Biden's Dumpster Fire of a SOTU Speech

[JoeB131]

Actually, it’s even worse than that: in government, a ”cut” is srill an increase….just not as high as the previous year. So if one’s department budget was increased by 6% one year and then just a 4% increase the next, the employees call it a cut.

Because that is a defacto cut when factoring in inflation AND increased demand of services.

Social Security and Medicare are going to increase because more people are retiring than entering the workforce.

But since you are a fiscal conservative and all, maybe all your fellow conservatives should off yourselves at age 65 to not put strain on the budget.

 

[Lastamender]

Debt is meaningless.

In fact, under Rauner, IL's last REpublican governor, the state lost it's credit rating. Thanks to Governor Pritzker, we got it back.

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Then the deeper in debt you go increases your credit rating. Another wonderful idea. When are going to stop limiting failure to Republicans? Democrats fail all the time. now is one of those times. This country has turned to shit in the shortest time possible. It has been done deliberately and you defend the assholes.

 

[jotathought]

Debt is meaningless.

In fact, under Rauner, IL's last REpublican governor, the state lost it's credit rating. Thanks to Governor Pritzker, we got it back.

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www.illinois.gov

Illinois' fiscal collapse wasn't the result of a Republican governor .. in fact, it was the result of decades of budget shenanigans used to cover up their spending and spending priorities with an emphasis on special interests. Politicians were using various schemes to make the budget appear to be balanced without actually reforming the underlying out-of-control costs. Under Governor Pat Quinn, for example, the budget appeared to be balanced, and lawmakers didn't have to mitigate spending problems with pensions, healthcare and government subsidies.

Nice try though

 

[Concerned American]

Illinois' fiscal collapse wasn't the result of a Republican governor .. in fact, it was the result of decades of budget shenanigans used to cover up their spending and spending priorities with an emphasis on special interests. Politicians were using various schemes to make the budget appear to be balanced without actually reforming the underlying out-of-control costs. Under Governor Pat Quinn, for example, the budget appeared to be balanced, and lawmakers didn't have to mitigate spending problems with pensions, healthcare and government subsidies.

Nice try though

And we'll just mention Blagojovich, because we know that is a sore subject.

 

[konradv]

In Government a freeze is a cut.
The End.

In English it isn't. You're falling for the statist line.

 

[Lisa558]

In English it isn't. You're falling for the statist line.

Nope. In government, when your 6% departmental increase one year is a 4% increase the next, the employees say that “their budget was cut.” NO, their budget was increased.

In the real world - I.e., private industry - companies that are not bringing in as much as they are spending slash budgets and terminate positions. They sure don’t INCREASE the spending.

 

[SweetTea]

Actually, the higher the percentage of Republican voters, the poorer a state tends to be.

Mississippi, - 58% for Trump
Louisiana, - 58.5
New Mexico, 43.5
Arkansas, 62%
West Virginia, - 69
Alabama, -62
Kentucky, 62
South Carolina, 55
Oklahoma. 65

The poorer a state is, the more Red it is. Funny how that works, Cleetus.

But I'm sure your double wide is very nice.

You still don’t get it do you? The poorer a person is, the more likely they are to vote Democrat and the numbers aren’t even close. We all know that. Many Southern states have a higher number welfare recipients per capita, the vast majority being Democrats. The average salaries for those making more money in those states(overwhelmingly Republican) is not enough to account for those dragging on the system. In other words, by all accounts, it is poor Democrats that are bringing down the state.

Blue states like CA have the same problem, and in fact, have a high per capita percentage of Democrat, welfare recipients. The difference is that the salaries for the higher income earners are considerably more, thus making up the gap. Keep in mind, they must make more because the cost of living is much more, so despite many having average higher incomes than many in the South, the standard of living for higher income earners in the South is better. You would know this if you traveled to higher than average income areas of the South.

I don’t expect you to understand. It is way too complex for you and it doesn’t fit your narrative. It requires some actual thought, not some regurgitation of propaganda you keep hearing on the nightly news.

