BREAKING: Federal judge rules Oregon’s tough new gun law is constitutional

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Hopefully this ends up in the Supreme Court, and is struck down. This law will set a very bad precedent for other states.

A federal judge has ruled Oregon’s voter-approved gun control measure — one of the toughest in the nation — is constitutional

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A federal judge has ruled Oregon’s voter-approved gun control measure – one of the toughest in the nation – is constitutional.

U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut ruled that banning large capacity magazines and requiring a permit to purchase a gun falls in line with “the nation’s history and tradition of regulating uniquely dangerous features of weapons and firearms to protect public safety," Oregon Public Broadcasting reported.
 
44 states have something similar to the 2nd, written into their state constitutions.

I support a state's right to chose to control guns (not saying it is constitutional....it is muddy to me).

I think it's foolish to have a strong gun control policy....I am speaking strictly from how I things are set up.

Unless you believe in the business of selective incorporation.....a truly activist position. If you think it is real, then states can't make their own gun laws. It will all be managed at the federal level.
 
Hopefully this ends up in the Supreme Court, and is struck down. This law will set a very bad precedent for other states.

A federal judge has ruled Oregon’s voter-approved gun control measure — one of the toughest in the nation — is constitutional


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To be expected within an Blue Plantation State riddled Oregon with Blue Socialist Democrat Judges that believe as elitists they can legislate from the bench and violate the Constitution and the Peoples unalienable Right to self protection of one`s self and family.
 
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To be expected within an Blue Plantation State riddled Oregon with Blue Socialist Democrat Judges that believe as elitists they can legislate from the bench and violate the Constitution and the Peoples unalienable Right to self protection of one`s self and family.

This particular judge was appointed by Trump.
 
A leftoid Republican "judge", forced on Trump since both Senators in Oregon are Democrats.

How it goes with District Court judges, you have to accept someone who they like to get another appointment of your choosing.
 
Meanwhile in the hinterlands of OR it's being totally ignored by pretty much all the SDs.
Excellent! The precedent these "sanctuary" states set during Trump's term will come back to seriously bite them in the nether regions someday if they manage to get SCOTUS to back their anti-2A nonsense. That will also help us all down the road to more general lawlessness. Once we stop trusting elections and refuse to obey SCOTUS' decisions, there isn't much left. Just like what the globalist Left wants.
 
"U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut ruled that banning large capacity magazines and requiring a permit to purchase a gun falls in line with “the nation’s history and tradition of regulating uniquely dangerous features of weapons and firearms to protect public safety," Oregon Public Broadcasting reported."

First off, banning large capacity magazines does nothing to protect public safety. Those bans are about buying a magazine and does nothing about the ones already out there, which I would imagine number in the hundreds of millions if not billions. You can buy a 10-round magazine and alter it to hold a lot more cartridges, or you can get a friend or relative to buy whatever you want in another state that doesn't have a ban. And there's no real way to enforce it anyway, so why bother unless it's merely a political gesture that means nothing but shores up your support from the political base.

Interesting to see if the large capacity magazine ban is ruled constitutional, the justices may decide to let the states make their own laws about that. Or the laws that require a gun purchaser to be at least 21. But the ones about requiring a permit is I think unconstitutional and will get thrown out. If I don't need a carry permit then why would I need a permit to buy a gun? How would Oregon's permit check be any different from the current background check?

The other thing about these ruling is that most people won't comply, like the recent deal with the arm brace on an AR-15 pistol. People are giving the ATF and the Biden Administration the finger, at least for the most part. Isn't it kinda stupid to pass laws that you cannot enforce and most people refuse to comply with? That is, unless you're a democrat looking to solidify your political base. Public safety won't be enhanced at all but WTH, you'll get re-elected.
 
Hopefully this ends up in the Supreme Court, and is struck down. This law will set a very bad precedent for other states.

A federal judge has ruled Oregon’s voter-approved gun control measure — one of the toughest in the nation — is constitutional



The only real part of the Law is that the mag should have been increased to 15. The word used by Heller V DC is "Reasonable".

Now how about letting each state determine what is "Reasonable".
 
"U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut ruled that banning large capacity magazines and requiring a permit to purchase a gun falls in line with “the nation’s history and tradition of regulating uniquely dangerous features of weapons and firearms to protect public safety," Oregon Public Broadcasting reported."

First off, banning large capacity magazines does nothing to protect public safety. Those bans are about buying a magazine and does nothing about the ones already out there, which I would imagine number in the hundreds of millions if not billions. You can buy a 10-round magazine and alter it to hold a lot more cartridges, or you can get a friend or relative to buy whatever you want in another state that doesn't have a ban. And there's no real way to enforce it anyway, so why bother unless it's merely a political gesture that means nothing but shores up your support from the political base.

Interesting to see if the large capacity magazine ban is ruled constitutional, the justices may decide to let the states make their own laws about that. Or the laws that require a gun purchaser to be at least 21. But the ones about requiring a permit is I think unconstitutional and will get thrown out. If I don't need a carry permit then why would I need a permit to buy a gun? How would Oregon's permit check be any different from the current background check?

The other thing about these ruling is that most people won't comply, like the recent deal with the arm brace on an AR-15 pistol. People are giving the ATF and the Biden Administration the finger, at least for the most part. Isn't it kinda stupid to pass laws that you cannot enforce and most people refuse to comply with? That is, unless you're a democrat looking to solidify your political base. Public safety won't be enhanced at all but WTH, you'll get re-elected.

You are arguing points that have been done over and over. What you are really saying is that no one but your bunch has the right to their own rights that are born.
 
The only real part of the Law is that the mag should have been increased to 15. The word used by Heller V DC is "Reasonable".

Now how about letting each state determine what is "Reasonable".

Sure, as long as it's not a violation of the Second Amendment, and each state's own Constitution. In Oregon's case, gun rights are spelled out even clearer than the U.S. Constitution.
 
You are arguing points that have been done over and over. What you are really saying is that no one but your bunch has the right to their own rights that are born.

Wow, you got that from what I said? Don't understand how you arrived at your conclusion, but I will say that in no way does my 2nd Amendment rights interfere with anyone else's constitutional rights. As a gun owner, it's not my fault if somebody shoots somebody else, regardless of how many bullets are in the gun. That said, I can live with leaving the issue of magazine limits to the states, but I highly doubt public safety will be enhanced. You'd be surprised how fast a person can drop an empty mag out of a gun and insert a fully loaded one.
 
Sure, as long as it's not a violation of the Second Amendment, and each state's own Constitution. In Oregon's case, gun rights are spelled out even clearer than the U.S. Constitution.
I am aware that rather than keep crying about it, the Gunnutters can get the increase from 10 to 15 rounds. "Reasonable"
 
Wow, you got that from what I said? Don't understand how you arrived at your conclusion, but I will say that in no way does my 2nd Amendment rights interfere with anyone else's constitutional rights. As a gun owner, it's not my fault if somebody shoots somebody else, regardless of how many bullets are in the gun. That said, I can live with leaving the issue of magazine limits to the states, but I highly doubt public safety will be enhanced. You'd be surprised how fast a person can drop an empty mag out of a gun and insert a fully loaded one.

Yah, right. After about 3 million spent by the NRA in Colorado in 2013, the only change that happened was the increase from 10 to 15 rounds.
 
This particular judge was appointed by Trump.
Who was a Democrat for decades then switched parties conveniently when an opening came up. She does her namesake proud. This ridiculous ruling in no way falls within the boundaries set forth by the Supreme Court. Sad.
 

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