Biden says he'll raise all the money needed by taxing anyone making over $400,000 a year.

There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.


Basically what you are saying is that the 'Free Enterprise' system can not survive without slave wages.

The same thing was said about union wages and industry regulations, yet the 'free enterprise' system adapted and in many cases became more profitable.

Raise the wages and let the industry adapt and if it can't let it die. That's 'Free Enterprise'!
Raise wages to the point of killing entire industries.

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure that there'd be a whole lot more businesses if slavery was legal.

So yes, if a business can not meet standards of decency and remain viable, it should close.

Do you really think that the entire restaurant industry will go under if they raised wages? Seriously?

They would adapt, like every other industry has.
So yes, if a business can not meet standards of decency and remain viable, it should close.

Who appointed you Czar of Decency?

You post claptrap that shows you have no clue how business works.

I'm sure that argument was made by the slavers before the civil war.
You would know............you are the party of slave owners. Hell, your VP candidate's family owned a few hundred of them.

Digging up shit from 200 years ago because you can't win an argument is lame bullshit!
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.


Basically what you are saying is that the 'Free Enterprise' system can not survive without slave wages.

The same thing was said about union wages and industry regulations, yet the 'free enterprise' system adapted and in many cases became more profitable.

Raise the wages and let the industry adapt and if it can't let it die. That's 'Free Enterprise'!
Raise wages to the point of killing entire industries.

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure that there'd be a whole lot more businesses if slavery was legal.

So yes, if a business can not meet standards of decency and remain viable, it should close.

Do you really think that the entire restaurant industry will go under if they raised wages? Seriously?

They would adapt, like every other industry has.
So yes, if a business can not meet standards of decency and remain viable, it should close.

Who appointed you Czar of Decency?

You post claptrap that shows you have no clue how business works.

I'm sure that argument was made by the slavers before the civil war.
You would know............you are the party of slave owners. Hell, your VP candidate's family owned a few hundred of them.

Digging up shit from 200 years ago because you can't win an argument is lame bullshit!

Who brought up shit from 200 years ago?

Oh yeah, you..............right here:

I'm sure that argument was made by the slavers before the civil war.

Thanks for pointing out you can't win an argument. :iyfyus.jpg:
 
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The whole presupposition of a "Green New Deal" is bullshit nonsense.
When Biden is forced to recycle Alexandria Ocasio Cortez crap it's a no go from the start.
 
The whole presupposition of a "Green New Deal" is bullshit nonsense.
When Biden is forced to recycle Alexandria Ocasio Cortez crap it's a no go from the start.
Almost Occasionally Coherent is leading Crazy Joe around by the nose.
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.


Basically what you are saying is that the 'Free Enterprise' system can not survive without slave wages.

The same thing was said about union wages and industry regulations, yet the 'free enterprise' system adapted and in many cases became more profitable.

Raise the wages and let the industry adapt and if it can't let it die. That's 'Free Enterprise'!
Artificially raising wages is NOT free enterprise, Richard!

If left to 'free enterprise' more than half the population would be destitute.
Free Enterprise and Capitalism have created more wealth for more people than any other economic system on this planet, Richard! If you REALLY are concerned with populations that are "destitute" then you should be here railing against the evils of communism and socialism!
 
Has Daniel ever really answered a question put to him in this string? With something that even vaguely resembled a cogent thought?
Nothing the clueless and Causeless right wing can understand, apparently.
Does anyone understand what you post, Daniel? Do YOU? Most of the time, quite frankly, it's gibberish. You remind me of students I've had that thought if they filled their work with big words and confused prose that it would obscure the fact that they didn't know what they were talking about.
What is obvious is that right wingers are clueless and Causeless about economics and only have red herrings and straw men for their arguments.

Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay their fair capital share of the tax burden. It should be easy for anyone but right wingers to understand.
Ah, Daniel? What are you referring to when you talk about "fair capital share"? Do you know what the term capital share denotes?
I am not one who only has diversion instead of valid arguments. Answer the question.

According to some studies the minimum wage should be eighteen dollars an hour after accounting for inflation.
So you don't have a clue what the term capital share means...do you? LOL Why do you do that? You're just talking nonsense and it's obvious you don't know what most of the terms you use mean!
yes, i do. nuances dear right winger. capital share and tax burden are not unrelated in the statement. context must mean something. but, then you are a right winger who loves to sacrifice the End to the Means.
Capital share has nothing to do with tax burden. As usual you're talking out of your ass and looking like a complete buffoon in the process! What's your education level? I'm guessing a GED?
You simply understand nothing, how typical of the right wing.
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
 
..they already pay MORE than their share
MORE taxes is going to kill the US
The Poor don't pay enough in taxes and need their wages raised.
the poor are stupid and deserve NOTHING
You Are the Problem, right wingers.
.....give them more $$ and they still will be poor because they make poor decisions..you can't fix stupid
How nanny-statist of you. Why do you care as long as they circulate capital under capitalism and pay more in taxes?

