Breaking News - Israel launches ground offensive in Gaza

Wars can't be won without killing a few civilians. It's a fact and Israel can't change that fact.

Tell Hamas to come out in the open and fight fair so Israel won't have to kill any civilians getting to them. That'll solve the problem.
will israel fight fair? will israel arm hamas to the same level they are (or proportionately disarm)? or will they keep bringing a tank to the rock fight?

That's not what fight fair means. This ain't no game, we don't give everyone 5000 dollars so everyone is exactly even. You got what you got. Stop hiding behind the civilians and come out in the open. If you can't win you don't deserve to win.
not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.
 
Israel should retake Gaza from Palestine. They should go on a full offensive and conquer the Gaza Strip. Show those people that they will have better lives as Israeli citizens than with a government who would use them as nothing more than fodder for political purposes.

I agree. Because the place sure has gone to hell in the last nine years.
 
The civilians have the legal right to stay in their homes.

Israel targeting them in their homes is what is unlawful.
 
will israel fight fair? will israel arm hamas to the same level they are (or proportionately disarm)? or will they keep bringing a tank to the rock fight?

That's not what fight fair means. This ain't no game, we don't give everyone 5000 dollars so everyone is exactly even. You got what you got. Stop hiding behind the civilians and come out in the open. If you can't win you don't deserve to win.
not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.

Then surrender.
 
The funny thing is if Hamas was really destroyed they would only be replaced by a more extremist Muslim group, like ISIS.

There will always be resistance to occupation, and that is as it should be.

Palestine has gotten rid of many occupiers, the child killing Zionists will be ultimately defeated as all the others were.
 
The civilians have the legal right to stay in their homes.

Israel targeting them in their homes is what is unlawful.

Not how it works in war. When we went to war against Germany we carpet bombed their apartment residential districts. It is what it is. Not illegal.
 
That's not what fight fair means. This ain't no game, we don't give everyone 5000 dollars so everyone is exactly even. You got what you got. Stop hiding behind the civilians and come out in the open. If you can't win you don't deserve to win.
not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.

Then surrender.

not much of an option there, either.

whether you or i like it or not, they're fighting for what they believe in. somehow thinking that they're going to 'fight fair' or surrender just isn't realistic.
guerrilla warfare will be the order of the day
 
Occupation invites resistance, it is the very essence of Occupation. Resistance will never stop.


That's not what fight fair means. This ain't no game, we don't give everyone 5000 dollars so everyone is exactly even. You got what you got. Stop hiding behind the civilians and come out in the open. If you can't win you don't deserve to win.
not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.

Then surrender.
 
not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.

Then surrender.

not much of an option there, either.

whether you or i like it or not, they're fighting for what they believe in. somehow thinking that they're going to 'fight fair' or surrender just isn't realistic.
guerrilla warfare will be the order of the day

Then don't complain when they fight back and try to kill you.
 
Occupation invites resistance, it is the very essence of Occupation. Resistance will never stop.


not much motivation to fight fair as you put it then, is there? israel has the military superiority, no doubt about that. thus, conventional warfare is not an attractive, or even possible, option for the palestinians.

Then surrender.

Israel is not occupation, it is the capital of the kingdom of God ruled by Jesus with a Jew on either hand. If you fight that you fight every idiot who believes in the bible.
 
would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

The only 'submitting' HAMAS would have to do is leave the Israeli people alone and not fire any more rockets at them. HAMAS has a very clear intent not simply to create a 'Palestinian' state (Islamist theocratic dictatorship) - but to do so on every square inch of what is Israel, in complete defiance of the UN rulings which established the right to a 'Palestinian' state in the first place.

Somehow, I cannot distort reality far enough to justify HAMAS' continuing attempts to destroy its neighboring state. Evidently you can......

Just stop feeding the Troll
 
Israel started it.........(Offensive filth and lies removed)

There it goes, the l'il sherriliar spewing filth and lies again!

Yes, indeedy! "Israel started it" - by accepting its portion of the Mandate for its State, and trying to survive the attacks by the Arab League cabal, the boycott by the Arab League cabal - and of course the ethnic cleansing by the Arab League cabal.

In actual fact, the failure of 'Palestine' to declare its State back in '47 was due to the nefarious connivance of the Arab League conspirators. The conflict with Israel is PART of 'Palestine's problems - but the pattern of abuse by their Arab League masters is very clear, even to some of the Palestinians.

The Palestinians will never have the dignity they deserve, until they throw off the Arab League yoke and become a free people. Then they can negotiate with Israel on equal terms, and not as the pitiful beggar stepchild of Arab League conspirators.
 
would you ever be cowed into submitting just because the odds were against you?

The only 'submitting' HAMAS would have to do is leave the Israeli people alone and not fire any more rockets at them. HAMAS has a very clear intent not simply to create a 'Palestinian' state (Islamist theocratic dictatorship) - but to do so on every square inch of what is Israel, in complete defiance of the UN rulings which established the right to a 'Palestinian' state in the first place.

Somehow, I cannot distort reality far enough to justify HAMAS' continuing attempts to destroy its neighboring state. Evidently you can......

Just stop feeding the Troll

why do you say i'm trolling? because i don't agree with israel?
 
Basically this is what it amounts to:

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do you really not see what's wrong with that?

Nothing whatsoever. I hate bullies. Hamas is a bully. Bullies need to get decked.
 
Occupation invites resistance, it is the very essence of Occupation. Resistance will never stop.


Absolutely correct! Of course, that's in terms of HAMAS occupying Gaza - which is what they're doing. The poor Gazans have very little means to resist HAMAS' vile excesses and abuses - but I'm willing to believe the majority have indeed remained human despite the odds. You know what I mean, the hate that is HAMAS kiddy TV and the hate taught in classrooms, the idolizing of HAMAS baby murderers...... all of that.
 
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not much of an option there, either.

whether you or i like it or not, they're fighting for what they believe in. somehow thinking that they're going to 'fight fair' or surrender just isn't realistic.
guerrilla warfare will be the order of the day

Then don't complain when they fight back and try to kill you.

again, nobody is trying to kill me.

Just give them a chance to get to know you better.......... :badgrin:
 
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