Boycott Israel

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is not mentioned on its web site. How is anyone to know?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Firing Bronx History Teacher Over Israel Criticism Chills Free Speech & Human Rights Advocacy — Palestine Legal

The Ethical Culture Fieldston School’s decision to fire Jewish high school history teacher JB Brager is the latest in a well-documented, nationwide campaign to censor and punish critics of Israel. Brager was fired last week after they made statements critical of Israel and Zionism.

palestinelegal.org

“There is a real Mccarthyite atmosphere when it comes to talking about Palestine,” said senior staff attorney Radhika Sainath, who together with co-counsel Jethro Eisenstein, is providing legal advice to Brager. “Teachers shouldn’t be scared of losing their jobs for criticizing Israel or simply teaching about Palestinian human rights. This is not an environment that’s conducive to learning.”

The Fieldston School is a private pre-K-12 school in the Bronx. According to its site, “the core of our educational program is the study and practice of ethics, which prepares us — and compels us — to take care of our world, ourselves, and each other.”

A letter signed by nearly 80 Jewish spiritual leaders calls on Fieldston to reinstate Brager, noting that “by firing Dr. Brager you send a strong message to your students — that dissent should be feared, that expressing one’s right to free speech has limitations, that differing opinions will not be tolerated, that there is one story of history that can be allowed, and there is one kind of Jewish person.”

 

[Hollie]

Israel is not mentioned on its web site. How is anyone to know?

I wouldn't expect you to know.

 

[Hollie]

 

[toastman]

Israel is not mentioned on its web site. How is anyone to know?

Wow. Did you watch the video ??? She uses ISRAELI technology for her site.

 

[Sixties Fan]

According to Alawi, even before the normalization agreement between Israel and Morocco, 50,000 Israelis visited Morocco every year. "Most of them came to visit relatives who live here, to visit their ancestors' cemeteries and tombs of the righteous. Now, with an official agreement and direct flights, our ambition is very great - I want and believe we will reach 200,000 Israelis every year."

And she doesn't want to limit it to Israelis whose ancestors lived in Morocco. "I also include Israelis of non-Moroccan descent. Those who do not know our country are going to fall in love with it. I want to offer Israelis several vacations instead of one vacation. When you visit Morocco, you have the opportunity to experience a number of very different styles of tourism. Beyond Jewish cultural and historical cities, I want to offer magical beaches, extensive ecotourism with huge and beautiful deserts, golf clubs, nightlife. We want to make you visit here again and again - not just once."

(full article online)

Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Right to Boycott: BDS and Your Civil Liberties

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Everybody is a terrorist to those fuckers.

It is part of their terrorist propaganda campaign.

 

[Hollie]

Everybody is a terrorist to those fuckers.

It is part of their terrorist propaganda campaign.

Is that what they tell you at the mosque?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Boston students reject Israeli training of campus cops

Lobby fails to stop boycott campaigns across US.

electronicintifada.net

Students at Tufts University in Boston have voted in favor of ending all foreign military training of the college’s police department.

Their referendum is just the latest in a recent series of victorious student campaigns in support of Palestinian rights around the country.

Members of Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and more than 40 allied campus groups launched the referendum campaign after documents revealed that Tufts’ police chief attended a “counter-terrorism seminar” in Israel, funded by the Anti-Defamation League.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: “Counter-Terrorism Seminar”
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well I guess that it is a good thing the SJP at Tufts University does not control law enforcement training.

Members of Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and more than 40 allied campus groups launched the referendum campaign after documents revealed that Tufts’ police chief attended a “counter-terrorism seminar” in Israel, funded by the Anti-Defamation League.

(COMMENT)

But what is a bit disturbing is the idea that there is such a thing as: "Palestinian rights around the country" There is simply NO SUCH THING... Anyone how thinks there is, needs to go back and repeat Junior High School Civics.

In general, if you are legally standing on American soil or aboard a US Flag Carrier, you enjoy the very same civil rights and associated protections as does everyone else.

When they say: "Their referendum is just the latest in a recent series of victorious student campaigns in support of Palestinian rights around the country: they are very much mistaken. There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights. The last time I checked, Boston was still in the United States of America.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: “Counter-Terrorism Seminar”
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well I guess that it is a good thing the SJP at Tufts University does not control law enforcement training.

Members of Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and more than 40 allied campus groups launched the referendum campaign after documents revealed that Tufts’ police chief attended a “counter-terrorism seminar” in Israel, funded by the Anti-Defamation League.

(COMMENT)

But what is a bit disturbing is the idea that there is such a thing as: "Palestinian rights around the country" There is simply NO SUCH THING... Anyone how thinks there is, needs to go back and repeat Junior High School Civics.

In general, if you are legally standing on American soil or aboard a US Flag Carrier, you enjoy the very same civil rights and associated protections as does everyone else.

When they say: "Their referendum is just the latest in a recent series of victorious student campaigns in support of Palestinian rights around the country: they are very much mistaken. There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights. The last time I checked, Boston was still in the United States of America.

Most Respectfully,
R

There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights.

And everyone is supposed to have equal rights.

Palestinians don't. But every victory is a step closer.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: Civil Rights and Protections under the Law
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Oh you are so full of crap...

There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights.

And everyone is supposed to have equal rights.

Palestinians don't. But every victory is a step closer.

(COMMENT)

1. Are you babbling about Palestinian-Americans in the US?
2. Are you talking about Arab-Palestinians (lawfully) in the US?
3. Are you talking about Arab-Palestinians elsewhere in the world?

The first two have the same nearly the protections civil rights and protections under the law and the US (less those thing applicable to American Citizens).

