Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[MayorQuimby]

As of right this minute it does.

What? That's not right.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes there is abuse of the law mainly by Asians.

So, you're an idiot? Is that the situation?

 

[Unkotare]

What? That's not right.

That's the current reality.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A foreign tourist whose wife gives birth in America or diplomat doesnt create citizen. The baby is a citizen of his parents country

Yes, they do. Anyone born in the US is a US citizen, unless their parents are assigned here as diplomats by the home country.

 

[Concerned American]

Oh, so you guys swore an oath, as long as they didn't disagree, eh. Not much on oaths, eh. Or is it just you?

Your partisan misinterpretation of the constitution doesn't hold any water six. After your multiple blatant attacks on the constitution and what THE SCOTUS has determined, you are the last person to be questioning someone else's oath. You have gone so far as putting yourself above the SCOTUS in this thread. Take it down the road anti-American POS.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Your partisan misinterpretation of the constitution doesn't hold any water six. After your multiple blatant attacks on the constitution and what THE SCOTUS has determined, you are the last person to be questioning someone else's oath. You have gone so far as putting yourself above the SCOTUS in this thread. Take down the road anti-American POS.

Remember this applies to you MAGA ***** too. Unless your parents are certified citizens by Act, you ***** are illegals.

 

[Concerned American]

Remember this applies to you MAGA ***** too. Unless your parents are certified citizens by Act, you ***** are illegals.

What is your status? Would ICE like to talk to you? I have an AMERICAN birth certificate--do you?

 

[JohnDB]

Remember this applies to you MAGA ***** too. Unless your parents are certified citizens by Act, you ***** are illegals.

Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the ramifications this law will create....

Because one party or another or even an agency will abuse this law somehow.

 

[toobfreak]

Your partisan misinterpretation of the constitution doesn't hold any water six. After your multiple blatant attacks on the constitution and what THE SCOTUS has determined, you are the last person to be questioning someone else's oath. You have gone so far as putting yourself above the SCOTUS in this thread. Take it down the road anti-American POS.

Well you see CA, we really need to look at the big picture here. We have three actors in this play:

• The Sovereign United States and all its people.
• A foreign country and its people.
• An apparent hefty drug trade.

Now, the Left are right, these idiots in high power speed boats 1500 miles out in the middle of the Carribean have rights. They are human beings cruising along not bothering anybody. ITMT, what would it cost to house 85 prisoners for 15 years feeding and taking care of them as millions of dollars are spent in hour after hour of legal testimony? And you know every one of them would be put up at a NY swank hotel rather than at Alligator Alcatraz.

ITMT, I understand that 80,000 or more people die a year taking stuff like this brought in from other countries like Mexico, China and Venezuela, but what I find interesting is that:

• When it comes to these certainly dubious characters running these drug boats up from South America, the Left extend their legal concern 99% FOR the illegals with practically no consideration for Americans hurt by their trade.
• But when it came to anyone even remotely near the Capitol on J6 of interest that they could connect in any way, the same Left extended their legal concern 99% AGAINST anyone charged! Sedition! Insurrection! Throw them in a dungeon and violate their every right even if they were just a journalist standing outside covering the event!

Where was the concern for personal rights then? At least back five years ago, we were dealing with Americans, fighting for what they thought was right, not just trying to bring kilos of crack cocaine into the country.

What about that 99% wiggle room?

• The Left would spare no expense spending millions of public dollars and years to defend every last boatman to the fullest extent of his rights!
  
• Trump took the other, opposite path, that of least time, expense and trouble: he just dropped a bomb on them and said: 'The USA is watching, and, oh no you don't!'

He put America first. Same with the whole question of aliens visiting our country only to have kids then raise them to be hostile to the country their being considered lawful to run for president. These people are not Americans. To declare that anyone less than a natural born child of at least one true American is still an American anyway and can even run for President is the stupidest idea that only a self-destructive society could have or planted there by someone trying for same.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What is your status? Would ICE like to talk to you? I have an AMERICAN birth certificate--do you?

But now that birth certificate just certies birth, not citizenship. Your parents will have to be certified legal citizens. Just being born here from people who were here is no guarantee of citizenship. Oopsie.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yes, they do. Anyone born in the US is a US citizen, unless their parents are assigned here as diplomats by the home country.

Except native Americans and foreign troops as the Amendment was written. Excluding Native Americans is pretty solid evidence the Amendment wasn't aimed at non-citizens even if born inside the bounds of the United States.

 

[Concerned American]

But now that birth certificate just certies birth, not citizenship. Your parents will have to be certified legal citizens. Just being born here from people who were here is no guarantee of citizenship. Oopsie.

Keep grasping at the hysteria, LOL, the only people who are promoting that line of garbage are those that are worried about their illegal status. I notice you didn't respond to the question. Hmmmm.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Except native Americans and foreign troops as the Amendment was written. Excluding Native Americans is pretty solid evidence the Amendment wasn't aimed at non-citizens even if born inside the bounds of the United States.

At the time of the 14th, Native American tribes living on a reservation were deemed (through treaty) sovereign nations, which is why they were excluded.

WW

 

[Zincwarrior]

Keep grasping at the hysteria, LOL, the only people who are promoting that line of garbage are those that are worried about their illegal status. I notice you didn't respond to the question. Hmmmm.

I am a Texan with people in Texas before Texas decided to annex the United State.

 

[Concerned American]

I am a Texan with people in Texas before Texas decided to annex the United State.

Still didn't answer the question.

 

[Blaster]

Get rid of birthright citizenship.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Still didn't answer the question.

Logic is not your strong suit I guess.

 

[Concerned American]

Logic is not your strong suit I guess.

Avoiding questions certainly is yours.

 

[AZrailwhale]

At the time of the 14th, Native American tribes living on a reservation were deemed (through treaty) sovereign nations, which is why they were excluded.

WW

And citizens of other sovereign countries should be excluded as well. That's the takeaway. If Indians were excluded because they were citizens of other sovereign nations, aliens should have the same yardstick applied.

 

[WorldWatcher]

And citizens of other sovereign countries should be excluded as well. That's the takeaway. If Indians were excluded because they were citizens of other sovereign nations, aliens should have the same yardstick applied.

Indians (born on the reservations) weren't excluded simply because they were citizens of other sovereign nations, they were excluded because of the treaties.

WW