In 2008, Biden said the number was $270k and under would not see higher taxes. What he and his running mate did not tell you is that if you are a contractor (eg a plumber) and you gross more than the threshold, you will see an increase in taxes...... before you pay your business overhead. If I’m wrong, show me where he makes a clear delineation.
The plumber simply needs to learn more about tax shelters, like the Richest.

Tax shelters? A plumber grossing $400k needs to pay for capital equipment, business insurance, variable operating and business costs, employee/subcontractor salaries - all BEFORE he takes home a salary. Left wing and liberals know this but they want to stick it to small businesses and independent contractors by demonizing them as “the wealthy”.
He also gets to expense those costs to lower his tax burden.
 
This is who Right Wingers prefer to help out with our tax dollars by keeping wages low and not increasing the minimum wage:
From 1978 to 2018, inflation-adjusted compensation based on realized stock options of the top CEOs increased 940.3%. The increase was more than 25–33% greater than stock market growth (depending on which stock market index is used) and substantially greater than the painfully slow 11.9% growth in a typical worker’s annual compensation over the same period. Measured using the value of stock options granted, CEO compensation rose 1,007.5% from 1978 to 2018.

Right wingers simply prefer to "hate on the Poor" so they can crony up to the Rich.
Here's a question for you, Daniel...did income inequality increase or decrease during the Obama two terms?
The Income Gap Began To Narrow Under Obama

It would have narrowed more, but the right wing had nothing but Repeal for those shovel ready jobs. Along with trying to repeal healthcare reform.

Vote blue not red!
As for "shovel ready jobs"? Why would you even bring those up, Daniel? One of the more embarrassing moments of the Obama Administration's attempts to revive the economy was how badly their stimulus plan failed to create the hundreds of thousands of shovel ready jobs that they'd promised they'd deliver! Or have you forgotten Barry sheepishly admitting that the shovel ready jobs weren't as shovel ready as they thought?
The right wing had no Thing but repeal for those shovel ready jobs. They don't care about the working class, only the Richest.

Obama: "No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Projects"
Mr. Obama is acknowledging that, despite his campaign promises, "there's no such thing as shovel-ready projects."
Nevertheless, the president said in the interview that he comes across as "the same old tax-and-spend Democrat."
When the president campaigned for the stimulus package at the start of his presidency, he and others in his administration repeatedly insisted the investments would go to "shovel-ready" projects -- projects that would put people to work right away
Because the right wing had nothing but repeal not any better solutions at lower cost.

"It may be that regardless of what happens after this election, they feel more responsible, either because they didn't do as well as they anticipated, and so the strategy of just saying no to everything and sitting on the sidelines and throwing bombs didn't work for them," he said. "Or they did reasonably well, in which case the American people are going to be looking to them to offer serious proposals and work with me in a serious way."
 
I would suggest reading this. It's by Thomas Sowell. He understands the topic that you so obviously don't, Daniel!
The left has a lawful solution for that too. It is termed and styled, equal protection of the laws regarding employment at the will of either person in our at-will employment States, for unemployment compensation. A simple solution to simple poverty. Just another "war" the right wing was clueless and Causeless about how to win.
And there it is, the inevitable list of words that you end up posting every single time. We've been down this road before and I've gotten you to admit this, so let's just cut to the chase. The bottom line is, you want to be paid $15/hour to stay in your mom's basement smoking pot.

Why do you care, right winger, in Any at-will employment State?
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.

For 1.7 million people you want to cost employers nearly $900 BILLION dollars?
FACTS which you seemingly abhore!
Raise 1.7 million to $15 means EVERYONE of the 80 million that make above minimum will WANT $15.00.
That means 80 million times $5/hour (right now these 80 million make at least$10..) ($15.00 raised to from $10.00) so that would mean in
one year employers of the 80 million will have 2,000 hours X $5.00 X 80 million equals $800 billion! Then on top of that the employers have to pay 6.2% payroll taxes another $50 billion just in payroll taxes.So tell me what will these employers do ... raise their prices? And guess who will pay?
YOU!
numberof minimwageworkers.png
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.

For 1.7 million people you want to cost employers nearly $900 BILLION dollars?
FACTS which you seemingly abhore!
Raise 1.7 million to $15 means EVERYONE of the 80 million that make above minimum will WANT $15.00.
That means 80 million times $5/hour (right now these 80 million make at least$10..) ($15.00 raised to from $10.00) so that would mean in
one year employers of the 80 million will have 2,000 hours X $5.00 X 80 million equals $800 billion! Then on top of that the employers have to pay 6.2% payroll taxes another $50 billion just in payroll taxes.So tell me what will these employers do ... raise their prices? And guess who will pay?
YOU!
View attachment 380811
Yet, Gravity Payments had no problem with an approximately thirty-five dollar an hour "minimum wage".

The company received media attention in 2015 when CEO Dan Price announced that all employees would receive a minimum salary of $70,000.--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_Payments#cite_note-nytimes-1
 
I would suggest reading this. It's by Thomas Sowell. He understands the topic that you so obviously don't, Daniel!
The left has a lawful solution for that too. It is termed and styled, equal protection of the laws regarding employment at the will of either person in our at-will employment States, for unemployment compensation. A simple solution to simple poverty. Just another "war" the right wing was clueless and Causeless about how to win.
And there it is, the inevitable list of words that you end up posting every single time. We've been down this road before and I've gotten you to admit this, so let's just cut to the chase. The bottom line is, you want to be paid $15/hour to stay in your mom's basement smoking pot.

