Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[eagle1462010]

Trump will be leaving office soon. And we will not be as quiet as before. Will be a reckoning

Sounds like a threat.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Minor contact.

 

[Tyrion234]

Her "husband" triggered the flight response, not the fight response.

They were one and the same in this case

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Experts say he should have just moved.

He WAS moving. She repositioned her car towards him and accelerated. He reacted. Geezus...

 

[Delldude]

They said the officer — identified through court records as Jonathan Ross, an employee of the agency’s Enforcement and Removal Operations division — placed himself at needless risk, escalated the situation and went against best law enforcement practices during the incident.

“[E]ven if the woman was mainly trying to get away (which is what it looks like to me), she was engaged in an actionable assault on a federal officer, a felony under Section 111 of the federal penal code,” McCarthy wrote in a piece for National Review.
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“Even if you believe, as I’m inclined to believe based on what we’ve seen so far, that the woman was just trying to get away, she did so by swiping the car in the agent’s direction,” the former prosecutor continued. “She may not have intended to run him over, but she sure didn’t appear to be trying to avoid running him over if that was necessary to escape.”
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As for the ICE agent who shot and killed Good, he is unlikely to face charges because regardless of the driver’s intention, the officer’s “life was jeopardized” and his use of force was justified, according to McCarthy.

“It is settled Fourth Amendment law that a police officer may use deadly force against a fleeing suspect if he has a good-faith belief that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others,” he wrote.

“Here, I believe the driver was in the act of committing a dangerous assault when the agent opened fire,” McCarthy continued. “And the driver’s reckless operation of the vehicle, coupled with the fact that she was heedless of harming armed law enforcement agents as they were carrying out their official duties, underscores that it was reasonable to believe she posed a serious threat to the agents and others.”
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Department of Homeland Security (DHS) policy allows officers to use deadly force against fleeing subjects when their actions pose a threat to law enforcement officers or civilians.

Under the policy, federal agents are authorized to use deadly force when dealing with fleeing suspects if they have “a reasonable belief that the subject poses a significant threat of death or serious physical harm” to others, and “such force is necessary to prevent escape.”

McCarthy further noted that an investigation into the shooting launched by Minnesota Democrats will likely go nowhere.

“The feds will not cooperate in the investigation. If state law enforcement brings charges, the federal government will seek to have the case removed to federal court,” he wrote.

Legal experts weigh in on deadly Minneapolis ICE shooting — and whether charges are possible

“[E]ven if the woman was mainly trying to get away (which is what it looks like to me), she was engaged in an actionable assault on a federal officer, a felony under Section 111 of the federal pena…

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[Dirk the Daring]

The opinions of experts who weren’t there don’t matter, but the opinions of non-experts who weren’t there do matter?

lol

By what criteria are you gauging one an 'expert?' Because it appears you are currently relying on 'experts' who had not yet seen ALL the evidence. Kinda limits their 'expertise' dontcha think?

(Hint: Yes it does, along with weakening the credibility of your argument)

 

[XponentialChaos]

You have PROOF that approximately 173 MILLION Americans disagree with Frank? Can we see those numbers please?

Do you not know how polls work? They don’t ask every single person.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You really don't have to respond if all you are going to do is post irrelevant nonsense about your pathetic feelings, asshat.

It’s not my problem if you don’t like what I choose to do.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Ha, which I essentially proved they hadn't.

“Essentially proved”

 

[Bitterhook]

It’s not my problem if you don’t like what I choose to do.

If it's not your problem, then why are you still making useless posts?
You are only telling on yourself, and it's pretty pathetic, asshat.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Like Renee Good?

You see the comparison. Awesome!

Yes they both made very bad mistakes. I’m glad we agree.

Finally a MAGA who admits that Babbitt fucked around and found out.

 

[Delldude]

Your knee jerk bullshit grew tiresome ages ago

now go screw yourself

included above:
Governed by DHS policy and federal law (8 CFR § 287.8

Knew you and care4all couldn't. She referred to a specific regulation.

Post it.......

 

[XponentialChaos]

If it's not your problem, then why are you still making useless posts?
You are only telling on yourself, and it's pretty pathetic, asshat.

You’re still complaining and I still don’t care.

 

[JoeB131]

He WAS moving. She repositioned her car towards him and accelerated. He reacted. Geezus...

No, she turned the car to avoid him.

 

[XponentialChaos]

That doesn't matter. SHE DID HIT HIM. THAT is what matters.

If it doesn’t matter, then why do you people lie about it? It’s pretty obvious that she wasn’t trying to hit him, so why do you people say she was trying to hit him?

 

[Dirk the Daring]

The problem is actually Babbitt was not aware of any police orders as there were none. The coward bird stood off to the side and fired one shot to the neck from about 10 ft away. No one can explain why he didn't go stand in front of her to stop her progress.

I haven't seen that video in a while, but I guarantee you that at some point between entering the Capitol and where she was shot, SOMEONE told her not to proceed any further.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

What made Renee Good into a Karen?

Her genetics?

 

[XponentialChaos]

He WAS moving. She repositioned her car towards him and accelerated. He reacted. Geezus...

Police experts disagree with your boot-licking opinion. Thanks for sharing though.

 

[Delldude]

No, she turned the car to avoid him.

Not according to video.

 

[XponentialChaos]

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lol he’s fine. Nothing severe.