Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[Dirk the Daring]

It definitely should have been severely punished, but she shouldn’t have been killed over it. Law enforcement experts don’t say it was legit.

Sure they do, when they haven't yet seen all the evidence...

 

[eagle1462010]

i refuse to live in a fascist state without revolt.

resisting tyranny is in real americans' DNA.

Tyranny of taxes without representation?

Handed out out our tax dollars to illegals?

Putting them in hotels while vets homeless?

Too many regs, decrees put solar in your roof or else?

Let fake women go into womens bathrooms?

Drag Queens teaching kids?

Fake men in womens sports?

Take the jab or LOSE YOUR JOB?


Plenty of shit for a second civil war here.

Anytime yall feel skippy.

 

[Bitterhook]

That’s your problem, not mine.

Keep crying.

You really don't have to respond if all you are going to do is post irrelevant nonsense about your pathetic feelings, asshat.

 

[Dante]

List the regulation, not an AI opinion.

Your knee jerk bullshit grew tiresome ages ago

now go screw yourself

included above:
Governed by DHS policy and federal law (8 CFR § 287.8

 

[Dante]

All have to be investigated.

Trump will be leaving office soon. And we will not be as quiet as before. Will be a reckoning

 

[OODA_Loop]

AI Overview:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) regulations permit deadly force only when an officer reasonably believes it's necessary to prevent imminent death or serious injury to themselves or others, not solely to stop a fleeing person, though agents are trained to avoid situations like standing in front of moving vehicles to prevent danger.

Governed by DHS policy and federal law (8 CFR § 287.8), officers must use de-escalation and the minimum force necessary, but the Supreme Court has allowed broad discretion for split-second decisions, creating tension between policy and practice, especially in vehicle encounters where agents have been involved in shootings, as seen in recent events.


Key Regulations & Policies

Imminent Threat Standard: Deadly force is allowed only when an officer has a reasonable belief that a subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to themselves or another person, according to DHS policy and federal regulation 8 CFR § 287.8.

No Solely to Prevent Escape: Deadly force cannot be used solely to prevent a fleeing suspect's escape, though agents may use it if there's a belief that such force is necessary to prevent escape and the person poses a significant threat, notes Time Magazine.


De-escalation & Minimum Force: Agents are trained to de-escalate, use less-lethal options first, and only use the minimum force necessary, says NPR.

Officer Discretion: The Supreme Court has granted leeway for officers' split-second decisions, leading to debates over whether actions meet policy standards, according to the BBC.


Context & Recent Issues

Training vs. Practice: While policies discourage actions like agents placing themselves in front of moving cars, some agents still do, potentially strengthening claims of self-defense after an incident, according to Time Magazine.

Controversial Incidents: Recent shootings, like one in Minneapolis, highlight the gap between policy and practice, with critics arguing that agents' actions may not align with de-escalation principles, notes_____________________

If a law enforcement officer is crossing in front of your car to get to his partner at your driver's door who is trying extricate you from the car do you have a right to hit the cop as you try to flee?

 

[Bitterhook]

Sure they do, when they haven't yet seen all the evidence...

Or are trying to serve an agenda and inadvertently corrupt the conversation following that instead of letting the evidence speak for itself.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

She drove past him and even police experts have spoken out and said that he responded inappropriately.

“BUt ThEY DIDNt sEE tHE VIdEO I POSteD” has been your response.

Ha, which I essentially proved they hadn't. Geezus Christo you couldn't write FICTIONAL characters this dumb, as no one would believe it...

 

[Lisa558]

If a law enforcement officer is crossing in front of your car to get to his partner at your driver's door who is trying extricate you from the car do you have a right to hit the cop as you try to flee?

I vote no.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Ashlii DumbBitch should have complied with the law. She fucked around and she found out.

Like Renee Good?

 

[Dirk the Daring]

She wasn’t trying to hit him. She was trying to flee.

That doesn't matter. SHE DID HIT HIM. THAT is what matters.

 

[Lisa558]

Like Renee Good?

Ashli Babbit had no weapon. Renee Good had a lethal weapon and was in the process of using it against a law officer.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I vote no.

In that split second do you have reasonable belief that great bodily harm or death could occur from a car trying to flee and hitting you with no regard for public safety?

 

[Lisa558]

In that split second do you have reasonable belief that great bodily harm death could occur from a car trying to flee and hitting you with no regard for public safety?

I vote yes. It was justifiable homicide due to self-defense.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

If the police aren't going to give someone a chance to comply with an order, what is the point of giving the order in the first place? Talk about stupid!

Does it take you a full MINUTE to put your car in park, turn off the ignition, and exit your vehicle? Geez...

 

[eagle1462010]

Anyone know what the root cause of these violent protests is about?

BRAIN WASHED LEFTIST

 

[JoeB131]

Lord, I hope that MACYs doesn’t do for her what they did for Floyd. Every day they had 8 minutes of silence in his honor.

I bet that infuriated you.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I bet that infuriated you.

You know it did.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I vote yes. It was justifiable homicide due to self-defense.

I would agree. But question the follow-up shots.......... but recognize once you engage in car strikes, fleeing and shots fired the adrenaline and fight or flight kicks in it goes south so quick and absent a clearly instigating action, which she instigated the violence here .......will side with officer survive-ability more times than not.

 

[OODA_Loop]

You know it did.

Have you seen George Floyd's autopsy report ? Wow.