Boycott Israel

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic
SUBREF: Survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates and co-sponsored by:

• Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), ​

Key Members of the CJPME Board:​

○ OSAMA ABU-SHIHAB ​

○ NADIA ABU-ZAHRA​

○ JEFFREY AYOUB​

○ GORDON KING​

○ AZEEZAH KANJI ​

○ MONIA MAZIGH ​

• Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV), ​

○ Palestine Solidarity: IJV was the first national Jewish organization to endorse the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. We continue to support and defend BDS as well as to hold Canadian organizations accountable when complicit in Israeli oppression of Palestinians.​

• United Network for Justice and Peace in Palestine-Israel (UNJPPI)​

○ A network working toward the goal of a just peace in Palestine and Israel by calling for an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and equal rights for all who live in Palestine/Israel through education and advocacy. ​

⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I just don't see this (the survey outcomes) the same way as you do.

Just another example of the government not being on the same page as the people.

(COMMENT)

These pro-Arab Palestinians are trying to use the survey results to justify the identity: The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means) are not the Hostiles that ”who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power" are not villains. These types of decisions have to be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic
SUBREF: Survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates and co-sponsored by:

• Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), ​

Key Members of the CJPME Board:​

○ OSAMA ABU-SHIHAB ​

○ NADIA ABU-ZAHRA​

○ JEFFREY AYOUB​

○ GORDON KING​

○ AZEEZAH KANJI ​

○ MONIA MAZIGH ​

• Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV), ​

○ Palestine Solidarity: IJV was the first national Jewish organization to endorse the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. We continue to support and defend BDS as well as to hold Canadian organizations accountable when complicit in Israeli oppression of Palestinians.​

• United Network for Justice and Peace in Palestine-Israel (UNJPPI)​

○ A network working toward the goal of a just peace in Palestine and Israel by calling for an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and equal rights for all who live in Palestine/Israel through education and advocacy. ​

⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I just don't see this (the survey outcomes) the same way as you do.

Just another example of the government not being on the same page as the people.

(COMMENT)

These pro-Arab Palestinians are trying to use the survey results to justify the identity: The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means) are not the Hostiles that ”who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power" are not villains. These types of decisions have to be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means)

The Palestine solidarity movement is much more than just BDS even though that is a common theme among them. They are rights groups and individuals promoting the rights of Palestinians. They do many things to promote those rights.

One of their biggest accomplishments is that now, unlike the recent past, Palestine exists and the Palestinians exist. And that existence predates Israel.

 

[gtopa1]

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug

January 7, 2014 by Jackson Doughart

...

Ive long tried to understand the contemporary Lefts obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and its tunnel-visioned view of the matter, which categorizes all Israeli actions as evil and all Arab ones as an admirable fight against oppression. One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews; after all, the unfounded and premature attribution of bigotry to ones political opponents is normally the sign of a weak argument.

The best such explanation that I can come up with rests on the radical Lefts predilection for anti-Americanism, which resembles far more a political position than a form of bigotry. The problem, in their eyes, is not Israel per se but the fact that it is an ally of the Great Satan. There is some empirical support for this: even figures such as Noam Chomsky were not hostile to Israel in its early existence. The country was, as one recalls, founded primarily on the principles of democratic socialism and owed to Jewish Leftists for its establishment. Chomsky even lived in Israel on a kibbutz for a time. It was only when Israel aligned itself with the United States that it became complicit, in their view, with American imperialism, and hence dismissible on principle. The Lefts anti-Israelism could thus be chalked up to the decayed ideology of anti-colonialism, which has for decades been focuses squarely on American foreign policy.

...

The problem with the ASAs boycott is not its means, but rather its ends. On this point there is no room for an even-handed middle ground. Those who depart from the anti-Israel world view must voice their dissent now; if they dont, the boycotts will keep rolling in.

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug | FrontPage Magazine

It's all about hating America AND ITS ALLIES. Simple really; the Pals are just useful idiots to the Left's cause.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

How the fuck am I supposed to boycott Israel? Do they produce something that I use?