As far as I know, the Arab-Palestinians elsewhere in the world, specifically those in particular to the adjacent territories [most often in the West Bank (including Jerusalem) and the Gaza Strip] (not including Israeli Citizens) come under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR), the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), and the Customary and International Humanitarian Law (C&IHL); as well as the other Core International Human Rights Instruments.

(VICTORIES)

To the best of my knowledge, the Arab Palestinians of the territories adjacent to Israel have not had a campaign victory since the accession of General Assembly Resolution 2200A (XXI) over a half-century ago.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: “Counter-Terrorism Seminar”
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well I guess that it is a good thing the SJP at Tufts University does not control law enforcement training.

Members of Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and more than 40 allied campus groups launched the referendum campaign after documents revealed that Tufts’ police chief attended a “counter-terrorism seminar” in Israel, funded by the Anti-Defamation League.

(COMMENT)

But what is a bit disturbing is the idea that there is such a thing as: "Palestinian rights around the country" There is simply NO SUCH THING... Anyone how thinks there is, needs to go back and repeat Junior High School Civics.

In general, if you are legally standing on American soil or aboard a US Flag Carrier, you enjoy the very same civil rights and associated protections as does everyone else.

When they say: "Their referendum is just the latest in a recent series of victorious student campaigns in support of Palestinian rights around the country: they are very much mistaken. There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights. The last time I checked, Boston was still in the United States of America.

Most Respectfully,
R

There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights.

And everyone is supposed to have equal rights.

Palestinians don't. But every victory is a step closer.

Who is ‘everyone’ you claim is supposed to have equal rights? Why don’t you read the Hamas Charter and lecture us further about the human rights. Can you identify some reading material about human rights afforded by Islamic theocracies?

What victories, (human rights victories or other, unnamed victories), have the Pals achieved? What victories have Islamic terrorists won?

link?

 

[Likkmee]

How can one boycott something that doesn't exist ?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Boycott Israel
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well, that is one of the Great Paradoxes of the Arab Palestinians in modern times.

How can one boycott something that doesn't exist ?

(COMMENT)

Our pro-Palestinian friends have selective blindness and comprehension.

"Palestine" as defined by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), extends "from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit." FATAH claims; "The 1967 border, which is defined as the 1949 Armistice Line along with all legal modification thereto up to June 4th 1967, is the internationally-recognized border between Israel and the occupied State of Palestine. A basic principle of international law is that no state may acquire territory by force. Israel has no valid claim to any part of the territory it occupied in 1967. The international community does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over any part of the occupied State of Palestine, including East Jerusalem."

You will notice that the Negotiation Affairs Department (NAD) makes two broad claims here:

◈ The Borders are defined by the 1949 Armistice Line.​

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✦ There are three great questions here:​

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✧ Do the Armistice Agreements, signed by military representatives, actually set the border?​

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※ Issue ONE: The Armistice was Arrangements between Israel and Jordan - AND NOT - between Israel and any Arab Palestinian faction.​

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※ Issue TWO: Article VI(9) states that: The Armistice Demarcation Lines defined in articles V and VI of this Agreement are agreed upon by the Parties without prejudice to future territorial settlements or boundary lines or to claims of either Party relating thereto.​

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※ Issue THREE: Article XII(2) has a passage that reads: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved," The peaceful settlement was the consumption of the ◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) wherein Article 3(2) established the "the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Jordan and Israel, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967."​

◈ The international law is that no state may acquire territory by force.​

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✦ Does the Law actually say that?​

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✧ What is meant by "acquire territory by force?"​

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※ Issue FOUR: "By Force" implies the "Act of Aggression" (Article 8 bis, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court).​

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◇ An “Act of Aggression” means the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, with the territorial integrity or the political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations.​

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※ Issue FIVE: The West Bank was not sovereignty with territorial integrity or political independence of the Arab Palestinians in 1967. It had been Annexed by Jordan in 1950. The Arab Palestinians were granted Jordanian citizenship.​

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◇ This means that the border between Israel and Jordan is the Jordan River. The Jordan River is NOT a border between Jordan and the West Bank. Jordan abandon the West Bank and authority over Jerusalem on the last day of July 1988. This effectively placed the territory in the hands of the Israelis until the Oslo Accords instituted Area "A" (full civil and security control by the Palestinian Authority), Area "B" (Palestinian civil control and joint Israeli-Palestinian security control), and Area "C" (full Israeli civil and security control).​

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I hope this thumbnail outline helps people to understand just a few of the issues in the contemporary Question of Palestine.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

RE: Boycott Israel
SUBTOPIC: “Counter-Terrorism Seminar”
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Well I guess that it is a good thing the SJP at Tufts University does not control law enforcement training.

Members of Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and more than 40 allied campus groups launched the referendum campaign after documents revealed that Tufts’ police chief attended a “counter-terrorism seminar” in Israel, funded by the Anti-Defamation League.

(COMMENT)

But what is a bit disturbing is the idea that there is such a thing as: "Palestinian rights around the country" There is simply NO SUCH THING... Anyone how thinks there is, needs to go back and repeat Junior High School Civics.

In general, if you are legally standing on American soil or aboard a US Flag Carrier, you enjoy the very same civil rights and associated protections as does everyone else.

When they say: "Their referendum is just the latest in a recent series of victorious student campaigns in support of Palestinian rights around the country: they are very much mistaken. There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights. The last time I checked, Boston was still in the United States of America.

Most Respectfully,
R

There is no such thing as Palestinian Rights in America. There are only US Rights.

And everyone is supposed to have equal rights.

Palestinians don't. But every victory is a step closer.

What are these victories you are speaking of ? Palestinians and their supporters have failed in every way possible.

They failed with conventional warfare, they failed with two intifada’s , they failed with online propaganda and they are currently failing with BDS.