very prudent to find energy when one has wasted so much money on Wind and Solar power.

Such a dumb ass you continue to be. The sources of generation are continuing to supply the same amount that they did prior to the cable failure. And the Brits had a backup at ready. Considering how recent the inexpensive wind and solar have been developed, they are doing very well to already have 29% of their electricity from those sources. In the near future, they will have even more from renewables.

 

[idb]

uh? yes, when hydro can not supply power it has failed, as it failed in Venezuela, which got around 70% of it's power from one dam.

You are asking, "when gas plants failed...", do I say they failed? Nice try, but if something fails, it has failed. Gas or Hydro, a failure is a failure.

Britain is scrambling to build undersea cables to Europe so that it has the energy it needs. Yes, it is very prudent to find energy when one has wasted so much money on Wind and Solar power.

So, to sum it all up, you have no point to make except to take pleasure at the misfortune of a bunch of people that isn't you.
Very nice.

 

[elektra]

You have been shown this many times. So the stupidity is on your part. And the cost of gas plants, pipe lines, nuclear plants, ect. is rising. While the cost of solar and wind installations continue to drop, and it looks like this trend will continue for the foreseeable future.

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Levelized Cost of Energy+

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www.lazard.com

Great Britain is suffering rising energy prices because they became over reliant on unreliable Solar and Wind electricity. It does not matter how cheap something is if it is unreliable. And yes, cheap as in Great Britain must spend at least $4 trillion on Wind Turbines?

 

[idb]

Actually they did not, Great Britain is short of power. It looks like a dreadful winter is upon them. All the news outlets are reporting this as a tragedy.

Your own article showed that they did.