Do you use war?

To you the Pals are just useful idiots in your Hate America psychosis; go to hell!!!

Greg

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug

January 7, 2014 by Jackson Doughart

...

Ive long tried to understand the contemporary Lefts obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and its tunnel-visioned view of the matter, which categorizes all Israeli actions as evil and all Arab ones as an admirable fight against oppression. One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews; after all, the unfounded and premature attribution of bigotry to ones political opponents is normally the sign of a weak argument.

The best such explanation that I can come up with rests on the radical Lefts predilection for anti-Americanism, which resembles far more a political position than a form of bigotry. The problem, in their eyes, is not Israel per se but the fact that it is an ally of the Great Satan. There is some empirical support for this: even figures such as Noam Chomsky were not hostile to Israel in its early existence. The country was, as one recalls, founded primarily on the principles of democratic socialism and owed to Jewish Leftists for its establishment. Chomsky even lived in Israel on a kibbutz for a time. It was only when Israel aligned itself with the United States that it became complicit, in their view, with American imperialism, and hence dismissible on principle. The Lefts anti-Israelism could thus be chalked up to the decayed ideology of anti-colonialism, which has for decades been focuses squarely on American foreign policy.

...

The problem with the ASAs boycott is not its means, but rather its ends. On this point there is no room for an even-handed middle ground. Those who depart from the anti-Israel world view must voice their dissent now; if they dont, the boycotts will keep rolling in.

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug | FrontPage Magazine

It's all about hating America AND ITS ALLIES. Simple really; the Pals are just useful idiots to the Left's cause.

Greg

One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews;​

It has nothing to do with Jews. The Palestinian's response would be the same if they were occupied by Hindus. It is not about religion. It is about colonialism.

 

[Hollie]

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug

January 7, 2014 by Jackson Doughart

...

Ive long tried to understand the contemporary Lefts obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and its tunnel-visioned view of the matter, which categorizes all Israeli actions as evil and all Arab ones as an admirable fight against oppression. One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews; after all, the unfounded and premature attribution of bigotry to ones political opponents is normally the sign of a weak argument.

The best such explanation that I can come up with rests on the radical Lefts predilection for anti-Americanism, which resembles far more a political position than a form of bigotry. The problem, in their eyes, is not Israel per se but the fact that it is an ally of the Great Satan. There is some empirical support for this: even figures such as Noam Chomsky were not hostile to Israel in its early existence. The country was, as one recalls, founded primarily on the principles of democratic socialism and owed to Jewish Leftists for its establishment. Chomsky even lived in Israel on a kibbutz for a time. It was only when Israel aligned itself with the United States that it became complicit, in their view, with American imperialism, and hence dismissible on principle. The Lefts anti-Israelism could thus be chalked up to the decayed ideology of anti-colonialism, which has for decades been focuses squarely on American foreign policy.

...

The problem with the ASAs boycott is not its means, but rather its ends. On this point there is no room for an even-handed middle ground. Those who depart from the anti-Israel world view must voice their dissent now; if they dont, the boycotts will keep rolling in.

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug | FrontPage Magazine

It's all about hating America AND ITS ALLIES. Simple really; the Pals are just useful idiots to the Left's cause.

Greg

One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews;​

It has nothing to do with Jews. The Palestinian's response would be the same if they were occupied by Hindus. It is not about religion. It is about colonialism.

There is no sovereign Pali land that is occupied.