Welfare Recipients by State 2023

 

[ColonelAngus]

He should have explained to the American people how it is good for us to send $100 billion of our taxpayer money to murder thousands of Russians and Ukrainians.

 

[konradv]

Nope. In government, when your 6% departmental increase one year is a 4% increase the next, the employees say that “their budget was cut.” NO, their budget was increased.

In the real world - I.e., private industry - companies that are not bringing in as much as they are spending slash budgets and terminate positions. They sure don’t INCREASE the spending.

Just because someone else misuses English, it doesn't excuse you.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Just because someone else misuses English, it doesn't excuse you.

So if your boss comes to you tomorrow and tells you that he's going to freeze your pay, you'd be fine with that and would definitely argue that your pay wasn't cut?

MMkay.

 

[Lisa558]

So if your boss comes to you tomorrow and tells you that he's going to freeze your pay, you'd be fine with that and would definitely argue that your pay wasn't cut?

MMkay.

Of course your pay wasn‘t a cut. Where I worked in 2009, everyone’s pay was frozen that year given the Great Recession and difficult times for my company. NOBODY said their salary was cut. We were just glad we had jobs.

 

[JoeB131]

You still don’t get it do you? The poorer a person is, the more likely they are to vote Democrat and the numbers aren’t even close. We all know that. Many Southern states have a higher number welfare recipients per capita, the vast majority being Democrats. The average salaries for those making more money in those states(overwhelmingly Republican) is not enough to account for those dragging on the system. In other words, by all accounts, it is poor Democrats that are bringing down the state.

That's really not true, either.

Hey, check this out. Trump won the under 40K bracket. He won all the brackets below 60K. Biden excelled in brackets 60K and above.

 

[Billiejeens]

In English it isn't. You're falling for the statist line.

Nope

 

[Billiejeens]

Because that is a defacto cut when factoring in inflation AND increased demand of services.

Social Security and Medicare are going to increase because more people are retiring than entering the workforce.

But since you are a fiscal conservative and all, maybe all your fellow conservatives should off yourselves at age 65 to not put strain on the budget.

Be happy to off everyone of your ilk.

 

[JoeB131]

Be happy to off everyone of your ilk.

You are going to stain your keyboard like that...

 

[SweetTea]

That's really not true, either.

Hey, check this out. Trump won the under 40K bracket. He won all the brackets below 60K. Biden excelled in brackets 60K and above.

Wait a minute. Are we talking about Trump vs Biden or Republicans vs Democrats? Indepedents are including in this mix and many of them didn’t like Trump.(fell for the MSM propaganda) What I said to you was that the lowest income individuals in the country vote heavily Democratic. That is an absolute fact.

 

[struth]

Because that is a defacto cut when factoring in inflation AND increased demand of services.

Social Security and Medicare are going to increase because more people are retiring than entering the workforce.

But since you are a fiscal conservative and all, maybe all your fellow conservatives should off yourselves at age 65 to not put strain on the budget.

Maybe you and your fellow dembots should stop being so lazy and actually get a job and be productive members of society instead of a drain on our system

 

[Concerned American]

Indepedents are including in this mix and many of them didn’t like Trump.(fell for the MSM propaganda)

Impediments are including in this mix and many of them didn’t like Trump.(fell for the MSM propaganda) There, I fixed it for you.

 

[SweetTea]

Impediments are including in this mix and many of them didn’t like Trump.(fell for the MSM propaganda) There, I fixed it for you.

Yeah, that too.

 

[JoeB131]

Wait a minute. Are we talking about Trump vs Biden or Republicans vs Democrats? Indepedents are including in this mix and many of them didn’t like Trump.(fell for the MSM propaganda) What I said to you was that the lowest income individuals in the country vote heavily Democratic. That is an absolute fact.

It's an absolute fact... Poor people are just as likely to vote Republican as Democrats.

Even the bottom, 25K and below, voted for Trump by 44%

The only people falling for Propaganda are all the inbred morons who watch Fox News and think their lives are better when Billionaire get tax cuts.