Why do you care, right winger, in Any at-will employment State?
I care because I don't want to work to pay you to not work, when you're perfectly capable of working but choose not to. I thought that was obvious.
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


minimumwages.png
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. Good let's have increases everywhere.
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. Good let's have increases everywhere.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s? WTF, have you had a job since the 80's?
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. Good let's have increases everywhere.
Apparently, you believe they can just be mandated without any repercussions. Is that true?

Hint, when labor is the majority of a company's costs, you can't sharply increase it without one or more things happening:

1. Prices go up, a lot.
2. Hours are cut, a lot. And since prices have gone up (see point one), people have a harder time getting by.
3. Jobs that were full time become part time without benefits. And since prices have gone up (see point one), people have a harder time getting by.
4. Jobs are simply cut, putting more people on unemployment and welfare. And since prices have gone up (see point one), people have a harder time getting by.
5. Machines are brought in to do the jobs people used to do.

These things are inevitable. Which of them are you willing to tolerate?
 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. Good let's have increases everywhere.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s? WTF, have you had a job since the 80's?

In the words of Tonto:

"Is this horse stupid or is he just pretending to be stupid"?

 
There will be no problem since he can promise that GDP growth will be 5% a year...


So how does Biden pay for it...

Reverse the Trump tax cut for rich and corporates... $1.5 trillion
Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion.

Borrow infrastruction expense and pay off over increased production (Capital expendeture)... $1.3 trillion

Education pays off in increased tax revenue. It also drives an economy...

Housing plan will also drive economic activity in the construction market... Homeless are expensive cost on a city...

Combating opioid epidemic: Borrow the money, Cutting funding to poor will just make this worse...


This is all better than ploughing the money in to hole in the dessert. $2.4 billion.
.


You wrote: Increase tax on Rich (> 400k per year)... $1 Trillion How do you figure that? YOU have NOTHING to prove your statement. JUST a guess... I ON the other hand have a link... follow the link!

the government estimates that raising the tax rate on this small group will raise about $600 billion in new revenues over the next decade.
The Poor are a larger group. Raise the minimum wage until the Poor pay enough in taxes.
Here is a simple example of what raising the minimum wage means IF YOU owned a restaurant.
Note the 2nd largest % of revenue (gross sales) is salaries and wages..@ 15.1%
So if the salaries/wages go up just 5%... there is no profit...therefore no business!
View attachment 379079

So? Increase the cost of the meals or do you think that people will stop eating at restaurants?
You are the owner of a restaurant. You have choice. Raise food prices or do this?
Make the decision because the chances of keeping 100% of your regular customers if you raise the prices 25% to cover the cost of minimum wage. Or this. Which would you prefer?
View attachment 379197

Let’s use McDonald’s as an example. The number of employees per shift is about 12 for 2 shifts that is 24. Let say all of them makes $12 increase to $13/hour.
One employee 8 hours will get from $96 to $104. that is $8. difference per day, for 24 that is $192. a day total increase.

You take hamburger, French fries, soda, bigmac,etc etc etc across the board increase to $0.20 each. How difficult is that to earn or to make up $192? Are you telling me customers will stop coming to McDonald’s with those increases?

On top of that a lots of these employees has been there for years so they make more than the MW.
That's a great example of your math skills, Charwin...the only problem is that the left isn't looking for a one dollar increase in the minimum wage...they're looking to almost double it. Crunch THOSE numbers!
By the way...the reaction from the fast food industry will be to cut staffing and go with kiosks and robots to try and keep labor costs from killing profits. That means fewer jobs for those that need entry level jobs the most! You can see this starting to happen already.
The minimum wage would be around eighteen dollars an hour if it had kept up with inflation.
But what is NOT mentioned by the biased MSM in support of a diminishing number i.e. people that work at minimum or less than minimum wage.
FACTS... Look below...% of people paid hourly was in 2010 (Under Obama...) 8% or over 4.361 million to 2018 (under Trump)..2.1% 1.71 million!
So you want to destroy wages for 81 million for just 1.71 million who work at minimum wage or less?


View attachment 380891
They also don't want to talk about all the other people who are going to get raises if we double the MW to 15/hour overnight. Approximately 60% of the American work force earns $20/hour or less. What do you think someone who spent years learning and honing a craft until he was earning almost 3 times the MW will do when all of a sudden he's earning just a few dollars more than a kid who walks in off the street with no skills whatsoever? No, you're not just going to have to pay 50 cents more for a Big Mac, you're going to have to pay a lot more for everything, because those workers will be demanding big raises or quitting.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s. Good let's have increases everywhere.

Salaries and wages have been stagnant since the 1980s? WTF, have you had a job since the 80's?

In the words of Tonto:

"Is this horse stupid or is he just pretending to be stupid"?


You had stated "Salaries and wages have been stagnant"...quit letting the horse do your thinking...dumbass.
 

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