The Pali gee-had clearly is about religion. Read the Hamas Charter for a primer.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic
SUBREF: Survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates and co-sponsored by:

• Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), ​

Key Members of the CJPME Board:​

○ OSAMA ABU-SHIHAB ​

○ NADIA ABU-ZAHRA​

○ JEFFREY AYOUB​

○ GORDON KING​

○ AZEEZAH KANJI ​

○ MONIA MAZIGH ​

• Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV), ​

○ Palestine Solidarity: IJV was the first national Jewish organization to endorse the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. We continue to support and defend BDS as well as to hold Canadian organizations accountable when complicit in Israeli oppression of Palestinians.​

• United Network for Justice and Peace in Palestine-Israel (UNJPPI)​

○ A network working toward the goal of a just peace in Palestine and Israel by calling for an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and equal rights for all who live in Palestine/Israel through education and advocacy. ​

⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I just don't see this (the survey outcomes) the same way as you do.

Just another example of the government not being on the same page as the people.

(COMMENT)

These pro-Arab Palestinians are trying to use the survey results to justify the identity: The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means) are not the Hostiles that ”who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power" are not villains. These types of decisions have to be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means)

The Palestine solidarity movement is much more than just BDS even though that is a common theme among them. They are rights groups and individuals promoting the rights of Palestinians. They do many things to promote those rights.

One of their biggest accomplishments is that now, unlike the recent past, Palestine exists and the Palestinians exist. And that existence predates Israel.

Your frantic attempts to re-write history are well established at this point. As it has been explained to you repeatedly, your imagined Islamic paradise of “Pal’istan” (where dreams come true) was never what you imagined it was. The Ottoman territories of the Sanjak of Akka and the Sanjak of Nablus were the land areas from which you have invented an entire Arab-Islamic civilization as your mythical Pal’istan.

Do you also believe yourself to have commanded the French forces at Waterloo?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic
SUBREF: Survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates and co-sponsored by:

• Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), ​

Key Members of the CJPME Board:​

○ OSAMA ABU-SHIHAB ​

○ NADIA ABU-ZAHRA​

○ JEFFREY AYOUB​

○ GORDON KING​

○ AZEEZAH KANJI ​

○ MONIA MAZIGH ​

• Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV), ​

○ Palestine Solidarity: IJV was the first national Jewish organization to endorse the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. We continue to support and defend BDS as well as to hold Canadian organizations accountable when complicit in Israeli oppression of Palestinians.​

• United Network for Justice and Peace in Palestine-Israel (UNJPPI)​

○ A network working toward the goal of a just peace in Palestine and Israel by calling for an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and equal rights for all who live in Palestine/Israel through education and advocacy. ​

⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I just don't see this (the survey outcomes) the same way as you do.

Just another example of the government not being on the same page as the people.

(COMMENT)

These pro-Arab Palestinians are trying to use the survey results to justify the identity: The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means) are not the Hostiles that ”who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power" are not villains. These types of decisions have to be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means)

The Palestine solidarity movement is much more than just BDS even though that is a common theme among them. They are rights groups and individuals promoting the rights of Palestinians. They do many things to promote those rights.

One of their biggest accomplishments is that now, unlike the recent past, Palestine exists and the Palestinians exist. And that existence predates Israel.

Your frantic attempts to re-write history are well established at this point. As it has been explained to you repeatedly, your imagined Islamic paradise of “Pal’istan” (where dreams come true) was never what you imagined it was. The Ottoman territories of the Sanjak of Akka and the Sanjak of Nablus were the land areas from which you have invented an entire Arab-Islamic civilization as your mythical Pal’istan.

Do you also believe yourself to have commanded the French forces at Waterloo?

WOW, that was a lot of clutter.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic
SUBREF: Survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates and co-sponsored by:

• Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CJPME), ​

Key Members of the CJPME Board:​

○ OSAMA ABU-SHIHAB ​

○ NADIA ABU-ZAHRA​

○ JEFFREY AYOUB​

○ GORDON KING​

○ AZEEZAH KANJI ​

○ MONIA MAZIGH ​

• Independent Jewish Voices Canada (IJV), ​

○ Palestine Solidarity: IJV was the first national Jewish organization to endorse the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. We continue to support and defend BDS as well as to hold Canadian organizations accountable when complicit in Israeli oppression of Palestinians.​

• United Network for Justice and Peace in Palestine-Israel (UNJPPI)​

○ A network working toward the goal of a just peace in Palestine and Israel by calling for an end to the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and equal rights for all who live in Palestine/Israel through education and advocacy. ​

⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: I just don't see this (the survey outcomes) the same way as you do.

Just another example of the government not being on the same page as the people.

(COMMENT)

These pro-Arab Palestinians are trying to use the survey results to justify the identity: The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means) are not the Hostiles that ”who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power" are not villains. These types of decisions have to be adjudicated on a case-by-case basis.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestine solidarity movement (whatever that exactly means)

The Palestine solidarity movement is much more than just BDS even though that is a common theme among them. They are rights groups and individuals promoting the rights of Palestinians. They do many things to promote those rights.

One of their biggest accomplishments is that now, unlike the recent past, Palestine exists and the Palestinians exist. And that existence predates Israel.

Your frantic attempts to re-write history are well established at this point. As it has been explained to you repeatedly, your imagined Islamic paradise of “Pal’istan” (where dreams come true) was never what you imagined it was. The Ottoman territories of the Sanjak of Akka and the Sanjak of Nablus were the land areas from which you have invented an entire Arab-Islamic civilization as your mythical Pal’istan.

Do you also believe yourself to have commanded the French forces at Waterloo?

WOW, that was a lot of clutter.

Your usual deflection.

 

[P F Tinmore]

65 French Students StandUp to Israeli Ambassador! BDS Free Palestine

 

[Hollie]

 

[rylah]

Survey: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic

Survey: Canadians Reject Efforts to Brand Criticism and Protest of Israel as Antisemitic

Montreal, October 7, 2020 — Newly published results from a survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates show that Canadians do not support efforts to conflate support for Palestinian human rights with anti-Jewish prejudice. The survey found that the majority of Canadians believe that criticism...

www.cjpme.org

This actually shows that even when presented in the most watered down salesman version,
every BDS activity on this list is considered racist bigotry by large portion of Canadians.

And the reasoning behind trying to justify racist bigotry,
by relying on popular opinion, is the definition of prejudice.

Exactly what BDS appeals to.
How to market prejudice.

If some 300 years ago they asked Americans about slavery, what would the survey say?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Odd that Arabs-Moslems masquerading as "Palestinians" rattle on about "Israeli oppression" when the Palis adhere to such an oppressive and genocidal ideology.

"Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors." The Imam and Martyr Hassan al-Banna(5)

I think it's quite clear who the real oppressors are.

 

[rylah]

When you call mothers strapping suicide belts to their kids "non-violent protests"
and the demand for Arab domination over the entire middle east "call for equality",

it only sheds more light on why other Arab nations
"oppress" this maddness as well.

 

[rylah]

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug

January 7, 2014 by Jackson Doughart

...

Ive long tried to understand the contemporary Lefts obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and its tunnel-visioned view of the matter, which categorizes all Israeli actions as evil and all Arab ones as an admirable fight against oppression. One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews; after all, the unfounded and premature attribution of bigotry to ones political opponents is normally the sign of a weak argument.

The best such explanation that I can come up with rests on the radical Lefts predilection for anti-Americanism, which resembles far more a political position than a form of bigotry. The problem, in their eyes, is not Israel per se but the fact that it is an ally of the Great Satan. There is some empirical support for this: even figures such as Noam Chomsky were not hostile to Israel in its early existence. The country was, as one recalls, founded primarily on the principles of democratic socialism and owed to Jewish Leftists for its establishment. Chomsky even lived in Israel on a kibbutz for a time. It was only when Israel aligned itself with the United States that it became complicit, in their view, with American imperialism, and hence dismissible on principle. The Lefts anti-Israelism could thus be chalked up to the decayed ideology of anti-colonialism, which has for decades been focuses squarely on American foreign policy.

...

The problem with the ASAs boycott is not its means, but rather its ends. On this point there is no room for an even-handed middle ground. Those who depart from the anti-Israel world view must voice their dissent now; if they dont, the boycotts will keep rolling in.

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug | FrontPage Magazine

It's all about hating America AND ITS ALLIES. Simple really; the Pals are just useful idiots to the Left's cause.

Greg

One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews;​

It has nothing to do with Jews. The Palestinian's response would be the same if they were occupied by Hindus. It is not about religion. It is about colonialism.

Sure, and their response would be the same
if they were occupied by Hindus in India.

And I guess you think it makes the argument for their demand for an Arab colony?

 

[P F Tinmore]

When you call mothers strapping suicide belts to their kids "non-violent protests"
and the demand for Arab domination over the entire middle east "call for equality",

it only sheds more light on why other Arab nations
"oppress" this maddness as well.

You need to update your propaganda.

 

[gtopa1]

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug

January 7, 2014 by Jackson Doughart

...

Ive long tried to understand the contemporary Lefts obsession with the Israeli-Palestinian dispute and its tunnel-visioned view of the matter, which categorizes all Israeli actions as evil and all Arab ones as an admirable fight against oppression. One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews; after all, the unfounded and premature attribution of bigotry to ones political opponents is normally the sign of a weak argument.

The best such explanation that I can come up with rests on the radical Lefts predilection for anti-Americanism, which resembles far more a political position than a form of bigotry. The problem, in their eyes, is not Israel per se but the fact that it is an ally of the Great Satan. There is some empirical support for this: even figures such as Noam Chomsky were not hostile to Israel in its early existence. The country was, as one recalls, founded primarily on the principles of democratic socialism and owed to Jewish Leftists for its establishment. Chomsky even lived in Israel on a kibbutz for a time. It was only when Israel aligned itself with the United States that it became complicit, in their view, with American imperialism, and hence dismissible on principle. The Lefts anti-Israelism could thus be chalked up to the decayed ideology of anti-colonialism, which has for decades been focuses squarely on American foreign policy.

...

The problem with the ASAs boycott is not its means, but rather its ends. On this point there is no room for an even-handed middle ground. Those who depart from the anti-Israel world view must voice their dissent now; if they dont, the boycotts will keep rolling in.

The Israel Boycott, Anti-Judaism, and the Giant Shrug | FrontPage Magazine

It's all about hating America AND ITS ALLIES. Simple really; the Pals are just useful idiots to the Left's cause.

Greg

One should aim to find an explanation that does not rest on a fundamental hostility toward Jews;​

It has nothing to do with Jews. The Palestinian's response would be the same if they were occupied by Hindus. It is not about religion. It is about colonialism.

Rubbish; it is all about hating america AND ITS ALLIES!!! You useful idiots are a hoot!!!

Greg

 

[P F Tinmore]

Victory! Seville cancels Electronic Warfare Europe arms fair

In October, Liverpool, UK cancelled EWE’s planned arms fair there. Seville cancellation follows protests by progressive, anti-war and anti-racist groups.

bdsmovement.net

In a press release issued today by the City Council of Seville, the Councilor of Urban Housing, Tourism and Culture, Antonio Muñoz, announced the cancellation of the Electronic Warfare Europe arms fair which was scheduled to take place at the Palace of Exhibitions and Congresses of Fibes in Seville in May 2021.


The same fair had been cancelled in Liverpool, UK, where Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest private weapons manufacturer whose arms are regularly used by the Israeli military to kill and maim Palestinian civilians, was a partner. The Liverpool cancellation came after a strong local coalition - Liverpool Against the Electronic Arms Fair, in partnership with Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC), the Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT) and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) - urged Liverpool’s City Council to cancel the unethical event promoting violations of human rights.

 

[Issa]

Don't these morons calling for the boycott of Israel understand that they are the ones causing the problems for the filastins. The filastins work on the farms producing the crops that are sold all over the world, and a boycott of Israel will cause them to be made unemployed and destitute

The farms that Zionist settlers stole from them ?